Yes, Maaike, I see it happening, perhaps slightly more in Europe than in the States. Lipslikecherries, you're certainly not alone with your experience. I have reason to believe that such things are real as well. As you said, "maybe some people are capable of picking up/connecting with things that others aren't? The mind is a powerful thing...I don't doubt it's capabilities." Determining the divide (if there is one) between the subjective and objective aspects of such experiences interests me.

Led Zeppelin was a MUCH better band than the Who. Zep has also outsold the Who by a margin of at least 2.5 or 3 to 1.

In high school I used to picture Plant as being a Shelley or Keats type, and Page as being a Byron (and Paganini) type. With age I realized it was far more complex than that.

I believe the human mind, and the power of the will, are complex and powerful. With that in mind, I have the following question: When some people claim to have seen ghosts and/or demons, or claim to have been in a well-lit room which suddenly went dark after a ritual or incantation was performed, what is really happening? (I should mention that I have spoken to people -- credible people -- who claim to have had such experiences.) Are these people simply hallucinating and/or mentally projecting into their environments? Or are these things occurring objectively in the environment itself? Or both? Thoughts anyone?

My thoughts exactly

Great post. It's true that JPJ probably would have been the heartthrob in most bands. It's amazing how the members of Zep somehow managed to simultaneously seem charismatic and "cool" to the straight men (like me) and sexy and "hot" to the women without alienating either group. It's one of the many fascinating mysteries and dichotomies of Led Zeppelin.

I saw this band -- I had mixed feelings

I was under the impression that Page was wearing elements of a Luftwaffe uniform, not an SS uniform.

Little River Band

I watched a T.V. show several nights ago where the argument was put forth that an alien civilization had once (and perhaps still) lived on the moon. The aliens had left remnants of their civilization on the lunar surface in the form of huge bridges, exhaust vents, (now shattered) glass domes and other structures which NASA is aware of and trying to keep secret. At least one former NASA astronaut buys into this theory. I don't know what I think, but I found the show entertaining.

I don't watch much T.V. nowdays, but as a child one of my favorite T.V. characters was Kolshack on the show "The Night Stalker."

Good point, Walter Also, it's striking to me how many members here on the forum are Americans. Many of our best posters here on the forum hail from the U.K. and elsewhere, but a large number -- I'd guess at least 70 percent of our currently active members -- hail from America.

Indeed it is lovely -- thanks

Lipslikecherries, what is this work of art called and who did it?

I couldn't agree more. Also, the "space trip" money should be donated to charity.

Live Eagles

I pretty much agree with you, clw.

Weren't most accomplished artists and writers anti-establishment when they were young? Likewise, many of them didn't completely conform to society's mores or standards when they were young men (or women) either. Look at Tolstoy, for example. Are "War and Peace" and "Anna Karinina" somehow lesser works of art because Tolstoy "certainly didn't conform to society's mores when he was a young man?" Should Tolstoy today be any less venerated or honored?

RIP Skye McCole Bartusiak; the actress who played the adorable young daughter in the film, "The Patriot."

This is a wonderfully descriptive post. I know a person in New Orleans who's still disappointed -- 37 years later -- that he didn't get to see Zep at the Superdome in '77. (From what I understand, about 80,000 tickets had been sold to the show.) I don't mean to derail this thread, but I've always wondered how many fans in '77 were disappointed by the banishment of D and C from the set. I wonder if fans discussed it's absence. (I realize a solo bow section replaced it.)

This thread is exceedingly interesting and entertaining, Strider. Your threads regarding your Zep experiences are even better.

Sunny, warm, and a little humid

Lol. Actually, there were a lot of good things about the job. I made some good friends. But many of the patrons were "rough sorts" who would get rowdy (and often drunk) and verbally abuse, threaten, and occasionally physically assault our staff members. (including our female staff members.) Also, some of our bosses were "questionable characters." Finally, I have vivid memories of continually having to clean up little kids vomit from the various rides which I operated: The roller coaster, the topsy turvey etc, etc.

Tough choice -- I'd probably go with III

The Eagles -- Witchy Woman