Monday November 25, 1963. The fourth and maybe most solemn day of the continuous television coverage of the entire events of 50 years ago. The State Funeral of John Fitzgerald Kennedy. CBS began its coverage at 8:00am. EST. Look how young Mike Wallace is...and some of you old-timers might recognize veteran CBS reporter Roger Mudd. 8am to 9am 9am to 10am 10am to 11am

^^^ 1. I quoted Sue, not you, in my original post. 2. Fair enough. But I'm not shunning you, indirectly or directly. 3. What? I have no idea what you mean. Nothing hostile intended.

In theory, every song played on mainstream pop/rock radio is way too over-played.

November 24, 1963. Sunday evening at 10:00 pm EST, CBS airs a special report "One Sunday in November":

Found an interesting look back at the Dallas Cowboys @ Cleveland Browns game of Sunday November 24, 1963. 1963 Dallas Cowboys were put in a bad light by JFK game BY RAY BUCK rbuck@star-telegram.com Before the Dallas Cowboys took a snap on the final Sunday of November 1963, the Star-Telegram already had its next-day’s lead story: “SUSPECT OSWALD SLAIN IN DALLAS.” Five words, all caps, 72-point type. Nothing else happening on Nov. 24, 1963, could, or would, outshout this headline. Within 48 hours of John F. Kennedy’s assassination in downtown Dallas, suspected president-killer Lee Harvey Oswald was himself shot and killed while being transferred to the Dallas County Jail from Dallas PD. The shock and awe was captured on live television. Meanwhile, roughly 1,000 miles away in Cleveland, the Cowboys and Browns were about to carry out NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle’s mandate to let the games go on. “There was a tiny television in the visitors’ locker room at Cleveland Stadium,” Cowboys QB Eddie LeBaron recalled. “We had just come back in from [pregame] warm-up when we saw Oswald get shot by Jack Ruby.” LeBaron, 33, was elder statesman enough at the time to provide some sage advice to his teammates. “Put your helmets on — and keep ’em on,” LeBaron warned as they prepared to go back out and play the game. There would be no fan incidents to report. Still, LeBaron knew that being a team from Dallas that weekend was not a popular thing to be. “I just remember how deathly silent it was when we took the field,” said LeBaron, adding with a half-smile. “But I was used to war. I was in the Marines.” Helmets on, boys. The Big D stigma What was there not to like about the Dallas Cowboys in 1963? Nothing, really. They were relatively unknown, relatively harmless, headed for their fourth consecutive losing season. They were a welcome sight on almost anyone’s NFL schedule. But the perception which NFL fans had of them would drastically change 45 years ago this month: The NFL team from Dallas — with 12 wins in its first 50 games — was inconsequential no more. “There was a stigma put on us ... [and] it was that way for quite awhile,” LeBaron said. He and his wife, Doralee, drove home to California after the ’63 season, stopping along the way for food, gas and lodging. “Someone would come up and ask, ‘Where you from?’ ” LeBaron recalled. “We’d say ‘Dallas,’ and they’d say, ‘Oh ... you’re the ones that shot the President.’ It was a tough deal for a long time.” On Nov. 24, 1963 — two days after JFK was fatally wounded during a motorcade past Dealey Plaza, the Dallas Cowboys were 27-17 losers on the field and persona non grata in the stands. Don’t blame Cleveland. As ridiculous as it might sound now, the Cowboys were held in a bad light because of so much national anguish. People were scared. The Rozelle controversy Rozelle became a huge target of public criticism that weekend. His decision to play seven football games at a time of profound grieving and national insecurity was not well-received. Even a faction of NFL ownership resented it. Dan Rooney just recently wrote in his autobiography, Dan Rooney: My 75 Years with the Pittsburgh Steelers and the NFL: “[Rozelle] later told me it was the wrong decision, one of the few he regretted making during his term as commissioner.” Rooney, who was 31 at the time, learned something about himself that day, too. “There are more important things,” he wrote in his book, “than playing football every Sunday.” Games went on as scheduled at New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Milwaukee (Green Bay), Minnesota and Los Angeles. None was televised. Rozelle took in the Giants’ 24-17 win over the St. Louis Cardinals at Yankee Stadium. He later told the New York Times: “I could not concentrate on the game. I brooded about my decision the entire game.” Meanwhile, the rival American Football League cancelled its full slate of games ... out of respect to the President. ‘Mr. Kennedy’s game’ “We were at practice when we got the news that President Kennedy had been shot,” LeBaron recalled. “A pall immediately hung over the guys.” As more and more information began to trickle in, LeBaron heard someone mention the book depository building in downtown Dallas. “Gosh, I drive past that place every day,” said LeBaron, who also worked at the time for a Dallas legal firm. Once JFK’s assassination became official shortly after 1 p.m. Friday, NFL games became on-again/off-again. For half the teams, their travels plans were placed in limbo. Behind the commissioner’s unpopular decision (even to himself) were two little known facts: 1.) Rozelle was very close to the Kennedy family