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Hi Brad,all,

Hasan Nadal the Fort Hood shooter is being arraigned today.My predictions? Death penalty or not?

Remember he will be tried in a military court as he was a member of the US Army at the time.

If proven guilty he should be shot by firing squad. Unfortunately the military has gone PC and will inject him.

Ho hum,...

KB

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Ah, my stupid brother. He was recently convicted for molesting his granddaughter and sentenced to 6 years in prison.

I know he's my brother but I can't forgive him for this and I wonder if he even realizes the total effect this will have on everyone he's ever known and that when he's released he will be branded for the rest of his life, however long that may be.

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Ah, my stupid brother. He was recently convicted for molesting his granddaughter and sentenced to 6 years in prison.

I know he's my brother but I can't forgive him for this and I wonder if he even realizes the total effect this will have on everyone he's ever known and that when he's released he will be branded for the rest of his life, however long that may be.

My condolences, redrum. I hope your family will be able to cope in this sad time.

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My condolences, redrum. I hope your family will be able to cope in this sad time.

My condolences, redrum. I hope your family will be able to cope in this sad time.

The funny part is that a lot of the family don't even know about it yet. But thanks.

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Ah, my stupid brother. He was recently convicted for molesting his granddaughter and sentenced to 6 years in prison.

I know he's my brother but I can't forgive him for this and I wonder if he even realizes the total effect this will have on everyone he's ever known and that when he's released he will be branded for the rest of his life, however long that may be.

My brother's new home...San Quentin. He was admitted Dec. 20, 2012.

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Hey Red, sorry to hear about this.

I know he's your brother, but I admit my first thought was...wow, only 6 years? My second was that I hope your grandniece is doing okay and that she is/was getting whatever help she needs to deal with what was done to her.

I hope your brother has to serve his sentence in its entirety and that he never gets an opportunity to molest his granddaughter or anyone else again...ever.

On a lighter note, I used to be able to see "the Q" from where I lived in Marin County many years ago. It was just across the water a bit. I daresay it looked better when viewed from a distance than when seen close up.

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Hey Red, sorry to hear about this.

I know he's your brother, but I admit my first thought was...wow, only 6 years? My second was that I hope your grandniece is doing okay and that she is/was getting whatever help she needs to deal with what was done to her.

I hope your brother has to serve his sentence in its entirety and that he never gets an opportunity to molest his granddaughter or anyone else again...ever.

On a lighter note, I used to be able to see "the Q" from where I lived in Marin County many years ago. It was just across the water a bit. I daresay it looked better when viewed from a distance than when seen close up.

Hi Lake, haven't seen you in a while. :^)

Yes, from what I understand it was an ongoing thing with the granddaughter. How he hid it is anyone's guess. I don't know what the long term effect it will have on her but I do know the long term effect it will have on him as I feel his life is ruined. And I kinda have a feeling he won't do the full sentence. That seems to be the way of the justice system and prison overcrowding. And I always think of this movie when something like this happens. I'm also guessing he'll be put in protective custody. My feelings are he is a total dumb ass. :^(

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Thanks. Yeah, it's a hard one to come to grips with.

hey Redrum, I have a brother and could not imagine what it would be like having to deal with a simliar situation that you are in. All the best to you and your family. I wish i could say something meaningful right now but am at a loss...peace
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hey Redrum, I have a brother and could not imagine what it would be like having to deal with a simliar situation that you are in. All the best to you and your family. I wish i could say something meaningful right now but am at a loss...peace

Thanks fishhead. My parents had 13 children (7 girls, 6 boys) and I am the 'baby'. Yet none of us ever got into any serious trouble as adults (some juvenile trouble and a DUI here and there) but nothing as serious as this. He has put a blot on the family name and I can't help thinking the effect it will have on all his friends and the rest of the family. He will also have to deal with being branded a sex offender when he's released and deal with the shame of having his name and address printed in the local paper wherever he ends up living after his release. I'm also wondering if he can even survive prison life as he is 66 years old. He has a lot of health problems too so that can't help either. From what I've read he is able to choose to be in protective custody and I hope he makes the right choice there. Otherwise he will definitely be a target.

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Wikipedia states that of 2007 there are 264 privately run prisions in the United States housing 99,000 inmates. Several religious organizations have called for their outright abolishment and for very good reasons I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_prison#cite_note-autogenerated1-12

It's just another corporate endevour that's profitable. Those recreational drug users aren't going to be set free anytime soon.

So true. I'm always amazed that most Americans don't realize the inherent problem with privately run correctional facilities. The corporations who run them can only expand their businesses if the number of inmates increases. That gives them an incentive to lobby for harsher sentencing guidelines. More people in prison might be good for the corporations that run them, but it's not good for the taxpayers or for the non-violent offenders who might have previously received suspended sentences.

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So true. I'm always amazed that most Americans don't realize the inherent problem with privately run correctional facilities. The corporations who run them can only expand their businesses if the number of inmates increases. That gives them an incentive to lobby for harsher sentencing guidelines. More people in prison might be good for the corporations that run them, but it's not good for the taxpayers or for the non-violent offenders who might have previously received suspended sentences.

Who said crime doesn't pay? <_<

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The on-going case in Charlottesville, where a man abducted an 18 year old girl -- who's still missing -- is big news here in Virginia. This same suspect has now been linked to the murder of another young woman in 2009, and to the sexual assault of a third woman in 2005. The case is sensitive because the suspect is black and all of the victims were white.

