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Hi Diana! How go things in Lebanon? Sorry, but as an American, all we hear is the bad on the news. Is it a beautiful day? Is the weather nice for April? Apologies for going off topic everyone, but it's not every day you can talk to someone halfway around the planet! Okay, I guess you can. Now. But it's still new to me. So, is the weather nice? It was 98 degrees here today, and we have fires in the mountains.

Couldn't agree more. Love your username by the way! There's no shame in using a double pedal. So what? So the old man had an amazing and impossible right foot! You get comfortable with what you get used to, and you use it to get the job done. Whatever it takes. Jason did a fantastic job! So he used a double pedal. I say big fucking deal. Was the performance not brilliant? Did the band not fucking prove it wasn't stoned hype legend, and put the Live Aid and Atlantic shit to rest???? Hell yeah they did! That's all that matters. I couldn't care less if he used eleven pedals.

That's a tough one. Do we count the repeats from the Echoplex? Well, it's A,G,D,E four times, followed by an ascention and decention of F#,G,A,B,C,B,A,G,F#,D,C,B, and rest. With the Echoplex, that is doubled. So you have 40. 10 cycles of four. Dunno what that means, I've just played it enough times to pick up a guitar a count it out!

Thanks Sun Child! It appears my links have failed. Here are the images. Note the last set of sigils on the page on the right. You can clearly see at the top of the that they represent Saturn. The page on the left, Mercury, Jupiter and Venus.

I cannot say why Page chose that particular sigil, besides astrological connections, but I can say that in Thelemic ritual, it is your focal point. You choose a sigil, and it's what you meditate on during ritual practice. It's your ground, so to speak. What it represents to him personally, or why he chose it, only he can say.

Pics courtesy of inthelight.com: The Red Dragon. Also called the Grand Grimoire. 1850 reprint of a 1521 text. To quote Arthur Edward Waite of the Order of the Golden dawn and founder of Thr Rosicrucians: The Grand Grimoire is a black magic grimoire that claims to date back to 1522. It is widely suspected that it was written some time in the 19th century. It was ostensibly published in Cairo by a person known as Alibek the Egyptian. Also known as "The Red Dragon", this book contains instructions purported to summon Lucifer or Lucifuge Rofocale for the purpose of forming a pact. Sections of it are found in Waite's Book of Ceremonial Magic and in Hyatt and Black's Pacts with the Devil. The book is called "Le Veritable Dragon Rouge" ("The True Red Dragon") in Haiti, where it is revered among many practitioners of Vodou and Santeria. The Grand Grimoire divides with the Grimoire of Honorius the darksome honour of an intelligible and unmutilated Ritual of Black Magic. Each after its own kind is indeed an exceedingly curious work. In the first is contained what is probably the only printed method of making pacts; the second is remarkable, firstly, on account of its pretended origin and the elaboration with which it is set forth, secondly, for the ecclesiastical complexion of its process, which can scarcely have failed to impose upon some credulous and priestly sorcerers of the illiterate kind, and assuming their willingness to disgrace the vows of ordination. It will be remembered that the operator, or Karcist, as he is termed in the Grand Grimoire, is recommended continence, fasting and similar privations for an entire quarter of the moon, such quarter coinciding with that of the luminary. On the morning which scucceeds the first night of the quarter, he must repair to a druggist's, and purchase a blood-stone, called Ematille (id est, Haematites), which must be carried continually about him for fear of accident, and in expectation that the spirit whom it is proposed to compel and bind will henceforth do all in his power to overwhelm the operator with terror, so as to incite him to abandon the enterprise, hoping in this manner to escape from the wiles which are beginning to be woven about him. The Grand Grimoire is the most fantastic of the cycle and is introduced with great pomp by its pretended editor, Antonio Venitiana del Rabina, a personage whose name indicates the Italian origin of the work. By reason of its rarity and the great request in which it is, we are informed that it must be regarded as the veritable Magnum Opus -- a view which may appear inconsequential, but for which the authority of Rabbinical writers is cited. It is to these authors that we owe the priceless treasure which innumerable charlatans have endeavoured to counterfeit, but have never succeeded in discovering. The copy made use of by Antonio in preparing his edition was transcribed from the genuine writing of the mighty King Solomon, which were obtained by pure chance... The Grand Grimore is regarded as one of the most atrocious of its class; it has a process in Necromancy which is possible, say some occult writers; in the genialty of a lucid interval -- only to a dangerous maniac or an irreclaimable criminal... Eliphas Levi says that it pretends to confer the Power of Projection, the great Mystery of the Sages... There is, of course, no question that the Grand Grimoire is a book of Black Magic, and it is contrary to the nature of things that a book of Black Magic should be otherwise than diabolical... The first part of the Grand Grimore, like the Grimoriusm Verum, is simply a process for the evocation of evil spirits to obtain the enorced surrender of hidden treasure. In the second part the magician is certainly expected to give himself, body and soul, to the demon who serves him meanwhile, and there can be no hesitation in admitting that this creates a sharp distinction, not only between the Grand Grimoire and all the Composite Rituals, but also between the Grand Grimorie and the other Liturgies of Black Magic. It is only a palliation to say that the compact is worded as a subterfuge, and in reality gives nothing to the demon, who here, as so frequently in folklore, is bamboozled, receiving the shadow in place of the substance." -- A.E. Waite, "Of Black Magic and Of Pacts", from the Introduction to "The Grand Grimoire", Seattle: Trident Books, 1996.

