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Everything posted by blindwillie127

  1. Why In Through The Out Door is a GREAT album

    I've always really liked Carouselambra, despite the shit mix. It was obviously a bit of an experiment, which can be risky, buts that a good thing. The song seems to take you on a journey with all the changes in moods and tempo's, very fucking creative for sure. One of the things that bugs me about it though is all the goddamn "Ahh Ahhh's" it just seems to go on and on. And then, they shift into the dreaded "Trucker's Gear Change" and Plant continues with the fucking "Ahh Ahh's". The song does get a bit monotonous but it has amazing movements, urgency and intent throughout, so overall, for me...its a winner.
  2. Why In Through The Out Door is a GREAT album

    Carouselambra is about as "indirect" and vague as anything Plant has ever written. To even entertain the thought that Page purposefully created a shitty mix in order to bury Plants lyrics cause' it was about him is far fetched and fanciful at best. The difference between Plant on Presence and ITTOD is that #1) Plants son had died and #2) Plant stopped doing blow. Before that, he was happily rolling down the tracks on the party train despite all of his many colds/flu's/laryngitis "episodes" that marred many of his vocal performances and tours. To think that Plant would be now be admonishing Page in his lyrics for his continued 'proclivities' is laughable really, not to mention hypocritical. Maybe Plant was still butt hurt over being forced to record Presence with a fucked up leg, we know he wasn't happy with his vocal performance. I never understood why a fucked up leg would prevent a singer from doing vocal tracks in a studio, what, your on painkillers? That aint nothing new, your already on 'em all the time, might as well make good use of time and make a fucking record. If the drummer has a fucked up throat I would still expect him to lay down drum tracks. Never quite got that one. You got guys now (Axl/Grohl) that go out on 'tour' with a broken fucking leg, sitting in a fucking chair for christ's sake! Sorry for straying off topic, but I find the Robert good/Jimmy bad narrative a little hard to swallow. Either that, or its correct, and it was one of the ingredient's that made them as great as they were. Either way...it was one a hell of a ride.
  3. Why In Through The Out Door is a GREAT album

    Page may have been fucked up during this time, but he wasn't fucking around while laying down those solo's, or any of his tracks for that matter. It all sounds really good and done with purpose, nothing on this record was mailed in. The thing that I've noticed is that while the production value on most songs are excellent, ITE & Carouselambra don't have that crispness the others have, they're a bit muddy. As far as the songwriting goes, I think its impressive they could pull off an album as good as this without Jimmy's usual input. I've always felt that he kind of approached this record with a session player mentality in a way.
  4. Debut Album Openers

    Mountain - Mississippi Queen Steely Dan - Do It Again The Cars - Good Times Roll The Police - Message in a Bottle Ice Cube - The Nigga You Love to Hate TPOTUSOA - Kitty Rage Against the Machine - Bomb Track A little off topic, but...anyone ever noticed how Smashing Pumpkins 'I Am One' steals the 'Welcome to the Jungle' riff?
  5. Black Country Communion

    Can i be honest? Ok, I will. #1) BCC really should not be in the pre/post zeppelin section of forum. That should be reserved for the surviving members of band. #2) Repeat #1. #3) 'Collide' reminds me a lot of Kingdom Come's 'Get It On', but not quite as good....
  6. Burton Cummings has to be the most unheralded rock singer ever. What a fucking voice this man had/and still does...
  7. Jimmy Page Vs Robbie Williams

    Kanye West has a face that would line people up for miles in order to take their slaps at it. However, I'd be slapping the Kardashian's somewhere else.
  8. Blues Thread

  9. What show or live song are you listening to now?

  10. Best Page & Plant boot

    Vegas is better.
  11. What did they think of other bands

    Not sure if this has anything to do with Bonham's opinions on Peter Frampton, but its funny as hell none the less. Sorry for going off topic:
  12. What did they think of other bands

    We know they were also very influenced by both Joni Mitchell and CSN&Y. In fact, I'd go as far to say that Plant got his "it makes me wonder" line (which he turned into a refrain), from the song Deja Vu. I also think Zeppelins live 'sit down acoustic sets' were directly inspired by CS&N
  13. What did they think of other bands

    Pretty sure this is the track/album Bonham was playing to at the Riot House in '75, causing the guests on floors below to flock to the front desk with their noise complaints. I imagine the building was shaking a bit...
  14. What happened to Plant's voice in 1972 ?

    Led Zeppelin went to a party, and it lasted 10 years. Nobody walks away from a party like that unscathed. These were the "do what thou wilt" times, and they did just exactly that. I love this band.
  15. What happened to Plant's voice in 1972 ?

    Ever wonder why Plant had so many colds/flu's/laryngitis etc... through out the 70's?
  16. Coverdale/Page

    That's right!!! That privilege is reserved for Jimmy Page.
  17. Coverdale/Page

    Plant's pennant for dissing other artists has always rubbed me the wrong way, I must admit. I guess he viewed Coverdale as a imitator of himself and had to let it be known, but it was stupid and disrespectful for sure. That being said, I think Paul Rogers was spared Plants dissing because he looked and sounded nothing like him. But, he should have . You want insipid lyrics? See 'The Firm', "flames r gettin' higher n higher" Oops, I forgot. Plant knows he has no business criticizing anyone for insipid lyrics, my bad.
  18. What's the worst live performance of a song?

    I think they may have blown their wad during the stellar 6 night run at the L.A. Forum. After that, they took 3 weeks off and when they resumed the 3rd leg of the tour they played at Seattle n Arizona, possibly their two worst back to back shows ever. Oakland was better, but definitely lacked the fire and momentum the band had built up and prominently displayed 6 nights in a row at The Forum. Then, off for another extended break before the planned final leg of tour, which of course never happened. I think the mayhem and indulgence of Zep in '77 caught up to them and basically, they ran out of gas. They were not the same band after the L.A. run....ever again.
  19. What's your favorite live Trampled Underfoot?

    If all of Zeppelin's 1980 Euro tour boots sounded as good as this, I personally would listen to it a hell of a lot more. Its a little boomy but if u turn the bass down a bit and kick up the treble a notch or two, and then crank it, you'll see what I mean. Anyone know this source? Sounds like a radio broadcast to me.

    I'm sure Page has loads of audio reels and film clips in the vault that could be compiled that I would love to hear and see but may be deemed to be unworthy for an official release. I imagine most final dress rehearsals for most tours were documented by audio as well as some film/video for the band to hear and see it coming together before actual showtime. This may include things such as preps for '75, '77, Copenhagen & Knebworth at the very least, IMO. These are the kind of things I'm interested in, but see no widespread marketing value to it unless added on to something thats 'significant to the masses' as bonus tracks n clips for the real Zeppelin fans. For me, at this point, it has to be live Zeppelin, not studio, and not Zeppelin playing without John Bonham...sorry Jason.
  21. Is Jimmy Page done making music?

    Great point! Take the Rolling Stones for example. They were quite prolific when it came to documenting their live shows but didn't really start doing it consistently until 1981's Tattoo You tour. We got one pro shot from the '78 Some Girls tour, a few from '75/76 that look like n sound like shit, one from '72 Ladies & Gentleman The Rolling Stones, one from 71' @ the Marquee Club, and three from '69, Hyde Park, Ya Ya's and Altamont. I'm sure Im leaving a few out here as they did record their live shows much more than most other bands that I'm aware of, but the progression is obvious and technology had everything to do with it.