Josh, as I’ve said, post dumb shit off of dumb right wing blogs. I would love for our state to separate from you just because. Again, how many times have you voted? What public service are you in? Have you ever done anything for anyone other then yourself? I have a sneaking suspicion you are a guy sitting in your basement talking trash. Get outside, exercise. Meet some people. I’m sorry you were not old enough to have seen Page and Plant. I’m sorry you can only post on stuff that you have not participated in. You obviously have a lot of growing to do as an individual. It’s okay little buddy.

That is funny coming from a guy sitting in Japan. You have no idea what states are doing what. Blue states have athletes, boxers, MMA, gang members, and people who create everything you use. I’ve seen the hilarious videos of the truckers. Are you dumb enough to think that people who don’t vote blue are not registered to carry a gun and don’t hunt? You are out of touch and out of your mind. Sit in your tea house talk shit. You couldn’t fight your way out of a wet paper bag.

I know what is front of my eyes. The states you show are not the population of the country. If we did away with the ridiculous system we are currently in, it would not run in your favor ever. And as I have said to you, I am a registered independent. How many times have you voted? We have a system that certainly helps your party. And I’m not even saying that we should do away with it. But the country is not predominantly conservative. That’s a fact. Again, hide behind your avatar, don’t let anyone know how old you are, don’t let anyone know what state you are in. That’s safe. Have some courage. All of the United States has something to be proud of. Certainly not one way thinkers who are not open to learning and growing from one another. You calling certain cities cesspools is just a funny weak saying from a weak person. Sitting on a computer talking about peoples heritage, and calling it a sick cesspool. You have not hit on any nerve, other then thinking you are a young, inexperienced kid trying to act like you have some knowledge that you do not possess. You can watch all the Joe Rogan, and Ben Shapiro you want to watch. Jordan Peterson the list goes on and on. How about having a civil discussion without stirring the pot. I will be the first to admit that I’m not right, and that I can look at things from another’s perspective. I’ve never seen you once get close to saying anything like that. Just so we are clear, there has never been any evidence of any widespread voter fraud other then some piece of shit saying so. If you are telling me that all of the people he hired, all of the offices that served him after they were hired conspired against him and it was a nation wide, world wide conspiracy? Then damn I guess I would have to check into it. But some dumb drunk lawyer sitting in some hotel lobby leaking hair dye and claiming that there was fraud doesn’t make it fraud. When the attorney General that he hired after having fired his previous AG says it is crap, then it is crap. When everyone he hired says it’s crap, except him? Well then it is crap. I would love to see any evidence that says otherwise. All we have had so far is him asking to find votes in GA, asking states to not certify, and trying to bully people into saying it is a fake election. The only widespread fraud has been from one side. Have a good night John.

You are funny as shit. What are using to post? Are you on your phone perhaps? A computer? Everything cool that you have by way of tech comes from Cali. All your shows, video games, computers were created right here. All the produce you eat, the wine you drink. What state are you from. Or what state do you reside in. We are all proud of where we come from. And we all have things we don’t like about it as well. What is the number one tourist state in our country? It’s Cali.

John, we were talking about if states started separating. As I explained to you earlier, 46% of California is Federally owned/operated. If for some insane reason states started to as you say “peacefully separate” all that is in California would come with it. Now as far as military members, that may be an entirely different thing. However being that I come from a military family, you are absolutely incorrect to assume that they are predominantly conservative. There are a ton of things that dictate what military members vote on and how they are identifying. Having a father that was in Vietnam, grandfather that was part of WW2, cousins that are active members of the military and California police, as well as Firemen. Reading some right wing blog about white military members doesn’t mean they are conservative. It also depends on what branch, of the military. Below is some data for you to consider, during the previous administration, the military started to heavily lean the other direction because of the actions of the that admin. I could be wrong, unlike you I won’t say that I’m right because things in life are subjective, and rather then trying to win an argument, I’m trying to learn something. I have a feeling that you are in your 20’s or early 30’s. https://www.thesoldiersproject.org/percentage-of-the-us-military-is-conservative/