Bravo Otto! You always come through! I'd really like to know where those quotes came from, because I remember reading them years ago! I don't remember what I had for lunch yesterday, but I sure as hell remember those!

Lemme pick up the tab mate! And more George Carlin!!!

I'm only going from memory and I may be mistaken. I'm no archivist. I just go from what I remember, so don't take my word as gospel! Hell, it could've been Circus or Hit Parader!!! It's been a long time...

Agreed. Yeah, I find the unmixed Trampled Underfoot really telling. He's croaking all over the place, but it's the same take that's on the album.

The ol' three finger technique! As for starting a tour with a sick singer, there's a little more to that. Robert had vocal surgery during the hiatus in 74. And while I'm not saying he didn't have the flu, he was also re-learning how to use his voice. Anyone with a copy of the dry mixes from Physical Graffiti will hear a voice vastly different than the one on Houses of the Holy. It's a real testament to Jimmy's brilliant studio work how he got the vocals on Physical Graffiti to sound like they do. It really wasn't until Presence that Robert began to master his "new" voice.

Thanks Ricky! I could use one, old friend!

Actually yes, I have a woman. And she has me. And we're happy just being ourselves in our own little world, being little Zeppelin fans. I have to come here to be insulted.

I'm over myself. I don't put myself on the pedestal you think I do. I just don't know what your beef is with me. WTF is your problem with me? Show me the post where I'm a fucking primadonna?

WTF is up with Heaven Knows?? I have no trouble with you, Gerald. I just expressed why I thought PMs were of value. We can agree to disagree on that and still be friends. Whatever, it ain't no big deal. We're cool. But what's all this shit coming to with Heaven Knows? Clearly she/he's trying to bait me and stir up some shit. Sorry if you got some on you. I dunno what this is about.

Which version? I have several! Quabbalah? Kabballah? I need to go to bed. If you really want to go deeper with this stuff, you know where to find me! It's getting to that point where I'm backspacing to correct too many typos. Know what I mean? All the best to you and yours, Ev!

Let me get my athame! Guinness on me! Well not, actually ON me.

You're welcome! I wish I could recall where I read that. It was years (hell, decades) ago. But I grew up in the Long Beach area, and it always stuck in my head: It happened HERE! Y'know how those things put a sticky in your head. Actually, I think it was in the Los Angeles Times. My dad was a physics prof at Long Beach University, which afforded me some priviledges for a kid on the campus, and I used to spend endless hours searching all things Zeppelin in the microfiche room in the University library.

The 73 injury happened at Long Beach Municipal Airport. He strained a tendon in his palm climbing a chain link fence that separated him from some fans. The 75 injury was his ring finger that got fractured when it got slammed in a train door. Hi Otto!

Glasses raised, so I must bump.

Lithograph of Zep III artwork signed by the artist Zacron Complete Zeppelin catalog on 180 gram master vinyl. Yummy! Handmade replica of Jimmy's Earl's Court pendant

Rare albums Ticket stubs from San Diego 1977 Ticket stubs Postcard from Robert to us from Istanbul

And you edited that?