I'm reading Scars of Sweet PAradise, it's about Janis Joplin. Great book, I reccomend it to any Janis fan. I"m also trying to read The Two Towers, but it just keeps getting put off. : ( I guess that's my fault.

That's good. I thought he wrote a song about her, I can't find the lyrics, but it's called Aniversary. It talks about how he's upset. so I take it that he didn't really want the divorce. (I'm not trying to pry or put my nose where it doesn't belong, just pointing it out.) But I think it's great that they are on good terms.

I love Yngwie. I don't listen to him much anymore but he is amazing.

I hate long drives. Rabia, being as you seeem interested in "vintage" people I was wondering if you could help me find a site. I used to know it but I forgot it. It's pink and talks about Rita Hayworth, Audrey Hepburn, Marilyn Monroe, etc. It also talked about styles all the way to the 70s. I can tell you more details but do you know what site I"m talking about?

Oh wait, nevermind, it was a stupid question, and I know the answer. I also could've sounded disrespectful. And Robert and Maureen are on good terms?

I've not heard a lot of their stuff, just the Ozzy. They're my little brothers favorite band.

I tired too, but full of energy. No school tomorrow, that means I can stay up late!

Yes Vannis it did show up. Hello and how are you?

Noora, you have really pretty eyes.

I'm on there, I don't post much though. And I'm on a Janis forum too, but there I'm janisfan715, except I dn't post there much either.

I have teachers like that. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just let her know that you do't mean to mess up. And I'd try to make up for it, ask for extra credit and etc.

Great pictures everyone. And Bonnie, don't worry I"m about as white as a piece of paper. I don't tan either, I burn.

Actually, Moby Dick is John Bonham's Bron-Yr-Aur or White Mountain Side if you will. I'm not much on just drum solos but who am I say what's too long or too short?

Hello everyone who is here. And Rabia I completely understand, I love photography but there is't anything here to get a picture of.

Thank you Angi so much. I'm now off to post this for someone. I'll attach Ev's name for him.

