Matjaz1 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Geezer you didn't disprove anything, you just can't accept that Robert doesn't want to be in Zep and you are using ridiculous claims, trying to prove that Robert Plant should do what Geezer wants and that if he doesn't, he is not a good person, while in fact he is still obviously far better then most!! What if he would start to tell you what you should do!? How would that make you feel!? He is doing what he wants in a noble way! And I'm not delusional, my life success proves that! Victor, Robert had no desire to be a golden god! He simply had that voice and he used it! Good post Deborah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Are you literally 5 years old? Where did I say he is not a good person? I did not even mention his not being in Zep. I merely refuted your ludicrous statement that he has stopped making money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 How old do you have to be, to be making things up? You tell me, because I never said he stopped making money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I said:I already refuted your absurd statement that he's not intending to make money.And you replied:What have we learned? Geezer is pissed on people that are making a lot of money differently then he imagines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Where does that state he stopped making money!?? And I meant in that sentence that he has become a star in the Zep days, but that there are different ways of wanting to become that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 And he didn't intentionally become less successful, he just did what he wanted and now has a smaller audience, even if he won awards and had hits!Do you know why he has a small audience? Because he plays in small arenas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I'm going to the seaside in ten minutes, so I dont have more time! But what you just did is disgusting! You actuallly changed your post, after I posted mine! You changed the same minute, you bastard, but you still did! You left your statement the same, but you changed mine, but it still it doesn't change anything! I never said he stopped making money! You just ran out of good arguments and are trying to picture me as immature or delusional! Goodbye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie0024 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matjaz1 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Artist play in venues they can fill!! I really have to go to now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah J Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Hi Matjaz1,, Thanks for the kind comment a few post back. Geezer, you have made it so clear as to how you feel about Robert's direction in music. But for the sake of hopefully providing a point that Robert's opinion in regards to music has not changed. He has always been about growing in a musical direction. Then add the fact that they lost Bonham and they all as a group decided that Led Zeppelin as it was could not go on. I admire them for that decision. Yes, they did the 02 concert for a very great and meaningful cause and Jason got to have his dream come true. I have said this in the past and I believe that when all is said and done, Robert will be respected for wanting to keep that legacy. In the music industry he is IMHO a great leader and example for many! No John Bonham, no Led Zeppelin!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 But what you just did is disgusting! You actuallly changed your post, after I posted mine! You changed the same minute, you bastard, but you still did!I'm calling this bullshit. Show me your cards.Deborah, do you realize that I've never even mentioned that Robert should be with Zep? You can even go to the New Box Sets thread and see me defending Robert for NOT reuniting with Zep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 What have we learned? Geezer is pissed on people that are making a lot of money differently then he imagines? I guess he is just not high enough to decide the way some one should be making it for him! But being high enough, can certainly prevent you from earning it yourself! Don't mind geezer,ignore him. All he has been doing is causing trouble the last week with posters and he has been reported Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I'm going to the seaside in ten minutes, so I dont have more time! But what you just did is disgusting! You actuallly changed your post, after I posted mine! You changed the same minute, you bastard, but you still did! You left your statement the same, but you changed mine, but it still it doesn't change anything! I never said he stopped making money! You just ran out of good arguments and are trying to picture me as immature or delusional! Goodbye! Please report geezer,I and others have. He clearly has a mental problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I'm fairly sure it's you who has a mental problem. Couple that with your unbelievably putrid comments and I believe it's clear who should be reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Don't mind geezer,ignore him. All he has been doing is causing trouble the last week with posters and he has been reportedDid someone piss in your cheerios, you dolt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDave Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Did someone piss in your cheerios, you dolt? Oh that's real nice! What a classy thing to say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 If the Stones didn't call on Mick Taylor to take part in this tour, no one would have cared. Bill Wyman was upset that they brought him out for a couple of songs and refused to do any more shows with them. I think RP has kept a pulse on what's going on in music, and just wants to go where the journey takes him. The funny thing is Tom Jones (of all people) is on that same journey Robert's on. I don't know if Sir Percy can teach CEOs anything, but integrity of the art, the passion for music, and keeping it interesting for himself makes him a shining example for artists of any age to follow their passions. The end of Led Zeppelin was the end of one chapter and the beginning of another. To be able to transition, Bowie has always been through a series of transitions, but out of his peers? Peter Gabriel is about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janvier Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I disagree that Robert Plant plays only small venues. The HSBC arena in Brazil accommodates around 15.000; the Gigantinho in Porto Alegre and the Auditorio Nacional in Mexico City 10,000 each, while the Luna Park has a capacity of 8,000. The Expominas in Belo Horizonte has 50,000 seats, but if I recall correctly the place was sectioned in halves (or thirds) Plant didn't occupy the place in its entirety. The smallest venue was the Teatro Guaira in Curitiba, with 2,000 seats. The point I'm trying to make is Robert Plant doesn't play small venues all the time. On the issue of "making money" out of touring and playing with the Sensational Space Shifters frankly it's a topic that doesn't interest me, whether he's being financially successful that's of concern to his accountants only, I'm only interested in his music. I would agree with Matjaz where he says: "doing exactly what you want is the very core of art!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Can you bring an example of a musician who does NOT do what he/she wants? Because you guys are talking about Plant as some sort of a unique person in that aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Geezer is your intent here to cause trouble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Why is she calling me mentally ill? It's clear who should be banned. Everything was fine until she came along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I would agree that that's a bit of an exaggeration, but saying "Did somebody piss in your cheerios, you dolt?" and your argument with MatJaz1 is clearly a reason to be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Let me rebut and say that clw's posts are a lot bigger reason to be banned.And my argument with Matjaz is a reason to be banned? Can you please explain?A guy who says things like this:"What have we learned? Geezer is pissed on people that are making a lot of money differently then he imagines? I guess he is just not high enough to decide the way some one should be making it for him!""And I'm not delusional, my life success proves that!""But what you just did is disgusting! You actuallly changed your post, after I posted mine! You changed the same minute, you bastard, but you still did!"I think I'm done arguing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledzepfilm Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 1) clw is just a curious member who likes Robert. There was no trouble involving her until you inserted your $0.02. I've told you in our PMs to stop and you kept going, digging yourself deeper into a hole that shouldn't of been started. 2) "Are you on drugs? I think you are." is clearly my proof. Do you seriously think that MatJaz1 is going to agree with what you're saying? This is a forum and everyone has the right to have their own opinion. I'm not saying that that argument in particular is a reason to be banned, but many of your feuds contribute more reasoning towards this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezer Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 ledzepfilm, did you even read the argument? He TOTALLY misinterpreted what I said then based a large portion of his argument over that.Who in their right mind would say Robert did not enjoy success outside of Zep? This is a complete absurd and anyone who's looked at the charts will attest to that.But I guess this is some next-level fanboyism. Giving credit for EVERYTHING. Unfortunately, this forum is getting fraught with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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