I would add that Zeppelin may have been somewhat wary of Tull back in the day. Tull supported on Zeppelin gigs through the Summer 69 tour. In some instances Tull received very favorable reviews; at times it was reported that Tull outshined Zeppelin. As preposterous is it may sound now that we know how great Zeppelin became, place yourself back in 1969, even before LZ II was released. How confident was anyone that Zeppelin would become the greatest rock band of all time? No one was. I just rewatched the Plant/Page NYC 1970 press conference where Jimmy states no one knew it would be like this, or words to that effect. My observation is that part of the reason Zeppelin started putting on shows with no support acts from 1970 is that they witnessed firsthand how a headliner can be upstaged. They themselves did it to Iron Butterfly and Vanilla Fudge. What better way to guarantee it would never happen to them than to go without support acts? Yes, it gave them the freedom to play as long as they pleased - their primary stated reason (not to mention arrive whenever they pleased), but again consider the mentality in 1970. I'd venture to say there was a rivalry and wariness toward Tull.

Kicking off 1971, Stairway, Black Dog, GTC live for the first time!

To be followed by the MSG doubleheader to bring 1970 to a close.

Welcome, Peg! Don't know how much of the band you've seen yet, but set aside 2.5 hrs for The Song Remains the Same film. Plenty of Jimmy to feast your eyes on. The Royal Albert Hall 1970 concert featured on the LedZep dvd as well as the Earls Court 1975 footage for Stairway and Knebworth 79 for Achilles. As for audio recordings I've been listening to alot of 1970 lately. Immigrant/Heartbreaker/Dazed were the first three tracks from June forward that year. May be right up your alley. Google around, you're bound to find some great shows from the summer North American tour in particular. Enjoy!

Detroit strikes again in this category. Detroit Just About Back (75) sounded like someone was chewing Rice Krispies for 90 minutes. And I tried two copies of it!

And the Blueberry Hill show is next!

Great story!! Thanks for posting! Can't you just picture a scene like the "Stroll On" sequence in Blow Up? As the article alludes to, the Yardbirds mimed to "Heart Full of Soul" on the Upbeat tv program on April 25, the day before this prom. There's also a recording of their show on the evening of April 25 at the Allen Theatre in Cleveland.

The story goes the taper's batteries expired nearly an hour into the show! Arrrrggggggh. Well, hats off for risking the wrath of Peter Grant.

What there is of Detroit 8/28/70. 😬

Fascinating insights into the creative process.

Finishing up the Spring 1970 tour.

^^^ haha I just finished that one! Europe 73 rightfully gets lotsa love. Europe 70 not too shabby. Vienna, Hamburg, Dusseldorf comin up. Amazing stuff!

November/December 69 then on to 1970 is the order of the day.

Covering June-August 69 today. Robert was other-worldly during this period!

Checking out the 25th, 26th and 27th today.

Alluded to earlier in the thread, the outtakes reveal they had some difficulty working out IMTOD. Bonzo was suggesting count-ins to get in and out of some of the transitions, recalling back to Black Dog, which he and Robert discussed during the session fragment we've heard.

I'm doing a Zeppelin "ultrasound." Viewing/listening to all available Yardbirds material from June 66 to June 68. This is the final stage. The "ninth month." Fascinating trip! Highly recommended.

Wew!!

The Willie Dixon lawsuit was settled out of court. Sole credit to Dixon was part of the deal. Seems the lawyers felt as though litigating the case would've likely resulted in Dixon being awarded even more money than he settled for. They must've viewed the two versions close enough -- especially lyrically - they didn't want to risk having a jury decide.

No doubt. I've been listening to the '80 tour. It's noteworthy that Kashmir became the last song before Stairway and Achilles was moved up. Not that Achilles is any slouch, but between those two tracks, Kashmir outshone ALS.

