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My fella and I had this discussion briefly one night as we watched Looney Tunes. As me own mother watched Looney Tunes when she was a child, no doubt the Zep members like them too. I mean, many people do.

My fella pointed out that Zep is supposed to like Python. Well, it makes sense... again, many people do.

Probably obvious, as in, "Well, of course they like Python! Who doesn't like Looney Tunes?" generally... just wondering if anyone has heard that they share a common bond with us... and not necessarily comedy or cartoons, could be anything...

It's just a cool feeling to think... I'm watching something right now, I wonder what Jimmy/Robert/Jonesy etc. would think of this/if they liked it when they were kids/have seen it?? :)

ETA: Grammar police! I need to wake up. I pride myself in knowing the difference between their, they're and there... and here I mess it up in the topic title. :wacko: Wish I could edit that...

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When Robert and Maureen arrived at Old Hyde Farm to deliver the devestating news of

John's death, Jason was in the living room watching 'Blue Peter' when they walked in.

This from Wikipedia:

Blue Peter is a popular BBC television programme for children and the world's longest running children's television series. It is shown on Children's BBC, both in its BBC One programming block and on the CBBC Channel.

It is named after the blue-and-white flag hoisted by a ship in port when it is ready to sail. The reasoning behind the choice of title is that the programme is intended to be a voyage of adventure and discovery for the viewers, constantly covering new topics.

The signature tune, in recognition of the origin of the title, is a sea shanty called "Barnacle Bill", and the programme's motif is a stylised sailing ship designed by Tony Hart. Hart's original design was never successfully used in a totally uniform fashion, with several different reproductions used in studio, on badges, the Blue Peter books and on-screen graphics. This was until the show's redesign in 1999, when the ship's rigging and hull detail was removed, and in 2000, the flags were subtly reshaped. This version is still in use today, and now appears across all media (although the revised badges retain the old-style flags).

On Thursday 16 October 2008, Blue Peter will celebrate its 50th birthday.

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John Paul Jones fantasy sequence in The Song Remains The Same was inspired by the Disney adaptation of Doctor Syn, however he could not get permission to use it outright.

Doctor Syn

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The Reverend Doctor Christopher Syn is the smuggler hero of a series of novels by Russell Thorndike. The first book in this series, Doctor Syn: A Tale of the Romney Marsh was published in 1915.

Character biography

Christopher Syn was a brilliant scholar who also possessed many swashbuckling skills such as riding, fencing, and seamanship. He was content to live the quiet life of a country vicar in Dymchurch-under-the Sea under the patronage of Sir Charles Cobtree, the father of his best friend Anthony Cobtree, until his beautiful young Spanish wife Imogene was seduced by and eloped with Nicholas Tappitt, whom Dr. Syn had considered a close friend.

Christopher Syn set out on a quest for revenge, always managing in a deliberate campaign to reach the eloped pair's destinations ahead of them just in time to terrify them against landing and facing him. While sailing from Spain to America in pursuit of them, his ship was captured by the pirate ship The Sulphur Pit, commanded by the Negro pirate Captain Satan. In a one-on-one fight, Syn defeated and killed Captain Satan to take command of his ship and crew, among whom was Mr. Mipps, a former Royal Navy ship's carpenter with whom Syn had become friends back in England after rescuing Mipps from the Customs men and who had sworn loyalty to Syn from that time onward.

With Mipps at his side, Dr. Syn turned to piracy and became a great success, but when his crew refused to allow him to leave them, Syn and Mipps quietly slipped away in one of the ship's boats; unknown to Syn, Mipps had arranged a convenient "accident" in the ship's powder hold with an exploding barrel of gunpowder, eliminating all witnesses who could tell of Syn's piratic acts.

Mr. Mipps then joined Dr. Syn in his quest for revenge, pursuing Tappitt and Imogene throughout the thirteen American colonies (supposedly to preach the gospel to the Indians) and around the world (as part of a whaling voyage) afterwards, and was with him in the Caribbean when Dr. Syn turned again to piracy, assuming the name of Captain Clegg (taking the name "Clegg" from a certain vicious biting fly he had encountered in America), hijacking his enemy Tappitt's own ship and crew and sailing off with them (renaming the ship the Imogene) to become the most infamous pirate of the day.

However, a mulatto who escaped the destruction of Syn's previous ship stowed away in Clegg's ship and accused him before the crew; Captain Clegg quelled the potential mutiny by having the mulatto's tongue cut out, marooning him on a coral reef and violently killing Yellow Pete, the ship's Chinese cook, who represented the crew in their wish to rescue the mulatto. Afterwards, realizing that Captain Clegg had become too notorious, Dr. Syn decided to abandon his quest and return to England, and Mipps set up a second "accidental" explosion to destroy the Imogene and her crew.

