Patrycja Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Ok so I'm not sure that this is intended to generate a heap of conversation, but for the sake of honouring the deceased and acknowledging the tragedy, I thought it deserved its own space. The cynic in me can't help but be a little suspicious - it was a target rich environment, that plane - but as I've said on FB, it may just be that I need to vent. If anything untoward did occur, I don't expect it to come out for another fifty years or so. You know, like with the Katyn massacre (given the event they were traveling to commemmorate, eerie timing.) Anyway, please do have a look at the passenger list and maybe offer up an RIP. Thanks a lot. Much appreciated, fellow zepheads: http://www.krakowpost.com/article/2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfvr Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I saw that on the net today. The investigation will hopefully tell why the plane crashed which may or maynot be disclosed publicly. Poland will no doubt be in a state of mourning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walesdad Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Ok so I'm not sure that this is intended to generate a heap of conversation, but for the sake of honouring the deceased and acknowledging the tragedy, I thought it deserved its own space. The cynic in me can't help but be a little suspicious - it was a target rich environment, that plane - but as I've said on FB, it may just be that I need to vent. If anything untoward did occur, I don't expect it to come out for another fifty years or so. You know, like with the Katyn massacre (given the event they were traveling to commemmorate, eerie timing.) Anyway, please do have a look at the passenger list and maybe offer up an RIP. Thanks a lot. Much appreciated, fellow zepheads: http://www.krakowpost.com/article/2007 An awful event Patrycja and a tragedy for Poland.I sincerly hope that there is nothing suspicious about this,but I did find it strange that all these Polish dignitaries would be travelling at the same time in the same plane just in case of a tragedy like this occuring.Condolensces to your country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonzoLikeDrumer Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 Bad day for Poland indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted April 11, 2010 Share Posted April 11, 2010 I'm sorry, Patrycja xxxxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninelives Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Just so tragic and sad. My heart goes out to them xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetleron Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 terrible story i feel bad about it..........any tragedy like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrycja Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 Such a void this has created. So very sad. Yeah I don't know why they were all on one plane either. I mean there were three planes that flew to Smolensk. Couldn't they have just spread the dignitaries around?? Thanks everybody, greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Such a void this has created. So very sad. Yeah I don't know why they were all on one plane either. I mean there were three planes that flew to Smolensk. Couldn't they have just spread the dignitaries around?? Thanks everybody, greatly appreciated. Not trying to read more into this tragedy than there is but, all of them being on the same plane does make you wonder. Not the normal protocal I would think and there will be plenty of questions as to why they were ! A terrible tragedy none the less Pat and I'm sorry for the sadness that has been inflicted on our Polish community Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrycja Posted April 12, 2010 Author Share Posted April 12, 2010 Not trying to read more into this tragedy than there is but, all of them being on the same plane does make you wonder. Not the normal protocal I would think and there will be plenty of questions as to why they were ! A terrible tragedy none the less Pat and I'm sorry for the sadness that has been inflicted on our Polish community Oh believe me, Ally, you're not saying anything many aren't thinking. That Putin has put himself at the head of the investigation into the crash hardly instills confidence. Sober skepticism of his policies/influence has been dearly bought. But anyway, we'll see what the investigation(s) reveal. Like you said, now is the time for paying our respects. TY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunacy Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Will trigger WWIII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Oh believe me, Ally, you're not saying anything many aren't thinking. That Putin has put himself at the head of the investigation into the crash hardly instills confidence. Sober skepticism of his policies/influence has been dearly bought. But anyway, we'll see what the investigation(s) reveal. Like you said, now is the time for paying our respects. TY. We'll discuss this more when the investigation begins. As for now, yes, respects need to be paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrycja Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 Some news: Canada announces Thursday April 15 as National Day of Mourning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Poland just has the worst fuckin' luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrycja Posted April 17, 2010 Author Share Posted April 17, 2010 Ok well so the funeral for President Kaczynski and his wife, Maria, will be held this Sunday at 8am (EST) in Wawel Castle. Controversy about the burial site notwithstanding, the family seems adamant about going ahead with it on this day despite the giant cloud of volcanic ash spreading its way across Europe and beyond. This could of course alter plans of foreign dignitaries, or endanger them, God forbid. Anyway, I hope everything goes smoothly for these air travelers. And to think the Polish president and his party were originally to have taken a train... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagefan55 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Poland just has the worst fuckin' luck. How true. It seems like few people today even remember the Katyn forest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 How true. It seems like few people today even remember the Katyn forest.... I wasn't around when it happened but I read about it in a Russian history class at university. IIRC, the NKVD (Soviet intelligence during World War II) massacred a group of Polish military officers and resistance leaders. The Soviets were thinking ahead. They knew they wanted to control Poland once the war ended. They killed the people who could best fight Soviet domination of Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagefan55 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I wasn't around when it happened but I read about it in a Russian history class at university. IIRC, the NKVD (Soviet intelligence during World War II) massacred a group of Polish military officers and resistance leaders. The Soviets were thinking ahead. They knew they wanted to control Poland once the war ended. They killed the people who could best fight Soviet domination of Poland. You nailed it. Most of the roughly 15,000 massacred Polish officers were reservists who acted as the civil/social elite of Poland during peacetime. (A huge number of the murdered Polish officers were judges, doctors, lawyers, civil servants, aristocrats, etc.) So by conducting the massacre, the Soviets simultaneously decapitated a huge percentage of Poland's military and civil elite in one fell swoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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