We've had numerous threads on this topic, but would like to get it straight from Jimmy, what was the 80's Part 1 set list going to be? Would like to put a number of set list questions to him: Why was Dazed dropped in 77? Why was White Summer/BMS brought back and retained in 79/80? (not accepting 'why not' as the answer) Why reach all the way back to Train as the 1980 opener? (ditto ^^) Was there concern that by 1980 the lion's share of the set was material over 6 years old (based on date recorded)? How much longer could you have expected to rely heavily on material from PG and prior? Mostly questions from Zeppelin's later years, yes, but so many more could be asked about all eras.

I have a hard time cueing up yt vids too. Glad to help if you can specify where in the vid you're referring.

Was reading comments under the Memphis 1970 concert, which led me to investigate Zeppelin's Elvis encounters. Wondering if the following comment from Elvis's step brother (!!) sheds a bit more light on Zeppelin and Elvis crossing paths during their respective 1977 tours? David Stanley I was 14 years old when Led Zeppelin came to Memphis on April 17, 1970. As the youngest step-brother to Elvis Presley I was living at the Graceland Mansion. My divorced mother Dee Stanley married Elvis' widowed father Vernon Presley on July 3, 1960. Anyway I went to the concert with a friend and was blown away. John Bonham playing his solo on Moby Dick, Jimmy Page stroking his Les Paul with a fiddle bow, John Paul Jones laying down heavy bass and of course the driving voice of Robert Plant. While growing up as Presley's step-brother I was no stranger to great music. But it was Led Zeppelin that became MY MUSIC while growing up the King. I started touring with Presley in 1972 when I was 16. I always had Zeppelin's music with me. In 1974 while at the LA Forum Led Zeppelin came to see Elvis. Later that night after the show Robert, Jimmy and John Bonham came to Elvis’ suite at the hotel across the street from the Forum. I met them as they came off the elevator and walked with them to Elvis' s room. I introduced myself, shook their hands and got their autograph. Of all the people I met during my life with Elvis, it was only Led Zeppelin's autograph that I asked for. As I continued to tour with Elvis till his death in 1977 I would often ask my friend Tom Hewlett and Jerry Weintraub of Concerts West (the tour company that handled Elvis and Zeppelin) how the Boys were doing. He always gave me updates. There was one other time the Presley tour ran across the band while out on the road. It was at the Washington/Baltimore airport. We (the Presley tour) were playing in Washington and Led Zeppelin was playing at the Capital Centre. We arrived on the Lisa Marie, Elvis' Private Jet, and Led Zeppelin arrived on the Caesar's Chariot. It was a hell of a sight to see these two private jets sitting side by side on the private tarmac. I asked Elvis if I could go with the band that night for their concert. He just looked at me and said "no". When I asked him why he said "look at the bottom of your paycheck'". As I entered the limo with Elvis I said they sure have a nice jet. Elvis leaned over and reminded me that they lease their jet from Caesar's Palace, I own mine. To me Led Zeppelin was and still is the greatest band in the world. Thanks Guys For So Many Great Memories. David E. Stanley Writer/Director/Producer

Thought for a second there, Peter's jacket was the Knebworth 79 jacket I have. Different size of course!! My jacket is also red and has the Swan Song logo same place but it's not button down. Same type of stripes/material on the collar, wrists and bottom/waist. Mine zips about halfway down and has a cross zipper pouch (very European I guess!). On the back is the Led Zeppelin logo in white above the words "Knebworth Park August 11 1979." Worn by the stage crew at the shows. I think you can see one at the end of one the videos; round the encores when the band leaves/re-enters the stage. One of my prized possessions!

When I was in school, I had a radio show on the college station I called 'Whole Lotta Zep.' Two hours once per week. I patterned it after a typical concert but covering all eras of the band. Typical opening numbers to start, a blues segment, acoustic set, STH sometime in the last half hour, typical encores to finish. It was great fun! I included solo stuff and other bands covering Zep too. No reason why Sirius can't do that. (unless there are limitations in their broadcast license?) Perhaps they could do a "mini concert" a few times a day, including requests/suggestions.