Blue Soul, I'm totally okay with your thread. This crap is what I'm not okay with. There is no point in all the arguing. People can have their opinions. I'm sure that people who post about STH backmasking know that it irratates people. I also don't think that any of the band members have a problem with people interested in backmasking. I do think that they don't like it when people accuse them of it. Robert Plant once said something about it along the lines of he wished that people would just leave him and his (or Zeppelin's) music alone with the backmasking. I think peole should respect his wishes. to clear up the Satanism: Satanism First off, we need to separate the Christian Satan, the Devil who rules hell, from the Judaic Lucifer/Satan, and then from LaVey's Church of Satan. In Judaism, there is no hell, no judgment, and Satan is not the "Devil". The Hebrew root of the word Satan means "accuser". He was not the enemy or opposer of God, but rather a sort of Prosecuting Attorney who tests people for God. Witness the story of Job. That said, "Satanism", as in the whole "powers of evil" cult thing, which came to popularity in the last few decades, has little to nothing to with the Biblical Satan, be he angel or demon. Thelema Jimmy (and only Jimmy), was/is a Thelemite, not in any form a Satanist. Thelemites do in fact perform rituals to invoke spirits, but for purposes of goodness. Thelema ("THEL-ay-mah") is a Greek word meaning "will" or "intention". It is also the name of a new spiritual philosophy which has arisen over the past several hundred years and is now gradually becoming established worldwide. One of the earliest mentions of this philosophy occurs in the classic Gargantua and Pantagruel written by Francois Rabelais in 1532. One episode of this epic adventure tells of the founding of an "Abbey of Thelema" as an institution for the cultivation of human virtues, which Rabelais identified as being squarely opposite the prevailing Christian proprieties of the time. The sole rule of the Abbey of Thelema was: "Do what thou wilt". This has become one of the basic tenets of Thelemic philosophy today. Although touched upon by various prominent visionary thinkers in the following few hundred years, the seeds of Thelema sown by Rabelais eventually came to fruition in the early part of this century when developed by an Englishman named Aleister Crowley. Crowley was a poet, author, mountaineer, magician, and member of the occult society known as the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. In 1904, while traveling in Egypt with his wife Rose, Crowley became inextricably involved in a series of events which he claimed to inaugurate a new aeon of human evolution. These culminated in April when Crowley entered a state of trance and wrote down the three chapters of 220 verses which came to be called The Book of the Law (also known as Liber AL and Liber Legis). Among other things, this book declared: "The word of the law is Thelema" and "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law". Crowley spent the rest of his life developing the philosophy of Thelema as revealed by the Book of the Law. The result was a voluminous output of commentary and works relating to magick, mysticism, yoga, qabalah, and other occult subjects. Virtually all of this writing bears the influence of Thelema as interpreted and understood by Crowley in his capacity as prophet of the New Aeon. One theory holds that each chapter of the Book of the Law is associated with a particular aeon of human spiritual evolution. According to this view, Chapter One characterizes the Aeon of Isis, when the archetype of female divinity was paramount. Chapter Two relates to the Aeon of Osiris, when the archetype of the slain god became prominent, and the world's patriarchal religions became established. Chapter Three heralds the dawning of a new aeon, the Aeon of Horus, the child of the Isis and Osiris. It is in this new aeon that the philosophy of Thelema will be fully revealed to humanity, and will become established as the primary paradigm for the spiritual evolution of the species. Some of the essential elements of belief in Thelema are: "Every man and every woman is a star." This is usually taken to mean that each individual is unique and has their own path in a spacious universe wherein they can move freely without collision. "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." and "thou hast no right but to do thy will." Most Thelemites hold that every person possesses a True Will, a single overall motivation for their existence. The Law of Thelema mandates that each person follow their True Will to attain fulfillment in life and freedom from restriction of their nature. Because no two True Wills can be in real conflict (according to "Every man and every woman is a star"), this Law also prohibits one from interfering with the True Will of any other person. The notion of absolute freedom for an individual to follow his or her True Will is a cherished one among Thelemites. This philosophy also recognizes that the main task of an individual setting out on the path of Thelema is to first discover his or her True Will, giving methods of self-exploration such as magick great importance. Furthermore, every True Will is different, and because each person has a unique point-of-view of the universe, no one can determine the True Will for another person. Each person must arrive at the discovery for themselves. "Love is the law, love under will." This is an important corollary to the above, indicating that the essential nature of the Law of Thelema is that of Love. Each individual unites with his or her True Self in Love, and so empowered, the entire universe of conscious beings unites with every other being in Love. Of course, with the emphasis on freedom and individuality inherent in Thelema, the beliefs of any given Thelemite are likely to differ from those of any other. In the Comment appended to The Book of the Law it is stated that: "All questions of the Law are to be decided only by appeal to my writings, each for himself." Although Thelema is sometimes referred to as a "religion", it accommodates the full range of individual beliefs, from atheism to polytheism. The important thing is that each person has the right to fulfill themselves through whatever beliefs and actions are best suited to them (so long as they do not interfere with the will of others), and only they themselves are qualified to determine what these are. Love is the law, love under will Ritual Magick Thelemites do perform ritual magick. Wands, knives, the whole bit. However, not for purposes of evil, but rather to harness the power of ones Holy Guardian Angel. Within the system of Thelema, the Holy Guardian Angel is the "Silent Self", representative of one's truest divine nature. I'm of the opinion that Page actually performed ritual onstage during his bow solo. The first ritual a Thelemite performs is called the Banishment. It's a cleansing of all things negative. One turns to each of the four corners and invokes the spirit of that cardinal point, ending on the fifth point which is the self. In Jimmy's bow solo, he sure enough strikes one chord after another, each time turning to one of the four directions. He repeats this several time finishing pointing skyward. I've seen the ritual performed, and it's pretty clear to me that's what he's up to. But I'm must stress that this is not evil. In fact it's precisely the opposite. There are a lot of bad vibes in a rock concert audience. Belligerent people who've had too much drink. People experiencing bad drug trips. The Banishment is meant to shake that all away and ground the audience, focusing them back on the music. Of course, that's just my interpretation. Astrology and Symbolism Jimmy did use both in Led Zeppelin. His dragon suits bore his astrological chart signs (Capricorn, Mercury and Saturn). His "Zoso" symbol is a stylized amalgam of centuries old alchemical symbols for same. that was written by Ev and I think it's right.

I didn't hear anything, so I do deny it. But if it's "clear" that the message is there visual aid shouldn't be needed.

I hate listening skills, and good night Noora.

I love this song, as I said before. I even have the t-shirt with the lyrics. But people see me where that and assume that I have no idea who they are, and that is anything but true.

Have fun!

I listened to it and I didn't hear it and if you listen without the lyrics you can't make out a single thing. I'm not offended but I think that the members of Zep would be.

I'm glad he's on the mend.

I'm in French, but just a first year so I doubt I can help but if you think I can I'd be more than happy.

Hello again. Angi, I was just wondering if Ev still has his "essay" like thing about the Thelma beliefs, and if he dose could I somehow get a copy? The people are starting in again and I'd like to let them know what it is while Ev is away.

Not trying to cause problems because I don't think it's true, but how many people here actually believe that the stuff is there? None of them were Satanists, Jimmy believed in Thelma. Where is Evster when you need him?