Christopher Syn returned to England on the night of a terrible storm which wrecked the brig he was traveling on off the coast of England just within sight of Dymchurch, leaving him the only survivor. He managed to reach the shore safely and that same night turned up at the house of his old friend (and now Squire) Anthony Cobtree. When news came that that the local vicar had drowned while trying to save victims of the shipwreck, Squire Cobtree offered the post to Christopher Syn. Syn accepted and settled down to a more respectable life as the vicar of Dymchurch and Dean of Peculiars in Romney Marsh, Kent, resuming his original name.

Soon after, Mr. Mipps arrived in Dymchurch with the intent of settling down, and Doctor Syn made him the village sexton upon condition that Mipps "remember to forget" (that Syn had been Clegg and that they had known each other before), and that Mipps never get involved with the local smugglers.

Dr. Syn soon became aware that his parishioners were smuggling goods from France to avoid the extravagant customs duties the government charged. Learning from Mr. Mipps (who, contrary to Syn's orders, had become a leader of the smugglers) that certain townsfolk had been ambushed and captured during a smuggling run, Christopher Syn purchased the great black stallion Gehenna from a band of gypsies and raced to their rescue. A suit of clothing borrowed from a scarecrow made an improvised disguise, and Syn and Mipps were able to rescue the townsfolk from the Dragoons.

After this, Doctor Syn decided that he could only protect his people by becoming their leader. He created a more elaborate scarecrow costume, complete with eerie luminous paint. At night riding Gehenna, the respectable Dr. Christopher Syn became "The Scarecrow", the feared head of the smugglers. Together with Mr. Mipps, he organized the smugglers into a well-organized band of "night riders", called "The Devil Riders" with macabre disguises and code-names.

Syn's cunning was so great that the smugglers outwitted the government forces for many years. A hidden stable watched over by Mother Handaway, the local "witch" (who believed The Scarecrow to be The Devil in living form), was the hiding place for the horses of The Scarecrow and his lieutenants Mr. Mipps and the local highwayman Jimmie Bone (who, being as good a horseman as Dr. Syn, was sometimes called upon to impersonate The Scarecrow when Dr. Syn either had to be elsewhere or seen in the same place as The Scarecrow).

Shortly after the first appearances of The Scarecrow, Nicholas Tappitt (using the name "Colonel Delacourt") and the ailing Imogene returned to England, ending up in Dymchurch. Recognizing Syn as Captain Clegg, Tappitt realized that Syn and The Scarecrow were one and the same and helped the authorities set a trap for The Scarecrow, hoping to both rid himself of his enemy and claim the reward for The Scarecrow's capture. The trap was sprung, but Squire Cobtree's daughter Charlotte, who had fallen in love with Dr. Syn and also learned his secret identities as both Captain Clegg and The Scarecrow, was the tragic victim when she dressed in The Scarecrow's disguise and was fatally wounded in Syn's place. Tappitt was then suspected of being The Scarecrow, and a Customs officer and three constables came to arrest him. In the ensuing fight, Tappitt killed the Customs man and the constables subdued and arrested Tappitt for murdering the Customs officer.

After Imogene's death in Syn's arms (during which she revealed to him that he had a son by her who was missing somewhere in America), Syn fought a final duel with Tappitt in his jail cell, defeating him. Syn then struck a bargain with Tappitt: If Tappitt confessed to being the notorious pirate Captain Clegg, then Syn would look after and care for Tappitt and Imogene's new-born infant daughter (also named Imogene). Tappitt agreed, and "Captain Clegg" was hanged and later "buried without benefit of clergy at a cross-roads hard by the Kent Ditch."

Many years later, Captain Collyer, a Royal Navy officer assigned to smash the local smuggling ring, uncovered the deception and Dr. Syn's true identity, thanks in part to the tongueless mulatto (who had been rescued by Collyer years before and who had been serving Collyer as a "ferret" seeking out hidden contraband) who recognized Syn as Captain Clegg. Syn evaded capture while at the same time making sure that Imogene and Squire Cobtree's son Dennis (who had fallen in love with Imogene) would have a happy life together (they were eventually married), but was murdered in revenge by the mulatto, who then mysteriously managed to escape, leaving Syn harpooned through the neck. As a last mark of respect, Collyer ordered that Syn be buried at sea, rather than have his body hung in chains.

Mr. Mipps escaped in the confusion of Syn's death and disappeared from England, but it is said that a little man very much like him is living out his days in a Buddhist Monastery somewhere in the Malay Peninsula, delighting the monks with recounting the adventures of Doctor Syn and the eerie stories of the Romney Marsh and the mysterious Scarecrow and his night riders.

