Let's have a Marvin Love-Fest !!!! The best duet Evah !! (Gotta love that little Benny Benjimen slam at the beginning) I remember watching this....chills. "Taxes, Death, and Trouble"

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...ENT04/805060380 Mercy mercy: A new look at Marvin Gaye's life Susan Whitall / Detroit News Music Writer Motown's ultimate love god, Marvin Gaye, has to be one of the most complex and fascinating characters ever to come out of the legendary Detroit record company. "One of the most musically creative minds ever," his colleague Smokey Robinson says of Gaye in a new PBS documentary, "Marvin Gaye: What's Going On," that airs at 9 p.m. Wednesday on Detroit Public Television Channel 56. "He was also a very troubled man," Robinson adds. Gaye's life and career epitomized the highest highs and lowest lows that befell any Motown artist. His 1968 hit "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" became the longest-running Motown No. 1 hit ever (seven weeks) and his 1971 album "What's Going On" is widely considered a masterpiece. But Gaye led a tumultuous, drug-fueled life. His earliest family life was dysfunctional, and it played out in his death at the hands of his father, the Rev. Marvin Gay Sr., who shot him in 1984, the day before his 45th birthday. For this documentary, producers were able to talk to Motown founder Berry Gordy Jr., who famously opposed the release of "What's Going On" at first ("I was petrified he was going to ruin his image," Gordy says). Among the others who speak on camera are the singer's second wife Janis (mother of his daughter Nona and son Frankie), his sister Jeanne, Motown singers Kim Weston, Mary Wilson, Bobby Taylor and Gladys Knight, and his biographer ("Divided Soul") David Ritz. Born in Washington, D.C., Gaye (who added an "e" to the family name) started singing in his father's church. He came to Detroit in 1960, slogging away at Motown for several years as a drummer and then, trying to make it as a suave, finger-snapping Rat Pack wannabe. Once he gave up the dream of being a sepia Sinatra, Gaye finally hit with soulful pop hits like "Hitchhike" and "Pride and Joy." Along the way, he married Anna Gordy, Berry Gordy's chic older sister (some 15 years Gaye's senior). In clips from an interview done late in his life, Gaye admitted that he took full advantage of his in-law status as the prince of Motown. "I enjoyed being able to say, I don't have to do that ...you guys do that," Gaye says, laughing. Gaye's relationship with his mother was very close; she was his protector from his eccentric, often hostile, pastor father. Friends and relatives describe Gaye's bewilderment over his father's habit of cross-dressing, and how it affected the younger man psychologically, spurring him to overcompensate by womanizing and throwing himself into competitive sports. Interestingly, Gaye admits in an interview clip that he sometimes had "semi-violent disagreements" with his brother-in-law/boss Gordy. Torn musically and personally between the pleasures of the flesh and spirituality, Gaye was a living, breathing mass of contradictions His handsomeness impressed every woman he met, but the singer couldn't dance "a lick," as his Motown friends laughingly recall, and as the film clips bear out. Fortunately, when Motown teamed Gaye up to sing duets with Tammi Terrell, he didn't have to dance at all, just tower over the petite dynamo, gaze into her eyes and sing. Songwriter/producer Nick Ashford described why they worked so well together: "She was very sassy, and he had that growl in his voice ..." Terrell's death from a brain tumor in 1970 haunted Gaye to the end of his days. His downward spiral into drugs and alcohol, leading to his violent final confrontation with his father, is documented here. It's bittersweet, because after some years off, including a stint living in a bread truck in Hawaii, Gaye was able to rally enough to produce "Sexual Healing" in 1982, which earned him two Grammys -- incredibly, his first ever. The world, and Gordy, caught up with the greatness of that album. "Probably the greatest piece of music Motown put out," the Motown chairman says. You can reach Susan Whitall at (313) 222-2156 or swhitall@det news.com.

So....Was I the only one who caught the announcer's reference to "implants" ?

The song "Most High" is repulsive to me. It's noodly and goofy. It's like a parody of their Eastern influences. The title track kicks ass though. Great lyrics and Jimmy's solo is right out of his Yardbird's era. "Heart in Your Hand" is very underrated too.

"Peace Frog" rocks !

I'm totally ignorant about the technology you are referring to, but I have a related question. During the '77 tour, Robert performs with JPJ on "The Battle of Evermore". JPJ sings low....Robert sings high, but only for part of the song. The rest seems to sound like Robert is harmonizing with himself....using what device ?

I think I'd rather watch midgets and tennis.

