Hello All, Mr. Chef Free may have mentioned this already, but our local SF station here in Northern Ca 107.7 the Bone still gets the Lead out. There was a 20 year period where they had some very good DJ’s that would actually play a couple of hours of Zeppelin every night. They would do it at 7:00pm and they started getting into Bootlegs. I would on occasion get a little upset as they would play shit bootlegs with shit sound from a shit show and I personally would get upset being as big of a Zeppelin fan as there could be, because I felt is was not representative of who they are and were. This is off topic, but I have been listening to early Bootlegs and albums, the Lemon Song, and Sitting and Thinking are just truly out of this world. If we want to hear this band at their height, all members getting into it, playing unbelievably complex, brilliant music. Throw on the Lemon Song. It is truly a masterpiece. I don’t care if Robert borrowed every blues lyrics that exist, Jimmy obviously was inspired by several blues standards, JPJ is out of his mind on that song, and JB is just in another class altogether. But that song is just as raw, as classic, and to me it is an example of what the best band in the world sounds like. I understand that it may not be their best song, I would argue that it is just a pure exercise of musicianship. All 4 of them are just beyond words or explanation. Cheers all. Have a great night.

Hello All, okay, I just listened to 3 different Queen shows in a row. I’ll gladly post them for all. I want to say that I love Freddy M, I love all of their members. I also need to say that my wife and I watched 3 different shows where he had backing tracks on every song, and there were several times he did not sing at all and it was a backing track. I really hate to even point this out. I was also less than impressed with the guitar and what was produced or lack thereof on stage. We listened to Another One Bites the Dust on 3 different concerts. Man, how I am just learning that they had backing/lead vocals, and that the guitar was also synched. Again, I say this actually being blown away and just tripped out. I’m not knocking them, Freddy was incredible, on these 3 shows he was passable and had not only backing vocals, but straight lead vocals happening. You could barely hear him. I’ll post them, I really feel like an ass for bringing this up, I’m just surprised at the lack of musicianship that was on stage. I am talking Page on his worst night would not have had a backing track playing along with him, and the vocals were as blatant as any lip synced song I have ever seen. I might take a lot of shit for this, I will figure out how to post these shows tomorrow. I was just blown away by the lack of authenticity.

Spot on! While Plant was a different singer/songwriter after 72, really in my opinion Page was a different producer and guitarist, John Paul was probably the one consistent musician, and John B was just out of this world on every track he ever played on. It is really incredible to think about the 4 of them collectively, and individually. The Townsend reference is so on point. I really think that all of the music/rock world was on the same page as that. Meaning, everyone knew that they couldn’t possibly compete with them. There were amazing bands and amazing musicians during that time, it just happened that the 4 best got together for that 12 year period and ruled the world. It is absolutely sad to me to think what could and would have been without the passing of that amazing man. They were all robbed of moving forward and beyond what they had done. I think and talk about it with my family all the time. To think of those guys after 1980 and moving into a new direction would have been incredible. Godbless them for the years we had. To this day, being 35 plus years into them, I am as devoted and impressed today as I was when I got my first tape/record and certainly by the time I purchased and or knew what a bootleg was. These guys were fucking amazing! Like not other. Just the absolute best that ever graced a stage or studio. It truly isn’t close. And I love a lot of bands. They were just playing in a different league and a different sport then everyone else. God they were bad! Just ferociously good. Have a great night. Be well. Cheers.

That is Rad my friend. I also agree with you selections, and yes JB saves those songs for sure! What an amazing band to have found, and to have obsessed on. There couldn’t be another band that you would do this with. The power and the mystery alone is just incredible. Thank you for all your awesome posts and thoughts! It is cool to read and explore the nuances of the band through someone. You have a great weekend my friend. I am going through 1970 right now just to hear the power and glory. I will say, the 77, and 79 tour was amazing! They had reached and developed into another band. That is just the absolute incredible path that these 4 men took along with their amazing manager. I have to say that Plants lyrics are overlooked, by Houses of the Holy he was on another planet. When we get to PG and Presence and then ITTOD that man is an absolute beast lyrically. I would say that he is in his own category all by himself. But really because he was the Black Dog man, and the Whole Lotta Love man, he gets overlooked constantly. Thanks again, be well, I hope to hear from you soon Sir.