and 2.) JFK’s press secretary, Pierre Salinger, had conferred with Rozelle and given his blessing to play the games. The Nov. 24 Star-Telegram ran a Saturday photo in its Sunday editions that showed Bart Starr and several other Packers — wearing stocking caps and winter jackets — holding a somber walk-through directly in front of a flag flown at half staff. On the same page was a five-inch wire story. “It has been traditional in sports for athletes to perform in times of great personal tragedy,” Rozelle said. “Football was Mr. Kennedy’s game. He thrived on competition.” Nice try, commissioner. Browns 27, Cowboys 17 Cleveland was a team the Cowboys had beaten only once in seven tries. The Browns won at the Cotton Bowl 41-24 in an earlier matchup in ’63. The effects of what happened in Dallas on Nov. 22 would actually become something of an equalizer in the Nov. 24 game. Because no one on either team felt like playing it. Players felt detached from the Xs and Os. Fans sat in abject sorrow. The atmosphere more reflected a Sunday afternoon at church than a football game. But that changed when Frank Ryan completed an 11-yard touchdown pass to Gary Collins in the first quarter. The crowd roared. (LeBaron can still remember the sudden ringing in his ears.) A sense of normalcy had returned ... if only for a couple more hours. The game was lost on two fourth-quarter Don Meredith interceptions turned into touchdowns. “The Browns were hanging onto a slim 13-10 edge going into the fourth quarter when Ross Fichtner intercepted Meredith’s pass and raced 36 yards into the end zone for what proved to be the clinching counter,” the Star-Telegram reported. Jim Brown managed only 51 yards on 17 carries. This was his worst game of the season. He would finish ’63 with a career-best 1,863 yards. Cornell Green of the Cowboys capped the scoring with a 20-yard fumble return for a touchdown. It was too little, too late. Meredith finished 13 of 30 for 93 yards, no touchdowns, four INTs. Like Brown, it was a game he would just as soon forget. Villanueva’s amnesia Players and coaches, leaguewide, were affected by the emotional drain of Nov. 22-24, 1963. Although their struggles weren’t always visible to the naked eye. Game results looked pretty much the same as usual. NFL teams in ’63 averaged 22 points a game. On Nov. 24, they averaged just under 20. In Los Angeles, future Cowboys punter/kicker Danny Villanueva — deeply distraught over the death of President Kennedy — kicked a game-winning field goal in a 17-16 Rams victory over Baltimore. If only he could remember it. “We didn’t want to play. We were made to play,” Villanueva recalled. “A pretty big crowd [48,000] showed up at the L.A. Coliseum. I think people wanted a little respite from all the dreariness and darkness of the day.” In contrast to his vivid memory of how Rams fans looked as they “sat and watched and politely applauded,” Villanueva has no recollection of the game itself. Not even the winning FG. “It was like I blocked it out of my mind, it was such a terrible day,” Villanueva told Old ’Boys Club. “It appears that I kicked a field goal late in the game to win it ... but I can’t even tell you who we played.” Danny’s nephew recently sent him a dog-eared newspaper clipping from the L.A. Herald-Examiner, dated Nov. 25, 1963. “From the pictures, you could see the flags at half-mast ... and a game-winning field goal kicked by me,” Villaneuva said. “It was really the first time I knew about it.” Epilogue In Cleveland, “Ray Renfro Day” was postponed because of the JFK assassination. The retiring Browns receiver and a future Cowboys assistant coach was to be honored at halftime. The Star-Telegram wrote in its Nov. 25, 1963, editions: “Browns officials said Renfro, the former North Texas State star now living in Fort Worth, would be presented with numerous gifts at a later date.” The Oswald-Ruby picture on the S-T’s front page became one of the most enduring photos of the ’60s. Staff writer Thayer Waldo’s lead story read: “A man in a brown hat and trench coat lunged forward, shoved a snub-nosed .38 revolver against the prisoner’s abdomen, and fired once. All hell broke loose.” Star-Telegram sports columnist Joe Trinkle wrote: “[Kennedy] was a sportsman, born to competition and urged to compete. He was competing the instant his heart stopped beating.” On a personal note, I was a teenager growing up in Northeastern Ohio in 1963. I was among the 55,096 at the Nov. 24 Cleveland game. Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2008/11/28/1063711/1963-dallas-cowboys-were-put-in.html#storylink=cpy

I believe the AFL, NHL and NBA all cancelled their games on Sunday, leaving the NFL as the only sport to go on as scheduled. Back in those days, no NHL games were ever played on Friday, so there were no games scheduled on the day of JFK's assassination. But I think the NBA and NHL games scheduled for Saturday the 23rd still were played...I'm trying to confirm that as soon as I can(I'm stuck at work today).

Sunday afternoon of November 24, 1963. While the NFL played their games, the body of JFK was being prepared to make its way from the White House to the Capitol Rotunda, where it would 'Lie In State', and Oswald was about to be transferred from Dallas Police to the County Jail. This is from CBS's coverage beginning at 12:07 p.m. EST that day 50 years ago. Walter Cronkite going over the Oswald shooting.

