weapon2010 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I would just like to know your guy's opinions about why this critcism exists? Is it valid? What is the cause? I have my thoughts on it but would love to hear yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobbs Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) Oh god, not this nonsense again. Edited February 7, 2021 by BobDobbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 So your contribution is that its "nonsense".Thankyou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 There has been a lot of discussion on this site about this. The search function is easy to use. I typed in "sloppy" and then chose "content titles only". Here are the first two items returned in the search. Plenty of discussion here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapon2010 Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 thanks , so your saying I should not bring this up as a new topic, do the search and add to the existing thread? is that the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummingbird69 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, weapon2010 said: thanks , so your saying I should not bring this up as a new topic, do the search and add to the existing thread? is that the rules? It's not the rules but it has been beaten to death in multiple threads so sometimes it makes sense to look a forum over for topics that already exist and then read those pages and add your opinion. Starting a new thread won't get too many responses because everybody and their daddies have posted about already. Edited February 7, 2021 by hummingbird69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 At this point it is If, of all the things one can talk about Led Zeppelin with their albums and hundreds of concerts and legacy and influence, is the tired trope of "Jimmy Page is sloppy", that's a conversation I'll leave you to have with yourself. I have already said my peace about this subject at length before many times. All I will say now is that Jimmy Page played on innumerable sessions in the 1960s. Sloppy guitar players do not get hired for studio sessions (where time is money) and become one of the most in-demand guitar players in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobbs Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 hours ago, weapon2010 said: So your contribution is that its "nonsense".Thankyou. You are most welcome 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 19 hours ago, weapon2010 said: thanks , so your saying I should not bring this up as a new topic, do the search and add to the existing thread? is that the rules? I was pointing out that there is a lot of discussion on this topic already and you might want to read some of it, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigante Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Reading the subject heading alone made me want to rip my face off, slowly. Sort of down and to the right, obvs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandey Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Well yeah, Page was kinda loose live, but he played great acoustic guitar, and sloppy players can't really succeed at that. Page's playing style and approach is what I call expressionist; the effect is more important than how it comes about. It's a lot more precise and calculated than it sounds in my opinion. In concert Page was often drunk and/or drugged and sleep deprived so that's going to lead to some less than perfect playing live. Secondly Page didn't sound like a modern metal guitarist, or even an 80's one. But he wasn't a modern metal guitarist, so why should he be compared to that style? The whole sloppy thing comes from the ideal that "technique" equals speed, even touch, metronomic timing and complicated scale runs. Page was about purposefully moving timing around the beat, of varying the touch, of seeking melodic and rhythmic phrases – all for maximum effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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