I’ve spent a lot of time reading, listening to interviews of Trump. I’ve said it before, he was an entertaining character on shows such as The Howard Stern Show in the 1990’s and 2000’s. I personally never watched his game show that he had. I know his organization was sued for racist accusations in the 70’s, that doesn’t mean it was accurate. He settled on it. He has certainly done and said things that are on the margins, he also is a master at playing into peoples anger, victim hood and flirting with statements that would help to fuel divisions with people. Right before writing this I went on 10 different sites and read perceived racist remarks that he has made going back to the 1970’s. Some of them I personally didn’t find to be racist, some of them I feel were to cause a reaction, and some I just feel were ignorance. He isn’t a very well spoken man. He isn’t very eloquent, he doesn’t have a very good vocabulary. But that doesn’t mean he is an outright racist individual. I suppose I shouldn’t be the judge of that, just as the people who were offended and feel that he is racist. All politicians lie, that’s a fact. I’m not going to get into a back and forth on who lies more. You are clearly in one corner and there would not be anything that anyone could show in terms of evidence or facts that would change that. That’s cool as well. We only have a short time on the planet, people decide how they want to spend it. I’m going to try and read, learn, and grow, and change as I hope all others do as well. People on the side of trying to blow up our system, or wanting there to be a split in the country, wanting there to be a clear cut separation of our United States are absolutely on the wrong side. Be well Hummingbird. Hope you and yours have a great day.

Well Steven, you can talk all you want about the Red States prevailing in a Civil war. I see the funny pictures of the militias, I don’t think they are all that scary. It is crazy that you would even suggest that. Those words would have not been uttered prior to a couple years ago. We also didn’t mention that California is home to largest amount of active Military service members in the country as well as Nuclear facilities, as well as research facilities. For others to say that one group is responsible for all of the divisions and polarizations is just outrageous to me. But we can have civil conversations, and if others want to escalate them I’m good either way. The Fruits and Vegetables was a good one by the way.

It could be that. He has been impeached twice, he is being investigated by the 6th committee, I am pretty sure that Georgia is about to launch some charges as well. If I’m not mistaken the head of the FBI was hired by Trump. I know that a Federal Judge has to approve the search warrant. But from what I am reading, it has more to do with classified documents that he took with him. It could be that he did not know it was illegal to take such documents, and that this will really rally his base. Actually I have no doubt that it will. It could also lead to some other things, and maybe open the door for Desantis, and a few others. I’ve watched and read as much as possible on the 6th hearings, there have been some enlightening moments. But he reminds me of the Teflon Don. I would not be surprised for this to turn into something that helps him with his fans/cult. If in fact it was all a big nothing, and there are a ton of people totally complicate in this witch hunt, and it is totally a big nothing burger, well I hope that is shown to be the case. It’s amazing how polarizing he and his administration are and we’re, and how polarizing American Politics have become. No one believes anything anymore. Certainly there has always been a level of distrust. For him and his family, I hope that he isn’t guilty of anything that could ruin the rest of his and their lives. That wouldn’t be good for them, or any of us. If this is truly just a left witch hunt, I hope it is proven to be so. If it is truly illegal, and he has acted in an illegal manner and his actions prove to be so, I hope that his base will accept the outcome. We should all be allowed to have and see the truth. No matter where it leads. For him and his family, maybe having run and won the Presidency was too much. Or, maybe the entire world is out to get him. I simply don’t know.

Well, we are in new territory. It is certainly a terrible thing to happen to any person, and certainly a former President. I suppose we will have to wait on the outcome of the investigation. For the White House not to know that there was a raid seems a tad unlikely considering who it is. However, I would hope that all of us can hold judgment until we know what they are looking for and investigating. For anyone to jump to any conclusions one way or another is just pure speculation. Maybe he is totally innocent, and the FBI has it all wrong. I don’t want to jump on any silly conspiracy theories.

Wow!!! I am blown away. I just showed my wife this thread and we were both totally amazed. To think of the the millions of people who have watched and enjoyed that movie, and that specific part of the movie is beyond amazing. Thank you so very much for finding this forum/site and posting and participating. You are truly in Zeppelin folklore. You are beyond appreciated.

Yeah, that guy might not be playing with a full deck anymore. Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me? Is there is anyone home?

Hahahhahaha! There was a picture of her up right after she had slammed into a car before she went on that rampage. To say that she didn’t look so healthy would be an understatement. What a great movie Donnie Brasco was. I’ll try and find the pic, she did have on a cute Tank Top/ wife beater.

Well, I don’t know it would be an ouch situation, or why it would leave a mark. It’s just not true. Simply put people can believe it they don’t want to look at actual statistics. below are just a couple of many articles and publications that would happen to argue directly against what was posted without any facts or stats to back it up. How about we have a murder problem in our country, and people can try and paint it whatever way they want. But the facts don’t back it up. The funny thing is, I’m an independent. I just won’t simply believe whatever is posted by some right leaning blog. I’m not a Newscum fan, which was pretty creative way of saying his name. I chuckled at that. https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-red-state-murder-problem http://www.cjcj.org/uploads/cjcj/documents/californias_republican_counties_have_worse_crime_trends.pdf https://www.salon.com/2022/03/16/democrats-for--but-new-data-shows-higher-rates-in-red-states/ https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html

Yeah man, that is pretty gross. You know what is also gross, not having compassion. What public service do you do, what community are you helping. Again another post about California and our terrible ways. Let me know what state you live in. We can all find things about each state that we don’t like and wish we could change. In my earlier posts you would have read about the policies and practices of this state that I don’t appreciate. You’re so busy trying to troll and win an argument rather than having an actual discussion.

