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Everything posted by blindwillie127

  1. Trentham Gardens '73 was Multi Tracked

    I am convinced that Southampton was not the only show multi tracked by Eddie Kramer during their '73 UK run. Not only is Trentham a superior performance but it is recorded better than Southampton. Sounds like an unbalanced rough mix from a multi track to me. No way in hell this is a soundboard. Nope.
  2. Trentham Gardens '73 was Multi Tracked

    If anybody wants to gets their mind blown, I suggest putting on some headphones and listen to TSRTS from this show.
  3. Trentham Gardens '73 was Multi Tracked

    Very good connection there, glad you caught that. Its also a very good first post. Welcome to the Forum.
  4. Trentham Gardens '73 was Multi Tracked

    Somebody please go to 1:09:20 and crank it the fuck up for a while! Then, come back and tell me that this doesn't sound like a multi track. I'm sticking to my theory that Eddie Kramer recorded this show before Southampton.
  5. Trentham Gardens '73 was Multi Tracked

    I agree with some of this, but not all. I personally hear "sonic benefits" that separate this recording from other sbds during U.K./tour. And, I think you're giving way too much credit to Winston for their remastering prowess. They're good, but there's only so much you can do with remastering anything. You can make it worse, or you can make it better, but you can't make it amazing. There's some amazing shit here from what ever source this is from. Also, I think the chances that this was multi tracked is much better than "slim to none" is because I was always baffled why they had Kramer recording them at Southampton to begin with it. I've always found that odd. Having Kramer record a couple shows though thru this local run makes much more sense to me. This is pure speculation, but imagine this: Both Hampton & Trentham were multi tracked by Kramer. Hampton was released as a rough mix because the performance wasn't worthy of being officially released. But, Trentham was held back for a future release down the road because it was too fucking good to give it up just yet.
  6. Trentham Gardens '73 was Multi Tracked

    Its at 30 minutes in
  7. Trentham Gardens '73 was Multi Tracked

    Dude! I fucking dare you to play Dancing Day's from this show and crank it the fuck up. I dare ya........you'll see
  8. Trentham Gardens '73 was Multi Tracked

    I seriously have no doubt about it. The level of clarity and detail on the drums screams multi track to my ears. And, this could be the D&C Page recently spoke about listening to from '73, as opposed to Southampton as well.
  9. What Are You Listening To At This Moment?

    Judge Roy Moore's favorite song
  10. It Makes Me Wonder

    Thinking about why LZ never played 'The Ocean' again after the '73 tour. Also wonder why Dancing Days was never played post '73 as well. They're not very complicated songs to play and they're both uplifting/fun vibes and just fucking rocked live!. Dancing Days is probably the only song LZ ever played twice in the same concert (Seattle '72) because (according to Plant) "we like playing this song so much we're gonna play it again". So, why'd they permanently drop these two songs?
  11. It Makes Me Wonder

    ^ Agreed! What I loved about The Ocean as the encore song in '73 is that it wasn't intense or exploratory, just a great way to relieve the pressure/have some quick fun/flash some smiles and call it a night. Never liked RR as an encore to be honest, loved it as an opener when they played it with that slow swagger though. I imagine that the only reason OTHAFA stayed in their setlist was because the band turned that pretty song into dark fucking storm during the solo, otherwise, no way in hell it would have remained in their set past '73. Also willing to bet that Plant tried like hell to drop the song but the band would have none of that shit. And thank god for that
  12. Chris Squire Rumours

    My old guitar teacher used to play in a local fusion band back in the late 80's/early 90's. He told me about the time Chris Squire "demanded" to sit in with the band. Long story short: Squire was "shit faced drunk"....it did not go well, but they weren't about to refuse a jam with a legend such as Squire, who would?
  13. Led Zeppelin or Related on YouTube

    Sounds to me like the outro riff from LZ's Swan Song was the influence for this track's main groove. Starts at 1:06
  14. Zeppelin's official live recordings

    How can you omit TSRTS? Anyways, it could have been a hell of a lot worse. Take, for example...ZZ Top. They were one of the biggest and best bands throughout the 70's and they multi tracked 'one' show in '74 that culminated into only 3 live songs for the first side of their Fandango album, second half was studio tracks. Thats ZZ Tops only live multi tracked audio we have from the 70's. There is literally zero video of ZZ Top in the 70's aside from about 4 mins of the end of their '77 show in Houston on new years eve, and another 3 mins of Chevrolet in '76. That adds up to a whole 7 minutes of ZZ Tops entire amazing run through the 1970's that to this day is available for viewing. In comparison, Zeppelin fans have it pretty damn good.

    My current favorite. Its a fair audience recording, but the performance is just stunning. It may not be the best, but its way the fuck up there.
  16. What Are You Listening To At This Moment?

    Eric Gales is just mind-blowing man.
  17. Sorry man, didn't mean to upset you . Anyways, the guy's entitled to his opinion...and Fuck Him!!!
  18. Bruce Springsteen interview 1975: "They're like a lot of those groups. Not only aren't they not doing anything new, they don't do the old stuff so good, either." He also said: "looks like the Zeppelin boys need to do some more rehearsing, they can't seem to remember how their own songs are supposed to be played".
  19. Fair enough. But I still disagree with your assertion that the reason Plant was no longer into performing the song live was due to Page's subpar solo's. The way I see it is that the song got too damn big (much like Zeppelin as a band did relatively speaking). Some people embrace that kind of success, others push back against it. After Plant's son died, he pretty much "pushed back" against Zeppelins monumental mind bending success and was moving in a very different direction. Bonham's death sealed the deal, and Plant was on his way down the road, and rarely looked back. Now, it should be noted that STH was performed at every single concert that Led Zeppelin ever played (was this all due to begging?) My conclusion would be that the song had to be considered as a "fan favorite", and in this case took precedent over Plant or anyone else in the band who weren't into playing this song anymore. It's also one of the coolest fucking songs ever written and is nothing less than a monumental achievement, any way you look at it. Plant seem's to view STH in much the same way as he views Led Zeppelin....'an albatross around his neck'. Man, I could think of a lot worse things to be hanging around my neck than STH and Led Zeppelin. Decades ago I remember Steven Tyler saying: "Joe Perry told me that he never wants to play 'Dream On' again. I told him him, 'Dream On' put that $600 shirt on your back that your wearing...we're playing it". Like I said, some people embrace it, others rebel against it. This is the dichotomy that can happen when you create a monster....
  20. Sorry, but this is nonsense. Whether or not Page's solo's on STH post '75 are any good is your opinion, but to say that Plant's disdain for the song 'to this day' is due to Page's lousy solo's is pure conjecture. If this were the case, then why did Plant 'allow' it to be played at all three of their reunions? And, why has he not performed the song once during his long solo career, where he could have had one of his many proficient guitarists perform this solo properly and to "Percy's" liking? IMHO, the entire band put up with more shit due to Plant's vocal "problems" (starting in 1972) more than anything else.......sniff
  21. Good cover songs

  22. Live better than Studio

    Yep! That intro is menacing. Also, the epic guitar solo and remarkable tone and execution kills me every damn time. Then there's that slow outro fade where Page doubles back into the opening run of solo as it fades away.... Love the way you can hear Bonzo clicking his sticks together after every one of Plants lines in verses as a cue to launch into BD's tricky odd timing. We also have Plant delivering his most salacious pussy crazed performance at his vocal peak and he just takes it way beyond where any singer had before, or since. They were so fucking good at this point it was sinful.
  23. Stone Temple Pilots

    STP just got a new lease on life. Check this out and 'crank it up':