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The younger guy with the camera around his neck is in both pics as well. Are he and she a couple ?
They are definitely a "couple" of people appearing in both photos...
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Does anybody know who is the woman near Jimmy? Perhaps these pics are from '77 US tour. My friend told me that it's Charlotte.But that woman seems to be a different person to me.
In the first photo Jimmy appears to be wearing the same jacket, white pants and black boots outside the Plaza Hotel in New York (June 1977) that he wore in Oakland (July 1977). However, that isn't Charlotte Martin and I've never seen any evidence to suggest she accompanied him during that particular tour.
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It's from when Richard Cole married his former wife, Marilyn, at Caxton Hall in 1974.
Nice work, Otto.
When Aleister Crowley discovered mescaline, he developed seven rituals - the Rites of Eleusis - and rented Caxton Hall to demonstrate them.
Coincidentally, Ringo Starr of The Beatles married Maureen Cox there in 1965.
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Jones also did the music for two computer animation pieces by Rebecca Allen. I believe La Fura Dels Baus was also part of the "Memory Palace" exhibition.
Unfortunately, I've only found the 'Liquid Selves' segment to be commercially available.
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By the way I happened to find John Paul's interview concerning his family.
His eldest daughter seems to have changed her job.
From a 1999 interview in Australian Musician:
Q: Where did you meet your wife Mo and what are your daughters doing?
A: "We met in 1965 during a double date with a man who played plastic sax, and have been together since. She was a spotlight operator in a West End theatre. My eldest girl is a TV producer, the second an animation producer although she's currently looking after her babies, and the youngest is a massage therapist."
In 1992 John was the musical director for a one-hour showcase of technology and art titled 'Memory Palace' at the World Expo in Seville, Spain. It included 'Liquid Selves' by Karl Sims, an animation short produced by John Paul Jones and is available on the dvd
'Odyssey - The Mind's Eye Presents Computer Animation Experience' (ID0936ODDVD)
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That photo wasn't taken that day. That is not how Robert looked in 1978.
*edit* - this pic below is from the date you talk about Steve. Completely different.
Many thanks for the clarification and additional photograph. I will look further into the original photograph posted here.
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I had wondered about their social life in the 70's. Why did not they go with their partners to such an event? Was it their policy?
I've been asked in the past to kindly refrain from divulging overly personal details about the bandmembers and their families. I view that request as a reasonable one and do my level best to respect it.
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Who is the couple in white in the middle of this photo and where and when was it taken? Thanks.
September 15 1978
Jimmy was best man for Richard Cole's (2nd) marriage to 24 year old blonde art restorer Tracy Heron-Webber whom he had met six weeks prior in Spain. It was held at the Chelsea Registry Office.
Everyone from Richard's wedding then rushed over to attend Bad Company drummer Simon Kirke's wedding to 23-year-old American model Desiree Serino in Fulham.
Jimmy, Robert, JPJ, and Bonzo all attended the informal double wedding champaign reception for the Cole and Kirke newlyweds at The Golden Lion, also in Fulham.
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I thought the same about the hair, but I'm pretty sure she was at Knebworth.
Perhaps the second photo Knebby alluded to will be posted to help confirm it or not.
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2. Could the woman seen from the back at Knebworth be Julie Felix?
Well, it's certainly the best suggestion so far. Couple things about it: I don't think Julie ever wore her hair quite that long and she was living in Norway at the time.
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I was not there, but a friend who was at the Chelsea Drug Store swears it was about Jimi. Are you sure Jimmy Miller. She is a lady of a certain age and I do not fancy getting it in the neck. Regrds Cecil
Sir Mick Jagger is fairly certain it was Jimmy Miller (see previous post). He is also of a certain age.
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Mr jJimi did look pretty ill,sure it was a reference to hendrix.
Consider the lyrical passage in it's entirety to include the line "he said one word to me and that was "dead", I said to him YCAGWYW..." It's producer Jimmy Miller all the way!
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Well, the fact is I don't know for certain. It's not the best angle and to my eyes grainy.
From what I can see, it isn't a bandmember's wife or child, nor Richard Cole's wife for that matter (a blonde). I don't think Robert's sister attended. The woman in the photo
is not a Bonham, Baldwin, Page, Cole or Cobbold family member so far as I know. She
could be a Knebby but she appears to be much older than thirteen at the time.
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And there is another pic mystery. This is a pic recorded in another thread(Main Forum/Photos). Jimmy is holding baby Scarlet. It's very adorable!
Would this be a photo taken when and where?
If it is difficult to specify the place and the date, it is good in rough.
Scarlet was born in March 1971 so it's almost certainly within a year or so of that.