Well said Sir, I am with you, I absolutely love that they were the biggest band in the world, and they were not available. It’s a point of pride, and I try to follow that in my own life in my own little world. Obviously, I am no JPJ, RP, JP, or JB. However, it is something that I have always been proud of. To have been the best selling, the best live band, the best frontman, the best lead guitarist, the absolute best musician in John Paul, and by far the best drummer ever, and to have not made themselves available or to have not bowed to the media or establishment. What an amazing achievement. Thank you for your post, I could not agree more.

I agree with you completely. I truly think that his 75-80 voice was amazing and that he learned to sing. I believe that his 68-72 voice was just done on pure power and strength of his vocal cords. I absolutely think that after 72 he did have to adapt and learn how to project his voice and be within the best trio of all time. That had to be very daunting to say the least. When you have the worlds best guitarist and producer behind/next to you. When you have the worlds best musician in JPJ, and you have the worlds best drummer behind you, that has to be a very stressful and difficult task. I would say that Robert handled and excelled as no other could have. It is absolutely amazing to me that he was able to do what he did. I absolutely think he doesn’t get nearly enough credit for his song writing, and I also think it is easy for us to just simply say his voice after 72 wasn’t as good or didn’t match up to the band. I would argue that. I think he was always on par with what was going on inside of the band as was able to adapt and crush his circumstances. He absolutely had some terrible nights. But they all did. Or specifically everyone except JPJ. Thank you for your opinion and thoughts. It is cool to read what others think on this and or any subject regarding these Men. They were head and shoulders above everyone in my opinion. It isn’t even close.

Hello Sir, man, that is tough. It depends if it is studio or live. And the truth is, there isn’t a song I don’t love/like. When I say I am consumed by this band, I truly mean that. I suppose there are a few songs that are not my favorite. But really I absolutely love all of their songs. I am really into their later years right now. But next month I might be into the early years which is what I was introduced too. I am really into PG, and Presence and ITTOD right now as far as studio, and for live material, I am obsessed with anything Montreux and anything that is in SF which were my first Bootlegs I purchased. However, their 77 run in NY and LA is mind blowing and I love to throw that on and make my daughter listen to it. Sorry if I have not answered this question. But I am into all of it, no matter the year, and no matter the circumstances that they were under. I appreciate and love all of it.

I would like to add that Robert’s voice from 68-72 while powerful and amazing, there were also things that he was able to learn and do in later years that he would not have been capable of in his early years/most powerful voice. I will stress that his Physical Graffiti voice may be my personal favorite. The gritty vulnerability that he had was absolutely incredible and stunning. By the time we get to 77 his voice and his capabilities were very impressive. Maybe some won’t agree. That is fine. I would also like to point out that one of his best performances ever was the last song on the last studio album that they did. I’m gonna crawl is absolutely out of this world. Not only for Plant, but Page as well. But Ten Years Gone, In the Light, Trampled, Kashmir, and in my opinion every song off of Presence would not be what it was with the original voice. Again, it is okay to not agree or share that opinion. I would say as much as I love to listen to the shear power of 68-72 Plant, there are songs and performances from 73-80 that I absolutely prefer and appreciate just as much as the early years. For me, it shows the brilliance of Plant as a front man and a singer/performer, and I would rather have Earls Court in my time of dying over in other band and singer ever. As a matter of fact I think too much is made of his declining vocal performance. I could argue that others in the band declined just as much if not more. That’s not important to me. What is important, and what I believe to be true, is Robert in 73-2023 is just in a league of his own. He certainly went through phases that I could do without. But, he also had incredible performances in those years that I personally enjoy as much as any version of his work.

