This is fucking Awesome!!!!!

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The discussion itself is irrelevant.

Question: when did the term "gay" become a "homosexual slur"? I guess you could say it has to do with the context its used in, but in this case its a real stretch. Kinda like calling someone a racist for using the term 'black' instead of 'african american'. I understand how offensive names such as meat smoker, booty bandit, fudge packer, rump rooter (just made that up), pudding pusher, turd tickler, gerbil jouster, anus angler....are all obvious homosexual slurs...but "gay"? Political correctness is a pet peeve of mine....sorry. THIS THREAD MUST BE DERAILED

My guess? It was Plants decision. Steve Albini: “I was impressed with how collaborative Page and Plant were, bearing in mind that there was a previously existing power structure where it was Jimmy Page’s band and Robert was hired to be the singer and in the interim, Robert had gone on to become a very successful solo artist and now should be able to call the shots in a lot of situations. Jimmy was deferential to him in that regard.”

I never knew that Page played with Clapton's band a few months before the ARMS concert.

Question: I've read that too and i'm wondering why thats being said? Pretty sure their last song was Slaves & Bulldozers and Cornell is said to have quoted just the refrain from IMTOD during this song...but I don't even hear that . Am I missing something here?

Who really gives a shit whether or not LZ changed music? Whatever it is that they did made one hell of an impact and I'm still feeling it. Nobody really changes music anyways, except for the music industry, they decide what to feed the masses.

Michael Parks passed away at age 77. Such an underrated actor, one of my all time personal favorites. http://time.com/4775297/micheal-parks-twin-peaks-dies/

I've been listening to 4/25/77 (Kentucky) recently and thoroughly enjoying it. The band is very...rowdy and in good mood on this night.

Never seen this addition to an old clip. Watch at the end how the promoter is about to open a briefcase full of cash and Richard Cole 'slams' it shut. Obviously, that is a big no no and that guy let out a nervous chuckle...oops!

My post had nothing to do with JPJ being notified about the project between Page & Plant doing LZ songs that he was left out of. And who the fuck are you to tell me what "to get the fuck over already"? Really? Get a fucking grip on yourself dude and be careful how you speak to people.

Exactly. It was a total asshole move on Plants part to publicly say that about Jones after he was left out of the project, and replaced by Plants bassist and keyboardist on top of it?. How people minimize that really surprises me. Does anybody think JPJ found Plants comment funny? I seriously fucking doubt it.

Why was JPJ disinvited from Page/Plant? Because Plant was calling the shots at this point in time and he didn't want him there, thats why. Thats a no brainer. Page certainly would have relished having JPJ on board, but Plant was having none of that. Plant wanted 'his' drummer and 'his' bass player (who i believe was married to Plants daughter at the time) and that was that. I think Plants response to the question: "where's JPJ?" said it all, "he's parking the car". That was truly disrespectful as well as unforgivable IMO, and it speaks volumes about the relationship between Plant & JPJ. I think its interesting to note that shortly after the 2007 reunion JPJ was asked what were the future possibilities for more and JPJ responded with a simple: "I don't know, I just know I want to play with Jimmy again". Notice how he didn't mention wanting to play with Plant? There is no love lost between those two....

It wasn't Peter Grants job to take care of Plants voice. 'Oh Robert, you mustn't smoke, now its time to do your pre-show vocal exercises, uh oh, its getting late, you must go night night now, we have a show tomorrow dear boy. Robert, you mustn't showboat so much, you'll strain your precious voice. Oh dear, Roberts caught the flu again, sorry chaps but we'll have to cancel another tour'. Yeah.....right. And yeah, "Peter Grant got them their money", that is, in fact, a managers job, and he did it very well.

I would love for Page or Jones to be asked that question. I'm willing to bet that Page wasn't worried about it because Plant always performed great when recording their albums, much like himself. Live? 'Fuck it, just get out there, act like you own the place, and do your best'. I'll bet Jones feelings were similar, the show must go on folks. Nowadays a singer like Adele catches a cold and the whole tour is cancelled, thats not how Zeppelin rolled. I'm also willing to bet that they'd both comment on how well Plant adapted to his vocal issues and how much of a struggle it had to be for him to get through it.

Exactly!!!