Because even though people interpet Crowley's life and writings many ways, what happened later in his life isn't really disputed. He died a broke heroin addict, and came to admit that many of his actions and writings were simply a means of escaping his privileged yet suppressed childhood. That's why many people dismiss him as being nothing more than the world's first modern rebelling teenager....and why teen-aged baby boomers embraced his philosophies so willingly. From one site.... Crowley went on to publish more books – such as Magick: In theory and practice and his Confessions – but his reputation had been damaged. As the years passed he began losing touch with reality. He spent his final years penniless, a sad figure living on the favours of friends. A chronic heroin addict, he died in Hastings in 1947, disillusioned and questioning the philosophies he built to escape his repressed Christian upbringing. The disillusionment started when he couldn't get it up anymore. Great question, and I wish I could help you there. I have the same suspicions about the lyrics. I also have my own ideas about "the intersection", but it's all speculation and probably better left unsaid. These are sensitive subjects to some folks, and probably deservedly so. As for myself, I don't believe in any hocus-pocus crap....I've just always thought there's more to this than what we're told.

Respectfully disagree. If you're going to focus solely on the ideas that were original to Crowley only, there won't be much left to diagnose. Most of his ideas were borrowed and stolen from elsewhere. He no more invented The May Queen than he did the concept of an Outrider, yet he wrote about both. Just because the concepts were not exclusive to his teachings, really has no bearing on if Jimmy was influenced by what Crowley wrote about those subjects. My personal opinion is that many of the gentleman who follow Crowley tend to lose a little/lot of interest once they get older and their libido subsides. From reading his writings, and others opinions of him, his teachings can easily be explained as nothing more than an excuse for some old-fashioned Hedonism. Crowley himself pretty much died disillusioned with everything he had written during his life. Just one opinion

For your sake, I think I'll start referring to them as "movements" instead of just parts. Hopefully, you're scheduled for one sometime before this weekend. But you're wrong Steve....You see, it's only solitaire.

A raving Internet lunatic ? Please....allow me to appease your constant analness on this beautiful Friday morning..... or perhaps this will unclench your sphincter..... You and Stevie should get a room.

Actually, one song with two parts.....and irrelevant now, due to bonus tracks.

Saw Tull & Trower here for $8.50. It wasn't sold out, so I moved up pretty close. Didn't see Tull again until Thanksgiving weekend 1991 at the Detoit Fox Theatre, and even though Ian was sick as a dog (he had the flu, and was excusing himself in the middle of songs to puke off the side of the stage), they put on a great show. It was only "bore 'em at the Forum" if you had to watch the same show 30 times. If you only see them once, they're great.

Heh....Well that's a Friday morning flashback. Thanks to my brother, that 8 track was sitting next to the bed when I was 12. With 4 seperate tracks to share two songs, that album didn't lend itself to the 8 track format very well. fade-out....*click*....fade-in. Where's my matchbook ?

Kingdom Clones

I rented "Elizabeth the Golden Age".....I thought it was excellent. "The Shooter" with Mark Wahlberg.....better than i expected. Finally saw "4 Brothers" also. Hot damn !, what an excellent, yet out of place Motown soundtrack.

Good point. But let me shoot this at ya'....If he really should be credited for lyrics on Zep 1, why isn't he now ? If Jake Holmes eventually got his due, why not Robert ?

No disrespect Sir, but I disagree with that statement also.

I disagree. If you look at the tracks from the first album.... 1. Good Times Bad Times 2. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You 3. You Shook Me 4. Dazed And Confused 5. Your Time Is Gonna Come 6. Black Mountain Side 7. Communication Breakdown 8. I Can't Quit You Baby 9. How Many More Times 2, 3, 4, 8, and 9 are covers. 6 has no lyrics. That only leaves 3 songs he could have possibly contributed to. None of those three seem to be in Plant's lyrical style. He also had very limited writing credits for anything before Zep. No biggie....I just think the claim of "Thank-You" being his first major contribution is accurate.

"TC" was Here

"Everyday People"......Sly & the Family Stone

Just heard John Entwhistle's cover of "Cinnamon Girl". Never even knew the beast existed....and it's quite listenable.

When an American crosses the border here (Detroit/Windsor), we have no problems entering Canada. It's on the way back into the U.S. that is the problem. This is happening when Canadians are starting to come over in droves to buy American goods because of the exchange rate. I don't think any U.S. merchants are interested in losing that extra business. There are discussions going on to have a pedestrian cable car installed across the river. If you don't bring your car, there are obviously less security concerns. This works pretty well at Niagara Falls, and I think it would be self-supporting. Something has to be done.

Why is it that someone from France can go to Germany like it's just another American County, but if I go to Canada I have to provide a birth certificate, a passport, a blood sample...etc ? Maybe if the U.S. and Canada go to war and kill thousands of each other's citizens, we could open our borders in a similar fashion ? Just a stupid crazy thought.