Awesome! I really don’t have a problem with any of these choices. As a life long fan, as a person who purchased 100’s of Bootlegs and was lucky enough to see Page and Plant, Plant solo several times I am pumped to be able to go back over this list and check out your favorite versions and be able to create my own list. I will say, I appreciate your opinion and choice of songs and their versions, Thanks for the list. Great job, have a great weekend.

Man, that is amazing to read, and amazing to hear/know. I’m 46ish and started diving into them at about 12. Certainly as I grew up and was able to learn more about them my appreciation/obsession grew. But to read what you posted, or what Mr. Strider has posted has just been an inspiration. I was able to have my Mother and Father tell me stories of seeing them in 69-70 and 71. But, while they were absolutely fans, they were not as consumed as I was. I bring that up because to hear someone that is a decade older than myself, someone who has been dedicated and devoted. It is awesome to read your perspective of their maturations and changes. Have a great night, it’s pretty incredible that we have the amount of people that are devoted and invested in this group of men. Thanks again.

I’m not embarrassed at all. I know that you are for sure. Spouting your rude stupid thoughts on Covid and or any other topic. Mr. I give everyone Hummers. You are a child, a brainless child. I do know that you wouldn’t ever get tough with anyone, you wouldn’t challenge anyone. It’s easy to talk your stupid thoughts on this Forum and or Thread or other threads. But aside from a few people, we all know you are just the scumbag who says some provocative stuff. You don’t even know what it means. I’ll gladly pay for your plane ticket to my area, meat you for a beer, and then let you know what an absolute cry 😢 baby you are. Literally, I’ll pay for your plane ticket, come and see me, talk your talk, and see how that ends up. I promise I’ll be really nice to you Sir. Pay for you to fly to the Bay Area, and then fly home. I would love to meet you and see your attitude change. But absolutely I will promise you that I will pay for you to come visit and have a good time with me, and then pay for your ride home. I think we can become friends after this. If you don’t I appreciate that and apologize. But 100% I’ll pay for you to come out to Santa Cruz, and then I’ll pay for you to fly to whatever fly over state you live in. I really mean that in the kindest way possible. After this post, I will forever forward be a nice gentlemen to you. Mr. I have given everyone hummers, please forgive me for my ignorance, actions, and posts. I apologize. But also please reach out to me as I would love to have you as a guest. If not, I’m sorry for embarrassing you and showing you everyone what a simple child you are. Again, I could be wrong? If I am, I’ll be the first to tell you in person that I am sorry Hummer.

As you once told me, I’ll ride him like a motorcycle! However, I would get a room with this little simpleton. My hair in a ponytail whipping him is his stupid face. I would love it. The funny thing is, he hasn’t had any experience, he is just a rude jackass. As my favorite comedian said. “He doesn’t know dick about cock”!

Goddamn, you are a wordsmith. Just that reply made me laugh out loud. Yeah man, keep the show up. I absolutely 👍 dig your topics and thoughts. Thanks for being real. There are several of you on this forum that are honest, and also like to keep it pushing. I appreciate it. Have a great night/weekend Steve.

Yes Sir. I hope you get it figured out and can get some relief and comfort Red. Getting old can suck for sure. Hope you and yours are well. I also hope to hear more of your art. I dig it brother! Be well.

Hahahahha! Yes Sir! Always be good to your significant other. We are taking a gun safety class together this weekend. What’s funny about this is, a couple of months ago she would have argued this and told me that she wasn’t interested. I just want to make sure she and my daughter are good without me, and capable of handling themselves and should have knowledge of how weapons work and why we have them. Super proud of her. Have a great night Sir. Let me know if you watch the Last of Us. That show is amazing.