You can look at any of my posts talking about this great nation of ours. Your posts are filled with exactly what you have above. As far as freaking out, man read your last several posts. I get it, your sensitive, we all are John. I challenge you to find me saying anything disparaging about the other states. If you want to constantly post about California being a total mess, New York, or any of the states that are liberal leaning you are just showing your ignorant, incompetent, brainwashed, cult way of thinking. I absolutely know what it means to have a United States. On the other hand your constant rubbish of comparing America to the fall of the USSR, and all your other posts that simply troll have become tiresome. I also know I have may posts in which I have shown my appreciation for your answers and or thoughts. On the other hand you are usually a know it all disrespectful member. I’m always for an open honest debate. If you want to get disrespectful, I can as well.

You get the fuck out nerd! I didn’t begin to say that we should. I simply was letting you know how important the states you love to hate are to your life and world. You like to post idiotic crap from your little proud boy posts. I’m sorry you don’t like how much the blue states contribute to your life. Again, talk tough on a forum.

Having read your absolute ignorant response again made me laugh my ass off. California has our nations largest port, which has everything to do with our largest trading partners, China, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, and Taiwan. If just figured into the equation our food, and agriculture which is over half the countries supply, as well as being responsible for over 90% of the country’s wine. We can then talk about the all the major corporations, Cisco, Apple, Google, Facebook, Disney. The 295 Billion dollar entertainment industry. Now I know you are on some real funny blogs. The water supply from our state, the electric supply, and Solar supply to neighboring states. over 46% of our land is Government owned and our oil supply alone would be crippling to the rest of the country. As I’ve said before, we are all entitled to our own opinions, but to actually think about removing 2 of the 3 largest contributors California being the largest contributor to our country and the impact that would have on the rest of the country and saying you are all for it? That has to be one of the most ignorant things you have ever said. To actually think of removing the largest contributor to the tech industry, agriculture, food, solar, entertainment, and by far the largest economy to our country. Talk about community college thinking. We wouldn’t be letting the door hitting us in our ass, we would be slamming it into your face.

You can’t be serious. Cali alone is responsible for over half the countries fruit and vegetables. We can look at our economy, and any number of metrics. 12 percent of our population lives in Cali, we are responsible for 15% of the National GDP. What a jackass thing to say. The country wouldn’t be what it is without the contributions of NY and California. You’re a funny little conspiracy theorist. You and your peaceful separation. Talk tough on a forum.

Yeah man, she has some issues. I feel like something like this has happened before with her. Certainly not the fire and her catching on fire. But hit and runs, drinking and driving and so forth. She is very lucky she did not kill and or hurt anyone.

Red, you win the internet today. The last several posts are gold Jerry!

RIP Roger E. Mosley. Biggest arms in TV history.

Watching these lessons is really a reminder of what an absolute genius Jimmy is. The tunings, strum patterns, and the overall complexity of his music. We are all truly blessed to have the ability to listen to his and their music. Incredible.

Maybe we are arguing separate issues. But to say that Blue states do not subsidize Red states is very misleading, and it is not accurate. The link below is from the Rockefeller inst. as well as the AP. https://apnews.com/article/north-america-business-local-taxes-ap-top-news-politics-2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c https://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2021/12/what-would-happen-if-blue-states-stopped-paying-for-red-states/

Thanks for your reply. Whether I agree with you or not, I know that I will get a well thought out response. Backed up with research. Have a great weekend John. Cheers.

Thanks for your snarky reply. That was just one of many articles I’ve been reading. I’ll post as many as you would like. I’m fully aware of my states issues. And as I have said I’m not a huge fan of our current Governor. I’ll tell you what, just simply type into any server you want to use, and type in what states have the highest crime rates. Which states are the poorest, or most reliant on welfare, we can search anything you would like. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/01/13/most-dangerous-states-in-america-violent-crime-murder-rate/40968963/ http://www.usa.com/rank/us--crime-index--state-rank.htm https://newrepublic.com/amp/article/166274/economy-record-republicans-vs-democrats And because you will say that they are left leaning, let’s try this one. https://www.thebalance.com/democrats-vs-republicans-which-is-better-for-the-economy-4771839