The Korean airlines shoot-down seemed particularly horrible. A plane taking off from NY and bound for Paris was also (perhaps) accidentally shot down by the US Navy back in the 90's. Other airline disasters have had "questionable" causes as well. It's all very sad.

Enjoyed several glasses of the French dessert wine, Sauternes, as well as several glasses (Lol) of the Hungarian dessert wine Tokaji Aszui (5 puttonyos), one of the world's finest dessert wines, together with cut-up slices of orange, apple, peaches and cake. Today, I'm planning to enjoy the Sauternes and Tokaji with French bread and pastries and fine cheese

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You women here are terrible! LOL

A guided tour is DEFINITELY the way to go. The guides will keep her safe. Feel free to PM me if you'd like to keep in touch and/or exchange contact info, etc.

Actually, I'm not sure -- I haven't been there for awhile.

I've spent considerable time in SA. I loved it -- great people and spectacular scenery. She'll need to be careful, though. I would suggest (if possible) that she travel in groups and stick to the Garden Route and Cape Town areas.

Anyone here ever seen a movie called the "Devil's Rejects?" The material is very, very dark, but also subtly humorous and tongue in cheek.

23 Americans died, if I understand correctly I hope your daughter is traveling to a safer part of the world

Rightly or wrongly, I'm skeptical that Russia had anything to do with it.

His original name was Wulf Grajonca, and he came to the U.S. as a child. Like many new immigrants, he felt the need to anglicize his name in order to better fit in.

I like Fiona Apple. I'm listening to George Michael's "Fast Love."

Thanks, ebk. I just googled the Walton's and discovered that both the fictional Walton's and real-life Hammer's lived in a rural part of central Virginia located about 70 miles west of Richmond. Both the real-life and fictional "John Boy" (apparently) graduated from the University of Richmond.

I haven't seen the Walton's show since I was a lkid in the 70's. The show was based on a real-life family who lived in Virginia wasn't it?

I'm planning to read Graham's book at some point. It's interesting that Graham believed Zep -- among other things -- had a "negative influence on society."

These are great photos. I particularly love the corvette and horses on the beach.

Awesome. I too am fascinated by Tudor history.

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Excellent observations. Also, in the turmoil of the Vietnam/post-Vietnam War era, many young Americans might have been subconsciously yearning for a rock band that employed a more structured "tangents within a framework" approach to music.

Great thread. '68 was indeed an eventful year -- it's been called "the most eventful year in American history since the Civil War." That same year was also hugely eventful elsewhere in the world -- in "Swinging" London, and during the intense worker/student protests in Paris and elsewhere in France, etc. Then, of course, there was '69....

These are truly wonderful. I'd love to see more of your historical doodles, SozoZoso. Maybe Lady Jane Grey, etc.

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Agreed. It's wonderful to hear you had a great time.

Absolutely. It's ludicrous that he's not a "sir", yet. He's one of the finest artists (not merely musicians) whom Britain has ever produced.