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About the charges of plagiarism.  But what if Zep had done an album or 5 of covers of their contemporaries?   For example?  A Zep version of Locomotive Breath?  Or perhaps, Every Time I Roll the Dice?  Working Man?  Or how about Plant singing Cherry Bomb (Jones wearing out a mandolin!!)?  Or, Glory Days?   Superstition?  My head spins.....

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I’m struggling to think of any artist that has done this. Albums of older covers are common obviously, but not contemporaneous ones

sounds like a terrible idea to me

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21 hours ago, rose62 said:

About the charges of plagiarism.  But what if Zep had done an album or 5 of covers of their contemporaries?   For example?  A Zep version of Locomotive Breath?  Or perhaps, Every Time I Roll the Dice?  Working Man?  Or how about Plant singing Cherry Bomb (Jones wearing out a mandolin!!)?  Or, Glory Days?   Superstition?  My head spins.....

You are trying to be funny? Led Zeppelin was not a cover band, it had it's own unique musical vision. Granted, other people's influence and material was incorporated into that vision.

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22 hours ago, rose62 said:

About the charges of plagiarism.  But what if Zep had done an album or 5 of covers of their contemporaries?   For example?  A Zep version of Locomotive Breath?  Or perhaps, Every Time I Roll the Dice?  Working Man?  Or how about Plant singing Cherry Bomb (Jones wearing out a mandolin!!)?  Or, Glory Days?   Superstition?  My head spins.....

They wouldn’t have. They weren’t a cover band or a singles band either.

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Obviously they weren't a cover band.  I'm just saying that there are a lot of songs that I really like that Zep could do so much better.  I think of Trampled Under Foot and then of Locomotive Breath.  Kind of a similar groove and Plant singing those lyrics would be awesome. 

In the shuffling madness
Of the locomotive breath
Runs the all-time loser
Headlong to his death

Oh, he feels the piston scraping
Steam breaking on his brow
Old Charlie stole the handle
And the train — it won't stop going
No way to slow down

He sees his children jumping off
At the stations one by one
His woman and his best friend
In bed and having fun

Oh, he's crawling down the corridor
On his hands and knees
Old Charlie stole the handle and
The train — it won't stop going
No way to slow down

He hears the silence howling
Catches angels as they fall
And the all-time winner
Has got him by the balls

Oh, he picks up Gideon's Bible
Open at page one
I thank God he stole the handle and
The train — it won't stop going
No way to slow down

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Rose62 can you give us any examples of any band that hVe done contemporaneous covers?

Zeppelin weren’t known for being fans of Tull. Plant and Ian Anderson had a bit of a falling out once. And there’s the comment Page(?) made about a live recording in L.A, referring to it as “Bore ’em at the Forum” So I think the chances of them doing Locomotive Breath were probably nil

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Hey, just a fan spitballing.  After all, Zep didn't write every great song, just most of them. 

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On 6/3/2020 at 1:58 AM, jsj said:

Zeppelin weren’t known for being fans of Tull. Plant and Ian Anderson had a bit of a falling out once. And there’s the comment Page(?) made about a live recording in L.A, referring to it as “Bore ’em at the Forum” So I think the chances of them doing Locomotive Breath were probably nil

Plant and Anderson were both born and raised in the Midlands. It's a birthright for Midlanders to mock each other. I'd be more surprised if they didn't.

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I seem to remember Ian Anderson having a dig at Planty in the press for being a tax exile

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I would add that Zeppelin may have been somewhat wary of Tull back in the day. Tull supported on Zeppelin gigs through the Summer 69 tour. In some instances Tull received very favorable reviews; at times it was reported that Tull outshined Zeppelin.

As preposterous is it may sound now that we know how great Zeppelin became, place yourself back in 1969, even before LZ II was released. How confident was anyone that Zeppelin would become the greatest rock band of all time? No one was. I just rewatched the Plant/Page NYC 1970 press conference where Jimmy states no one knew it would be like this, or words to that effect.

My observation is that part of the reason Zeppelin started putting on shows with no support acts from 1970 is that they witnessed firsthand how a headliner can be upstaged. They themselves did it to Iron Butterfly and Vanilla Fudge. What better way to guarantee it would never happen to them than to go without support acts? Yes, it gave them the freedom to play as long as they pleased - their primary stated reason (not to mention arrive whenever they pleased), but again consider the mentality in 1970. I'd venture to say there was a rivalry and wariness toward Tull.

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