The beard Jimmy had later in 1971 is either coming in nicely or, if it was taken in '72,
growing back. Given there seems to be a baggage cart in the background it's most
probably Heathrow Airport, and perhaps was taken as they were leaving for Japan in
September 1971 or returning in October 1971. I'm still looking into this further. I'm
posting off the top of my head at the moment.
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This pic is backstage at the Knebworth August 4th 1979.
My friend scanned it from the book.
Who is a backward woman in this pic?
Does anybody know who she is?
The scan is somewhat grainy. From what I can see she's not familiar. Does not seem to be anyone closely connected to the band or a member of the Cobbold family. There were so many acts on the bill that day -- perhaps she was part of another act's entourage. Does the book not identify her?
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Also original photographs of John Bonham and Keith Moon drumming together - L.A. Forum June 23 1977.
I have a few private shots of that, if I'm not mistaken. I will post them to the photo forum this weekend.
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ok this is about a stones song---he says he went down to the chelsea drug store and is waitin in line with mr Jimmy?
suppose he is talkin bout jimmy page and is the chelsea drugstore the chelsea towers (cloister?) where syd barrett lived? I would imagine it was a drugstore.
It's a common misconception Mick is referring to Jimmy Page. He's not. He is most likely referring to James "Jimmy" Miller who produced all The Rolling Stones albums from 'Beggars Banquet' through 'Goats Head Soup'.
Mick once talked about how back when Jimmy Miller was producing them they would run a song idea by him and if he didn't like it, he would utter the word "dead". Obviously, that wasn't the response they wanted, thus, YCAGWYW!
The Chelsea Drugstore was in fact The Chelsea Drugstore, and not far from the flat on Edith Grove Mick shared with Keith and Brian.
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*these, not these ones
How about this one:
I saw him in Montreal with Strange sensation. He hit a MONSTER of a note during the opening No Quarter. My jaw dropped and I was stuck between laughter and awe.
If he can pit an effort like that into singing with, in comparison to James Page and James Baldwin, complete stooges, then he can totally get behind the bar with Zeppelin again.
It's always been about evolution. Get an embryonic process going, help the other three finish up the album, tweak it, jump into it and don't be afraid. It's very safe to ride into the sunset with threashing ore.
Hey ROBERT. Dwindlestraws. Don't be scared. Leo's screw things up in life by being overly defensive and relying on too much of a comfort zone. If you actually want to do this, don't expect your friends to beg, they'll just assume you don't wanna do it. 'Zeppelin? Anything is possible at any time.'
If you devote your energies to creating something with three other men wo aren't as afraid as you are to go for it, you'll feel guilty and as if you didn't belong. DON'T BE AFRAID. ROAR. GET IN THERE AND DO THE ALBUM AND THE TOUR. WE LOVE YOU, YOUR SINGING AND WHAT YOU BRING TO ZEP.
Would John want you to do it with his son? No brainer. Yes.
Do we want you to do it? Rhetorical question, still redundantly answered by a yes.
Does Jimmy want you to do it? Yup.
Does Jonesy want you to do it? YAH He said Good Times, Bad Times was his favorite song, boom from the get-go, and you all used it as an opener, cause he brings a very genuine enthusiasm to the table, a balanced one and a healthy one beyond reproach.
Does Jason want to do it? He bowed before you after the show, again, YES.
Do you want us all to start emailing individual petition signatures, signing a petition entitled 'Come hither mighty lion, let us pull the thorn fromyour ear, so you can hear'?
In other words, your solo stuff, will always be crap compared to Zep and therefore anything you do with Jimmu, John Paul and Jason will be better as well. It's like the rosetta stone translator opting to teach English as a Second Language in Japan instead of pursuing breakthrough research on newly found artifacts which could shed much light on ancient cultures. (SAJ edit: whatever the fuck that means)
Why don't you walk your talk and Shine it All Around for us? Remember that elogious speech about Jimmy? Can you say anything like that (remotely profound) about ANYBODY else you have worked with since Zep? HELL NO. Stop wasting your time. You ARE NOT STEVEN SEAGAL, STOP making B-C albums, we want the BEST OF YOU.
You aren't much without Zep and Zep ain't much without you. The understating tautology of the century, DUH AWARD 2008. So please, Robert, go out there and do the obvious, just do it only like you know how to do it. Knock us upside the head with some cool shit, some Robert Plant with Zep backing his talk up. SOME REAL MUSIC. We need it. Even if you don't tour. I WANT AN ALBUM.
93, Agape, Namaste, all the bullshit your pride feels like dismissing. When you're done mauling me, I'm still there asking you to sing with Zep!!!
