StarkRavingCalm Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 When Zep released the Complete Studio Recordings Box Set in '93, I got rid of all my orignal LZ CDs. I didn't like the packaging of the Box Set and never bought the individuals again (no flaming please) (I had the 4 CD Set and the Remasters 2CD Set). With the release of Mothership and Song Remains The Same (both of which I bought) etc..., has there been anything official about re-issuing the individual albums again? Should I wait or buy the '94 remastered editions? I thought that the entire collection was remastered for the iTunes collection so it would only make sense to release them on CD again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feather in the wind Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 imo, if u have all the songs now in your collection, then keep what u have. sure it's nice to have it all, but where would u put it? anything remastered for an ipod/itunes is not 'true'. i read an article about mp3s and cds. mp3s are 'boosted' giving the highs mids and lows the same volume, thus, imo, losing the quality of the song. songs are meant have distinguishable highs and lows, as a cd does replicate true. i'm NOT saying that this remastered release is done in this way. just a fyi. but my first line i hold, just crank it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solar Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 By '94 remasters, are you talking about the 2-disc Box Set 2 (small green/turquoise box)? Because the 2-disc Remasters is an entirely different entity, a greatest hits package similar to Mothership. The Box Set 2 from '93 is actually the songs that were not on the first 1990 4-disc box set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkRavingCalm Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 imo, if u have all the songs now in your collection, then keep what u have. sure it's nice to have it all, but where would u put it? Don't have the whole collection, just the 4CD Box Set 2CD, Remasters Set and 2CD Mothership collections (and SRTS DVD) By '94 remasters, are you talking about the 2-disc Box Set 2 (small green/turquoise box)? Because the 2-disc Remasters is an entirely different entity, a greatest hits package similar to Mothership. The Box Set 2 from '93 is actually the songs that were not on the first 1990 4-disc box set. By '94 Remasters. I mean the albums themselves, not the 2CD "Remasters" Set. I am merely wondering if there was any "Official" word on if they plan to re-issue each album in newly remastered form. Or if I should go and buy them all in their 94 remastered versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solar Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Don't have the whole collection, just the 4CD Box Set 2CD, Remasters Set and 2CD Mothership collections (and SRTS DVD) By '94 Remasters. I mean the albums themselves, not the 2CD "Remasters" Set. I am merely wondering if there was any "Official" word on if they plan to re-issue each album in newly remastered form. Or if I should go and buy them all in their 94 remastered versions. If I were you, I'd wait. You do have the complete collection of songs with Box Set 1 and 2, albeit well out of order. Or am I reading this wrong and you have each album remastered individually? That said, I prefer having the albums in their original running order ... especially for things like Heartbreaker/Livin Lovin Maid and the cough sequence at the end of IMTOD leading into Houses of the Holy on Physical Graffiti. For the record, I have both box sets and each individual album on CD, not the 10-disc box set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manderlyh Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 ^Oh yeah? I have both box sets, each individual album and the complete recordings set! Not to mention all the LPs.... I would wait too. I'm hoping for some remasters soon that will knock the socks off what I already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverVishnu Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 i read an article about mp3s and cds. mp3s are 'boosted' giving the highs mids and lows the same volume, thus, imo, losing the quality of the song. songs are meant have distinguishable highs and lows, as a cd does replicate true. Not entirely true. An MP3 which has been converted from a lossless CD will generally have no distinguishable quality difference - the reason why live shows are traded in lossless FLACs is to keep the integrity and 'purity;' if something is compressed as an MP3 and then compressed again as another MP3, you'll start to notice a quality difference. Anyway, the other thing you might be on is something called the 'loudness war,' which is an unfortunate phenomenom in which record companies produce modern music to be as loud as possible, often to gain attention on radio. Unfortunately, they often compress the lower volumes, decreasing the dynamic range and making the album sound like shit. HTWWW is an example of this. Loudness war example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cd_loudness_trend.gif Video explanation: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkRavingCalm Posted January 16, 2008 Author Share Posted January 16, 2008 I don't want to veer to far off from my original post. But do the processes mentioned above; mp3 'boosting' and 'loudness war' do the same thing as Normalizing? I always understood Normalizing as bringing the entire soundfile up together, so the lows stay at the same proportionate volume as the loud parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feather in the wind Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 from what i learned, normalizing brings the volumes up on the songs to match the highest sounding song. when i normalize in itunes, i see some songs that will have its DB increase or decrease, to 'normalize' across the board. but ya, mp3s for ipods have been 'boosted' (on itunes or any mp3s for sale download) to make all sounds (highs lows mids) at the same level. so that all sounds are distinguishable thru headphones. this is what i read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkRavingCalm Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 Ok, I have decided to buy the '94 Remastered versions. At least that way, if they do re-release them again I can have a side by side comparison. Plus, I can pick them up fairly cheap these days. On that note, has anyone noticed a difference, fidelity-wise between the 94 editions and the previous pressing on CD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaimerosario Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Buy the damn 10 CD Box Set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaztor (slight return) Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Keep what you've got. Screw those re-releases. Record companies are flogging the same dead horses again and again, often with extra outtakes that deserved to be outtakes, where's the end? It's just a lot of moneygrabbing. I rather have new releases. Admittedly the old Zep-cd's are extremely crappy (bar LZ2, which has the complete Ramble On), so if you've got 90's Zep-cd's I don't think there's a reason to upgrade it to SACDFKETHFW-or-whatever-the-latest-fashion-is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Hopper Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 When Zep released the Complete Studio Recordings Box Set in '93, I got rid of all my orignal LZ CDs. I didn't like the packaging of the Box Set and never bought the individuals again (no flaming please) (I had the 4 CD Set and the Remasters 2CD Set). With the release of Mothership and Song Remains The Same (both of which I bought) etc..., has there been anything official about re-issuing the individual albums again? Should I wait or buy the '94 remastered editions? I thought that the entire collection was remastered for the iTunes collection so it would only make sense to release them on CD again. Depends on how much disposable income you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaztor (slight return) Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Well.... I rather would spend my money on new music when I had the Zep catalogue remastered already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka1961 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Well.... I rather would spend my money on new music when I had the Zep catalogue remastered already... Has anyone compared the 94 re-masters (Which includes the first three box-sets) to the "Mothership" re-masters? 90% of the reviews I've read on Amazon were adamant that the new re-masters by John Davies and the band were dramatically better than early versions. I'm usually very suspicious in most cases about repeated re-masters and record companies giving the shaft to consumers with repeated versions of previously available material.......however.....it does seem that the consensus is that the new remasters for the Mothership release are spectacular! Has anyone done a comparison? Thoughts, opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirchzep27 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 In regards to the first 90s remaster cds and mothership, possible new cds. I would buy both, i've heard the difference in the mothership stuff with bass and vocals enough, to warrant myself buying the new versions. But, you can play the 90 remasters louder....as a basic response and not being an audio tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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