Good question. I don't imagine that post-war London -- with the continued food rationing, etc. -- was a particularly pleasant place to live. If I recall correctly, Jimmy's father was a personnel supervisor/manager of some sort in an aircraft factory. If true, it would be interesting to know what type of planes his father's factory produced. Spitfires? Hurricanes? Etc.

A few observations: a) I'm fairly certain Presence has been outsold by TSRTS. (btw, also a double album -- 8.8m?) The Early Days/Later Days 3 to 1 ratio does indeed seem odd. c) As the Chase pointed out, PG is probably about 16X, and the overall numbers increase greatly if you count multi discs d) If each of these above factors are taken into account, then Zep probably still remains right up near/alongside the Stones in terms of sales Edited to add: I agree that both the Presence and TSRTS numbers seem a bit low

Great work, Tatty73 I'd be interested to know how many albums the Stones and Floyd have sold at this point. My (totally uneducated) guess would be maybe 210m and 230m respectively.

This is great

Try not to allow the sorry state of the human condition get you down, Slave. Try not to worry about what you can't control.

I do perceive a similarity.

Thanks so much for posting this. It's absolutely awesome -- and touching -- it may be the best thing I have seen posted here on the forum. I LOVE the artwork. I ADORE it. I'm going to buy some of these paintings.

Let's pray that's all he does

As jimjam said, the list goes on and on. Some of the older members here on the forum might be able to share their insights and tell you some great stories. When I think of U.S. politics and history in that year, I think of President Johnson's Great Society programs and our country's increasingly deep involvement in the Vietnam War (Johnson was under a lot of pressure).I think of the anti-Vietnam War protest movement, and the Civil Rights movement, and the Black power movement, and the women's liberation movement, all gaining strength. The pediatrician Dr. Spock's revolutionary and permissive methods for raising babies and children were very popular in the country. The next year -- 1968 -- stands out more in my mind; it was one of the most eventful and pivotal years in American (and music!!!) history.

Me, too. All the Stones fans I've known, dating back to high school, have respected Zeppelin and appreciated their music. I've also observed that many Stones fans are highly knowledgable about music in general. Several of their fans have told me that they view Zep and it's fanbase as being members of a "huge cult," albeit a benign one. It should be mentioned that serious Stones fans are keenly aware that Zep decisively surpassed "the world's greatest rock n roll band" during the 1970's, both in terms of album sales and concert attendances, and this has undoubtedly caused a tremendous amount of long-lingering resentment and jealously among some fans. I've only known a handful of Who fans, and some of them despised Zeppelin.

I agree -- these types of comments are uncalled for. I've known paralegals who were extraordinarily knowledgable about the law.

Genesis -- Foxtrot

Charles, thanks for posting this photo. I've never been to Nova Scotia, but I've explored some old forts in Ontario and Quebec and loved their history and atmosphere.

Genesis -- And Then There Were Three

Best wishes to Mrs. Walter!

Great post. You've reminded us of this thread's true purpose, and who we should all be remembering and honoring for their sacrifice. It's not my intention to derail this thread, but I wanted to mention a few things: a) The Polish intelligence services made initial progress in breaking German secret codes, including ULTRA, during the 1930's. Following the fall of Poland in 1939, Polish intelligence shared their code-breaking information with British intelligence, who then launched an ultimately successfully effort to crack ULTRA. Today, Americans tend to forget the huge and critical role played by Russia in defeating Germany during WW2. Russia suffered 40-50 times more fatalities than America did during the war. The Russians lost more lives in single battles (Stalingrad, the Kiev cauldron, etc.) than the Americans lost during the entire war. On D-Day, the Germans had roughly 75-80 percent of their armed might deployed against the Russians in the East, roughly 5 percent of their armed might deployed against the Western Allies in Italy; and roughly 15-20 percent of their armed might deployed against the Western Allies in France. c) Finally -- and I realize this may be controversial -- it's important to remember the tens of thousands of Boer women and children who died in British-run internment camps during the Boer War. (in South Africa)

How true. So beautiful and majestic. WOW is the right word.

Yes, this should have been a choice. I've known (at least) two people who were transformed into Zep fans by watching SIBLY and the Rain Song in TSRTS -- "Jimmy Page....electric guitar...."

Hi lipslikecherries, Everything is interesting to me, too. Your approach sounds perfect -- just read whatever you find most interesting or know the least about. I'm currently interested in early American history and the Jefferson-Hamilton debate. As a Virginian, I tend to be more partial and sympathetic to Jefferson, (I was born in Charlottesville, lol) and to his ideas and ideals. But at the same time, I highly respect Hamilton. He was extraordinarily brilliant and capable. More than a few European observers regarded Hamilton to be the greatest man of his age -- even greater than Napolean.

Archery? Tall ships? The market? Sounds like a great day.

Hi Layla. Welcome to the forum.

Lipslikecherries, which historical periods are you most interested in? The most deeply moving ending to any book that I've ever read was Dickens, Tale of Two Cities ....Sydney Carton holding the French girl's hand on the way to the guillotine, etc

I barely have time to read anymore, but the last book I read was H.P Lovecraft's "At The Mountains of Madness" which I enjoyed. I'm going to have some more free time soon, and I'm planning to read Tolstoy's "Anna Karenina."

Achilles Last Stand...but Tea For One is close.