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I got to know recently who a blonde woman holding the child who appeared briefly in John Paul's fantasy scene of TSRS was. It was my long term mystery. However why was it not Jimmy's scene but John Paul's ? Had Jimmy acknowledged it?
I know that the first movie director of TSRS and Charlotte were old friends. Did he take that scene?
All the fantasy sequences and concert reenactments (Shepperton Film Studios, Aug '74)
were filmed by Peter Clifton, who was brought in to finish what Joe Massot had started.
Jimmy's sequence really doesn't lend itself to the depiction of any outsiders. A "double"
was used as necessary for the angles depicting both Page and the lantern-holder within
the same frame.
Scroll back through this thread for John Paul Jones' gracious personal confirmation of exactly where his fantasy sequence was filmed.
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This post jogged my memory when Plant performed "Rockin' At Midnight, on SNL back in the 80's. Brian Setzer on guitar. Do you have any info in your vaults Steve, about how the two got along,etc. The stud cat and the stray cat. I could easily picture a fine album or two from these two collaborating.Just curious.To me it seems it could have been a tight fit. Apologies again if this horse has been shin kicked and traversed the track adnauseam.
They got along famously. Robert name-checked The Stray Cats more than once in his post-Zeppelin era interviews with 'Rumble In Brighton' specifically cited as a favorite.
The Stray Cats were enjoying remarkable singles chart success at the time.
Brian Setzer joined Robert not only on the Saturday Night Live telecast (12/15/84)
but during his next two North American tours: at the Meadowlands Arena (7/23/85)
for a jam session with Paul Schaefer & Bob Mayo on 'Honey Hush' (the same night
Jimmy Page joined during the encore for 'Mean Woman Blues' and 'Treat Her Right')
and at the The Forum in Inglewood (6/14//88) with Robbie Blunt for the encore of 'Money' and 'Gambler's Blues'.
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Excuse me for 'bursting into this conversation', I have read all 35 pages of it with great interest! I just want add...to the topic of EVH dissing Jimmy...I knew that...but 'somehow' I also knew that EVH eventually said "I was drunk when I said that" I'm sorry I can't post any sources, I looked high and low but couldn't find anything on the internet...but I think most of us would be willing to accept that as EVH's 'excuse' and form of 'apology'....
Yeah, Eddie and Jimmy are on good terms. They spent some time together in Autumn '91 when they both happened to be in Vancouver. Eddie also inducted Jimmy into the Hollywood Rock Walk in December 1993. Fast forward about ten years and Ross Halfin
says Eddie called their hotel about 50 times trying to catch up to Jimmy when he was back in town for a few days.
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Not sure if this is relevant or around the same time, but I do remember there being a radio broadcast where Robert was talking to Paul Schaeffer via his limo because he was stuck in traffic. I don't know if I still have it on cassette but if memory serves me (it was definitely 1985 though), he didn't make it in time. Again, I could be thinking of something else but I do know it was Paul he was speaking to via phone.
Many thanks for that; it certainly sounds relevant and if accurate further substantiates the story: forum member Heaven Knows (the event attendee) said Robert made an appearance at the Hard Rock Cafe in New York and performed with Paul Schaefer. Your
anecdote suggests the show in question aired live but calls into question if the jam ever aired or only the interview, on account of his being stuck in traffic (July 28 1985). I'd
sure like to get ahold of the tapes.
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Rockabilly Robert: The Tall Cool One Mystery
It's fairly well-known the track 'Billy's Revenge' on the 'Now & Zen' album was a deliberate attempt at rockabilly. I note the keyboards on the track 'Tall Cool One' seem to be inspired by a sturdy, driving riff from Johnny Burnett's 1956 rockabilly classic 'The Train Kept' A Rollin' and the lyrics seem to make a passing reference to the Charlie Feathers tune "One Hand Loose" of similar vintage. If 'Tall Cool One' was in fact inspired by Robert's affinity for rockabilly it would seem to refute speculation it was merely written with the infamous Coke commercial in mind.
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I'm still researching Schaeffer's program to confirm what the format was and if it aired live.
Paul Schaeffer's program was apparently not broadcast live in it's entirety. For example,
a 1986 interview he conducted with Paul Rodgers was pre-recorded backstage at the
Brendan Byrne Arena. This would mean July 28th 1985 could simply be the original air
date of a performance with Robert Plant recorded earlier as opposed to a live. However, given that Robert was touring the east coast that week it's quite possible it aired live.
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What Zeppelin Memorabilia do you Collect?
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1995 Jimmy Page/Robert Plant Tour Memorabilia
Courtesy of Steve A. Jones Archive