Hummer, look at all of your shit political posts! You spout your dumb opinions. You and a few others. You throw it out there and then sit back. You are a troll. What I’m saying to you is that not everyone agrees with you! As not everyone would agree with me. The difference is, you are the one who posts your scumbag dipshit thoughts. I absolutely know my opinion and or thoughts are not correct. You on the other hand can’t admit to being wrong because you are as I said a spineless wimp. If you had any courage you would say “ look this is my opinion and I could be wrong because I don’t know how everyone feels”. Those are your shit thoughts that you like to troll this and a couple other threads. I am here to tell you to stay in your lane, know that you are a fucking idiot like we all are. You can have your little dinner parties, with your little circle that all have the same ideas and thoughts. That means you are a stunted mental midget who can’t see anything except your idiotic side. Really man, stop trying to keep up. You are getting your ass whipped on every response and or post. Just keep it to your favorite team, beer, song, band, concert, and stuff like that. Also, pay attention to what other people have experienced. My parents were at the most legendary concerts ever, with guys like Red, and Strider. At the Forum, at the Warfield, and the Filmore West, Day on the Green. I hope you were also. You should actually start asking people about their experiences rather than posting your awful pro trump and or shitbag conservative thoughts. And I was raised by Republicans, religious conservatives. I’m good with all their values and ideas. You on the other hand are a person who lacks empathy, a know it all know nothing dumb fuck. Look, be real for once in your life on this forum and say, “ I’m sorry, these are just my stupid thoughts and ideas”! Or don’t, keep talking you stupid shit, and I’ll continue to beat you like a drum! Like John Bonham playing Moby Dick! You are a frustrating hack! If you are truly conservative, and have empathy, and have compassion then you would post more thoughts and ideas about it. All you post is your absolute jackass ideas about the people who don’t agree and think like you do. Seriously, take a moment and think about that. Or don’t, and post some other stupid thoughts behind me and I’ll continue to show you what an arrogant asshole you are. Or, don’t ever post behind me again! I can freely admit that I am just a person trying to figure out life and be good to others. Ask yourself who are you? On this forum you are an opinionated asshole. Say something else. Really you should never say anything about anything. Right on Troll. “ keep on keeping on”!

Why did Michael Cohen go to prison? Do he go because he wanted too. I am not saying that he didn’t act on his own or decide to do things in his best/worst interest. It is really easy to read and or know what he went to prison for. It wasn’t just because he was a scumbag like you. He was acting at the behest of someone. It’s amazing to me that he went and served prison time, and yet the person he went to prison for and because of gets a free pass. Just shows what an absolute tool and cult follower you are. I don’t think he should have went to prison for what he did, I also don’t think Trump should go to prison for fucking a porn star and paying hush money for it. But to deny that he went to prison for that exact reason is idiotic. Which you are. Just stop posting politics in general. You are brain dead and do not know anything about anything. Seriously, stick to music, or what show you like, or what beer you want to drink. Other than that you are just plain ignorant! Shut up already. You are like a kid whistling in the dark. Get a clue.

Finally, no actual response, nothing but hot air. By the way, you are by far the most rude inconsiderate asshole on this thread. I have no idea what the hell you meant by Tah! tool. Nor did anyone else. So shut the fuck up and pay attention to yourself. As I said, don’t post after me again. You are w spineless wimp! A shit bag that trashed others and spews your nonsense and expects no one else to challenge you. Except you are a dumb old man who is locked in your little bubble. You know nothing about anything except what you read on your headline that you follow. You don’t have an original thought in your Zika virus head. So you keep on keeping on. Wear your helmet, and make sure to wear your mouth piece! I don’t want you to get hurt. Keep on Keeping on with your dumb self.

I can appreciate that. I would suggest watching some of her live in concert, or live in studio singing. If you don’t have the time. I understand. But that also means you don’t get to judge and or pass judgment on her. Unless you have actually checked into her live performances, you can’t really form an opinion. However, if you simply don’t like her, then that would be different. But that means you can’t have an opinion and or argument against her. That would mean you don’t have time and or the want to give her a chance which is fine. I have plenty of talented people I don’t care to listen to. Be well Slave. I hope you and yours are safe and prosperous.