Publication history

The Dr. Syn books detail his adventures and attempts to evade the Excise. There are seven novels in the series written by Thorndike:

Doctor Syn: A Tale of the Romney Marsh (1915)

Doctor Syn on the High Seas (1935)

Doctor Syn Returns (1936)

Further Adventures of Doctor Syn (1936)

Courageous Exploits of Doctor Syn (1938)

Amazing Quest of Doctor Syn (1939)

Shadow of Doctor Syn (1944)

An expanded version of Doctor Syn Returns titled The Scarecrow Rides was published by The Dial Press in 1935.

In 1960 American author William Buchanan used the character in his novel Christopher Syn. This is essentially a reworking of Further Adventures of Doctor Syn with a different conclusion and some conflation and renaming of the supporting characters. Christopher Syn became the basis for the 1962 Disney production (see below). There was also a book adaptation of the Disney theatrical version. This was titled Doctor Syn, Alias the Scarecrow and was written by Vic Crume.

Dramatic Adaptations

Three film adaptations have been made of Dr. Syn's exploits. The first, Doctor Syn (1937), featured noted actor George Arliss in the title role and was its star's last film. The second, The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh, was produced as a three-part television miniseries by Walt Disney in 1964 and starred Patrick McGoohan of Danger Man/Secret Agent and The Prisoner fame in the title role (it was re-edited and released theatrically about six years later with the title, The miniseries version was originally shown on the Disney anthology television series and shown again, unedited, in the 1990's on the Disney Channel. This version followed the storyline - more or less - of The Further Adventures of Dr. Syn and made it quite clear that Syn did not die (at film's end, he is seen waving goodbye to some Britishers fleeing to the American colonies, and he never stages his own death in this version).

That same year Captain Clegg (released as Night Creatures in the US) was produced by Hammer Film Productions with horror movie actor Peter Cushing in the lead role. The main character's name was changed from Doctor Syn to Parson Blyss to avoid rights problems with Disney's competing film version released in the same time period, and Captain Clegg's screenplay follows the novel Doctor Syn very closely with the exception of a tightening of the plot and a darker ending; in Doctor Syn Syn escapes to sea with Mr. Mipps and the rest of the Dymchurch smugglers, whereas Captain Clegg ends with Parson Blyss being killed by the mulatto (who is then killed by Mr. Mipps) and then being carried to and buried by Mr. Mipps in Captain Clegg's empty grave.

In 2001 the first ever stage adaptation was performed at churches throughout the Romney Marsh, the final night being performed in Dymchurch itself. The cast combined professional actors such as Daniel Thorndike (the author's son), Michael Fields, Steven Povey and Ben Barton, along with various amateurs from the marshes. Although covered heavily by the press and filmed, pressure from Walt Disney (who still own all rights) has ensured that this production will never be released on video.

Rufus Sewell read a 10-part audio adaptation of Doctor Syn (combining and abridging Doctor Syn on the High Seas and Doctor Syn Returns) for BBC Radio, broadcast on BBC Radio 7 in December 2006 and repeated in June 2007. A 10-part audio adaptation of The Further Adventures of Doctor Syn (combining and abridging The Further Adventures of Doctor Syn and The Shadow of Doctor Syn) read by Rufus Sewell was performed on BBC Radio 7 in December 2007.

John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin reinterpreted elements of the Doctor Syn story as his "No Quarter" fantasy sequence in Led Zeppelin's concert film The Song Remains the Same.

Cultural Legacy

Dr. Syn's Scarecrow guise was one of the earliest examples a hero who dawned a mask to hide his true identity. He may have been inspired by Baroness Emmuska Orczy's The Scarlet Pimpernel, and in turn influenced the development of Johnston McCulley's Zorro, Batman and other masked heroes who were to follow in pulp magazines and comic books.

The "Days of Syn" festival is held every even-numbered year (e.g. 2004) by the residents of Dymchurch for fund-raising purposes. The 2006 "Days of Syn" was on 26th-28th of August (UK August Bank Holiday weekend) and featured a talk on Dr. Syn at the Anglican church at 6.30pm, on Sunday at 3pm there was a church service where Dr. Syn and the cast appeared in period costume and on Monday starting at the Bowery Hall scenes were reenacted from Dr. Syn and during the day along the Dymchurch shoreline and in the Ocean pub.

Dr. Syn is mentioned in Alan Moore's The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. He was a member of an 18th century league that predated the one led by Mina Murray. His role as such is expounded upon in the most recent installment of the series, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Black Dossier.

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