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The on-going case in Charlottesville, where a man abducted an 18 year old girl -- who's still missing -- is big news here in Virginia. This same suspect has now been linked to the murder of another young woman in 2009, and to the sexual assault of a third woman in 2005. The case is sensitive because the suspect is black and all of the victims were white.

He does look good for it but time will tell. Among other things, I would like to know why he left Christopher Newport College.

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Psychiatrist Who Examined Jared Fogle: Weight Loss from Subway Diet Caused 'Hypersexuality' that Led to Prostitutes

Three months before former Subway pitchman Jared Fogle was sentenced to 15 years and eight months in federal prison for charges related to sex with minors and child pornography, he spent two days in Canada being evaluated by a forensic psychiatrist considered an expert in sexual deviance.

John Bradford, a professor at the University of Ottawa, tells PEOPLE that Fogle has hypersexuality that kicked in after the dramatic weight loss that made him famous, that he only has "mild" pedophilia, and that he spent at least $12,000 a year on prostitutes. (Fogle's attorney declined comment to PEOPLE for this article.)

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John Bradford, a professor at the University of Ottawa, tells PEOPLE that Fogle has hypersexuality that kicked in after the dramatic weight loss that made him famous, that he only has "mild" pedophilia, and that he spent at least $12,000 a year on prostitutes. (Fogle's attorney declined comment to PEOPLE for this article.)

I don't know what "mild pedophilia" could be as there has to be a LINE DRAWN between adults and children which should NEVER be crossed under any circumstances.

And that being said, at my age(mid '50s) I still feel sort of icky about myself when lust after hot young women in their early '40s.  Is this the price of getting old?<_<

 

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Here is a legal term for people to understand (applies to laws in the USA)

PROBABLE CAUSE

n. sufficient reason based upon known facts to believe a crime has been committed or that certain property is connected with a crime. Probable cause must exist for a law enforcement officer to make an arrest without a warrant, search without a warrant, or seize property in the belief the items were evidence of a crime.

Discussion:

In the USA the standard for probable cause (aka: PC) is generally established by "reasonable suspicion" which would be the what would cause a 'reasonable, prudent and cautious' person to determine that certain facts are probably true.

Probable cause is not generally assumed from such broad determinations as a "hunch" of other such factors which do not stand the test of reasonableness.  For example:  a person of any race, age or gender standing outside a business in a high crime area in broad daylight while that establishment is open for business would not be sufficient 'probable cause' for a law enforcement officer to stop and frisk that person. However the same person at 3AM when that business is not open for business might give a 'reasonable' person sufficient cause to investigate.  In the first example the actions of the individual do not amount to a 'reasonable suspicion'--- it is just some person standing on the street. But the time, place and manner associated with the 2nd example would be a reasonable suspicion given the other factors mentioned.

It should be noted however that even in the daytime example if another person (citizen, shopkeeper etc) were to call the police and say, "there is this person outside my business who seems suspicious to me and who has been hanging out and I am concerned."; then in that case "probable cause" has been established and the police would then be free to investigate based on the concerns of the citizen being provided and then a 'stop and frisk' the individual. Which is not to say make an arrest, but they can detain them for a limited time for their investigation. However, reasonable suspicion does not apply just because a person refuses to answer questions, or declines to allow a voluntary search, or is of a particular race.

 

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^ I've said here before, you can't take stop and frisk away from the police, and expect them to keep the streets safe. But let's suppose I was the target of this, and they found my pipe and bag of goodies - even though they were looking for weapons or burglary tools. Could they confiscate it, or arrest me? Assume it's not legal, and a decent amount.

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^ I've said here before, you can't take stop and frisk away from the police, and expect them to keep the streets safe. But let's suppose I was the target of this, and they found my pipe and bag of goodies - even though they were looking for weapons or burglary tools. Could they confiscate it, or arrest me? Assume it's not legal, and a decent amount.

In that situation the best thing is to not say ANYTHING to the police and lawyer up. If it is contraband they have the right to confiscate it even during a stop and frisk. But the key to your defense will always be that you did not consent to the search, which is why no matter what happens in any stop you need to always make it clear to the police that YOU DO NOT CONSENT TO A SEARCH of your person or your property even as you may be legally required to comply.  Usually you know where your out is when a police officer says something like, "we are just doing a routine ____ in the interest of safety so you don't mind if I just take a quick peek inside your bag do you and then you can just move along?  

Answer is always to be: "No thank you officer, I do not consent to a search,"  Now he may try to use some Jedi mind shit on you, or shame you, but no matter what you get the no consent thing on the record IN ALL POLICE encounters because of just the thing you mentioned--- they still have a job to do and we can't take away stop and frisk--- at least not in the kind of world we live it, and YOU WILL COMPLY to all legal demand by the police, but if during that search which you have not consented to something is found--- your lawyer will make a good case for having that evidence disqualified on the basis of there not being probable cause for a search without a warrant. But you have to not trip yourself up by SAYING ANYTHING.  You don't say: it's not mine; you don't say it was for a friend; you don't even say you didn't know it was in there.  You respectfully inform the police officer that under the advice of council you will not be saying anything without a lawyer.

If the cop wants to be a prick and jack you up he may still do that.  But you and I both know that doing something to make it worse like puffing up and acting physical is a bad move too. And this is why in my opinion decriminalization on the "contraband" you mentioned makes sense. Let the police focus on the issues that are really a threat to our peace and security.

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