Well Sir, I will politely disagree with you. Having my wife in the industry, we certainly agree that it originated under Bush. But it actually started under Clinton. However, Trump made several decisions and choices that are directly connected to what we are dealing with. I will post the facts and findings. I just have a feeling you won’t want to hear and or read them. It is as if everyone forgot who Covid started under and or during their admin. It is as if we all forgot what Trump declared and the choices he did and didn’t make. We can blame Biden. I’m okay with that. History will just prove that to be a false narrative. I will wait until the dust settles and we can then start posting actual facts from each administration. I’m not saying that I think Biden is crushing it. But I will wait to post the actual facts of the timeline.

I was at job sites all day in the city. Man, that place is not doing well. To say the least. Hope your pinched nerve is better and I hope to hear some new music and creations from you soon.

If I have offended you or anything of the sort that was not my intent. You are absolutely the first person I started following on this forum, as well as the original. I have said many times that your knowledge of the band and persons in the band are absolutely amazing. I was simply making a statement. Certainly not meaning to say anything other than that. If I did, I apologize. Your thoughts on all of the Zeppelin topics, as well as others are always appreciated by me. Even if I do not agree with your opinions. I can certainly appreciate your interest in said topics and your intellect.

Seriously, thank you for all the insight into how recordings and the process works. I have several musicians in my family. None of them explain it the way you do.

Does that show depress you at all? I’m also really into Port Protection. What a great show that is. Tried getting into “ The Last of Us “ that show gave me a bunch of anxiety. I have several weapons/guns in the house. My wife who is a bleeding heart liberal watched the first season and told me she wants to start hunting with me, wants to take a gun safety course, and also get her concealed license permit. Made me smile. I’m working on her. The problem is, her mother is an Organic Chemist PHD graduate from Stanford. Graduated first in her class, she is actually one of 5 people who created Aleve. Nancy Krauss who is my Mother In Law, she is now the head Surgeon for some hospital and runs a bunch of drug rehabilitation centers in my area. My reason for mentioning this is she was obviously influenced by her, myself being from a family of gun owners and hunters, I have explained that if shit hits the fan, I appreciate that her mom can stitch me up, and maybe tell me what meds to take. But we need to be prepared beyond the degrees from her and her mother. If you get a chance watch Port Protection. Great show.

Listen hear you bag of hammers. You are a follower, you have no original thoughts, you couldn’t begin to try and spar with me. You really need to stick to your shit posts from the dumb headlines you received off of OAN News or Faux or better yet your favorite source RT News. For the last time, every stupid political post you have, or every shit thought that you put up on the Random or Covid thread is not yours. You remind me of BOBO on the Howard Stern Show. None of your posts are authentic, or thought out for that matter. You throw some shit at the wall and get Crying Blue Balls to back you because you are two low IQ men who haven’t been challenged on this forum. Certainly in life you specifically wouldn’t say anything that you say on this forum because you would get schooled and or slapped. I’ll keep telling you that if you post after me and try and get cute I’ll have to throttle you. So to sum it up, you have no original thoughts. You constantly post shit headlines and change a few words to make it seem like your own ideas. For the last time Hummer who gives 69. Grow up. If you want to keep doing this, I am all for it. I will also say, if you want to be kind, and you don’t want to get your daily tongue lashings then just stop posting your semi retarded Corky Thatcher posts. I know, life goes on. I don’t care that you rode the short bus and had to wear a helmet in school. I absolutely feel for you that you got ridiculed and were bullied every day. That is why I’m saying just change your attitude and be respectful. You could also not respond to me anymore. But if I see you post your Maggot posts I’m going to call you out for the idiot you are. Have a good night 69. I hope you can see your way out of your stupid political posts that only you and a few other people appreciate or even agree with.