November 24, 1963...11:21 a.m. CST. Jack Ruby shoots Lee Harvey Oswald as the Dallas Police are escorting Oswald out. This happens on live television...probably the very first instance of a murder taking place as millions watch it happen on tv. Conspiracy theories were bound to happen with Kennedy's assassination anyway, but in my opinion, the killing of Oswald was the Rosetta Stone of the whole nightmare weekend. Without a chance of a trial and to hear from Lee Harvey Oswald himself, the country never got a real chance of closure. Too many questions were left unanswered and probably unknowable for the rest of time. This kick-started the rumour mill in overdrive and led to the conspiracy theory industry that has thrived on the Kennedy assassination for decades. One such conspiracy has it that Jack Ruby was hired by the Mob to kill Oswald to keep him from talking. There are two problems with that theory. 1. Jack Ruby was not the kind of guy you would entrust with such an important and covert act. Ruby was a talker, a guy who couldn't keep his mouth shut...he couldn't keep a secret for five minutes. 2. A gun shot to the stomach does not ensure a kill. That's why most mob executions are done to the head. Ruby would have shot Oswald in the head if this was a mob hit, as he would have been instructed to...just like Michael Corleone was in "The Godfather".

That's a nice quote. EXCEPT IT'S FALSE!!! Kennedy never said that. The original meme that made the rounds on the internet even misspelled the word 'noble' as 'nolbe'.

Oh yeah...I forgot to say what I had for dinner. Cochinita pibil: Pork, slowly roasted in a Banana leaf with chile habanero and pickled red onions. Served with black beans, rice, fried plantains, nopalitos. Bottle of Red Stripe beer.

This begs the question "Southern fried" how? Southern India? Southern England? Southern U.S.? Good to know you're getting your sodium requirement. Come on, man...us french toast fanatics need details! What kind of bread, thin or thick slices, what's your dipping mixture, toppings???? Questions, questions, questions. Hahaha.

I love it when the sunset casts everything with a pink and purple glow.

I found this very touching. http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/11/21/3394441/memories-of-jfk-and-a-teens-promise.html

Bon chance et bon appétit! Any hint as to what's on the menu?

Wow! That means both you and the chase had nieces that give birth yesterday...INCREDIBLE!!!

Hi Fire Opal! Tried PMing you but your mailbox is full, so I'll post greetings here. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU! I'm just waking up so I apologize for getting this out a little late in the day to you. Hope you had a splendid Celebration Day amongst your friends and family. Best wishes to you. Cheers, Sean

At 12:53am. EST at the end of a very long day, David Brinkley of NBC News did a masterful and poignant summing up of the horrific events of November 22, 1963, just before signing off for the night.

The arrival of Air Force One at Andrews Air Force Base from Dallas. LBJ's remarks at Andrews Air Force Base upon arrival.

Calling someone 'wacko' isn't quite as harsh as calling them a 'twat'. And if one wants to dishonour the victims of 9/11 by saying they were murdered by their own country, well, I as an American, am definitely going to take issue with that.

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Lest we forget...Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit lost his life, too. Dallas WFAA-TV report on the shooting of Tippit and Oswald's arrest:

Thank you chase. I concur. Disagreement is fine, but leave the tacky, sexist (or racist/homophobic) insults out of it.

Released on this very day 50 years ago in the U.K. (but not in the U.S.)...The Beatles second album "With the Beatles". Hard to imagine such happiness exploding into the world on the same day as JFK's murder.

The only one who seems desperate is you, sir. I have already listed several well-researched books that debunk several of the more prevalent conspiracy theories and show that Oswald was the gunman. That 'George Hickey accidentally shoots Kennedy' that everyone is talking about over on the Conspiracy thread like it is a recent development was debunked years ago as it is an old theory from 1977. Look, I never said all conspiracies are untrue...the CIA did want to assassinate Castro and it did play a part in assassinating Allende in Chile. The Pentagon Papers showed there was malfeasance and dirty goings on in Vietnam. I, for many years, thought there had to be another gunman in JFK's murder, and as a child of Vietnam and Watergate, was predisposed to believe in a massive conspiracy to murder JFK. But years of reading and looking at all the available evidence and science has led me to the conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the killer. Unfortunately, thanks to Jack Ruby, we will never know for sure what his motives were. Was Oswald a pawn for some shadowy forces? Again, it's impossible to know for certain. I assume you meant 1:25pm EST? Which would have been 12:25pm CST...close to the 12:30pm time of shooting. It's difficult to nail it down precisely because some of the news reports posted don't list the time correctly or specify the Time Zone aired. But 1:00pm CST was the time Kennedy was pronounced dead. The report probably was broadcast shortly after that.

Arguing with you people is pointless. You wouldn't believe it was Oswald even if he came to you as a ghost and confessed. Tell you what...why don't you conspiracy wackos go find the real killer: Bigfoot!