rose62 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 About the charges of plagiarism. But what if Zep had done an album or 5 of covers of their contemporaries? For example? A Zep version of Locomotive Breath? Or perhaps, Every Time I Roll the Dice? Working Man? Or how about Plant singing Cherry Bomb (Jones wearing out a mandolin!!)? Or, Glory Days? Superstition? My head spins..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigante Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsj Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I’m struggling to think of any artist that has done this. Albums of older covers are common obviously, but not contemporaneous ones sounds like a terrible idea to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 21 hours ago, rose62 said: About the charges of plagiarism. But what if Zep had done an album or 5 of covers of their contemporaries? For example? A Zep version of Locomotive Breath? Or perhaps, Every Time I Roll the Dice? Working Man? Or how about Plant singing Cherry Bomb (Jones wearing out a mandolin!!)? Or, Glory Days? Superstition? My head spins..... You are trying to be funny? Led Zeppelin was not a cover band, it had it's own unique musical vision. Granted, other people's influence and material was incorporated into that vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reids Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 22 hours ago, rose62 said: About the charges of plagiarism. But what if Zep had done an album or 5 of covers of their contemporaries? For example? A Zep version of Locomotive Breath? Or perhaps, Every Time I Roll the Dice? Working Man? Or how about Plant singing Cherry Bomb (Jones wearing out a mandolin!!)? Or, Glory Days? Superstition? My head spins..... They wouldn’t have. They weren’t a cover band or a singles band either. R😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rose62 Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Obviously they weren't a cover band. I'm just saying that there are a lot of songs that I really like that Zep could do so much better. I think of Trampled Under Foot and then of Locomotive Breath. Kind of a similar groove and Plant singing those lyrics would be awesome. In the shuffling madnessOf the locomotive breathRuns the all-time loserHeadlong to his deathOh, he feels the piston scrapingSteam breaking on his browOld Charlie stole the handleAnd the train — it won't stop goingNo way to slow downHe sees his children jumping offAt the stations one by oneHis woman and his best friendIn bed and having funOh, he's crawling down the corridorOn his hands and kneesOld Charlie stole the handle andThe train — it won't stop goingNo way to slow downHe hears the silence howlingCatches angels as they fallAnd the all-time winnerHas got him by the ballsOh, he picks up Gideon's BibleOpen at page oneI thank God he stole the handle andThe train — it won't stop goingNo way to slow down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsj Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Rose62 can you give us any examples of any band that hVe done contemporaneous covers? Zeppelin weren’t known for being fans of Tull. Plant and Ian Anderson had a bit of a falling out once. And there’s the comment Page(?) made about a live recording in L.A, referring to it as “Bore ’em at the Forum” So I think the chances of them doing Locomotive Breath were probably nil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rose62 Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 Hey, just a fan spitballing. After all, Zep didn't write every great song, just most of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 On 6/3/2020 at 1:58 AM, jsj said: Zeppelin weren’t known for being fans of Tull. Plant and Ian Anderson had a bit of a falling out once. And there’s the comment Page(?) made about a live recording in L.A, referring to it as “Bore ’em at the Forum” So I think the chances of them doing Locomotive Breath were probably nil Plant and Anderson were both born and raised in the Midlands. It's a birthright for Midlanders to mock each other. I'd be more surprised if they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsj Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I seem to remember Ian Anderson having a dig at Planty in the press for being a tax exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zep Hed Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I would add that Zeppelin may have been somewhat wary of Tull back in the day. Tull supported on Zeppelin gigs through the Summer 69 tour. In some instances Tull received very favorable reviews; at times it was reported that Tull outshined Zeppelin. As preposterous is it may sound now that we know how great Zeppelin became, place yourself back in 1969, even before LZ II was released. How confident was anyone that Zeppelin would become the greatest rock band of all time? No one was. I just rewatched the Plant/Page NYC 1970 press conference where Jimmy states no one knew it would be like this, or words to that effect. My observation is that part of the reason Zeppelin started putting on shows with no support acts from 1970 is that they witnessed firsthand how a headliner can be upstaged. They themselves did it to Iron Butterfly and Vanilla Fudge. What better way to guarantee it would never happen to them than to go without support acts? Yes, it gave them the freedom to play as long as they pleased - their primary stated reason (not to mention arrive whenever they pleased), but again consider the mentality in 1970. I'd venture to say there was a rivalry and wariness toward Tull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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