the body electric Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 There is a new documentary about Ginger Baker that I want to see. It won best documentary at South By Southwest: http://movies.nytime...nger-baker.html http://www.nytimes.c...nger-baker.html This looks interesting to me, a fan of that era, band, and musician. Baker claims Bonham and Moon, if alive, would say he is the better drummer, which I doubt. But for me it's not an either/or thing. I love Ginger Baker, and other drummers. Bonham is my favorite, and Neil Peart, Terry Bozzio, Keith Moon, and Bill Bruford round out my top five. I also love Stewart Copeland, Dave Grohl, Tony Williams, Danny Carey, Steve Gadd, Lars Ulrich, Jack DeJohnette, Mitch Mitchell, John Stanier, Billy Cobham, and Art Blakey. So Ginger Baker is an opinionated crank. I kinda like him that way. Bonham is the greater drummer, but I can say as a musician and a drummer back in the day that Disraeli Gears and Wheels of Fire totally blew me away. In The Light since 1972 Trampled Under Foot. My life with Led Zeppelin. http://petedelorean.tumblr.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledded1 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Small item in Classic Rock magazine A proposed Cream reunion has been cancelled after the latest internal argument. The trio had been considering a tour in 2013 but bassist/vocalist Jack Bruce told the BBC." I think that ginger upset Eric this time so it's not happening" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crizman Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Ginger is a great drummer,better than Bonham or Moon - not in my opinion. He took some real shots at Bonham in the documentary. being a great drummer does'nt excuse being a D*ck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireOpal Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 One gets the sense - at least I do - when reading about Mr. Baker that he's as mad as a box of frogs, and scary/unpleasant to be around. Amazing drummer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEBASTIAN_V3TTEL Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Thanks for the info! Baker is one of my favourite drummers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chase Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 "Rather than keeping the beat, Mr. Baker opened it up, adding layers and nuances without sacrificing his innate, unerring sense of time. He was wilder than steady rhythm players like Charlie Watts, and also far more disciplined and subtle than showboating wild men like Moon and Bonham." What bullshit! John Bonham was NOT a showboating wild man... Keith Moon showboated but it was always extremely musical... He's a great Drummer, he was influential. A friend of mine just yesterday told me that Ginger Baker learned to read music in 2 weeks...very impressive. But, I'm so sick of this ornery bitter old man staking his claim by shitting on other greats.... especially other greats who are gone and can't respond ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 He is playing in the Opera House in Buxton next year. Ginger Baker Jazz Confusion: They once voted Ginger Baker as ‘the musician least likely to survive the 60s’. Now, four and a bit decades later, Ginger proved them all wrong, returned to the UK and formed a formidable quartet with funk and jazz giant Pee Wee Ellis, tenor sax, Alec Dankworth, bass, and Abass Dodoo, percussion. The music is a healthy mix of Thelonius Monk, Wayne Shorter, Sonny Rollins, plus originals of Pee Wee Ellis and Mr. Baker, with Ginger Baker and Ghanaian percussionist Abass Dodoo providing a perfect powerhouse of rhythms in this challenging and fresh sounding programme! Location: Buxton Opera House £16, £18 Anyone know if this will be worth the 10 minutes drive up the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chase Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 He is playing in the Opera House in Buxton next year. Ginger Baker Jazz Confusion: They once voted Ginger Baker as ‘the musician least likely to survive the 60s’. Now, four and a bit decades later, Ginger proved them all wrong, returned to the UK and formed a formidable quartet with funk and jazz giant Pee Wee Ellis, tenor sax, Alec Dankworth, bass, and Abass Dodoo, percussion. The music is a healthy mix of Thelonius Monk, Wayne Shorter, Sonny Rollins, plus originals of Pee Wee Ellis and Mr. Baker, with Ginger Baker and Ghanaian percussionist Abass Dodoo providing a perfect powerhouse of rhythms in this challenging and fresh sounding programme! Location: Buxton Opera House £16, £18 Anyone know if this will be worth the 10 minutes drive up the road? I'm sure musically it would be worth the drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 But I can say as a musician and a drummer back in the day that Disraeli Gears and Wheels of Fire totally blew me away. Yep, I was there too and saw them many times at the old Fillmore in SF. 'Toad' always blew me away. :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the body electric Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Yep, I was there too and saw them many times at the old Fillmore in SF. 'Toad' always blew me away. :^) Crazy. I have spent time in Enumclaw, and Issaquah (sp.?). One of my closest friends from Arizona was from there and I went there to visit him in the 90's. I drank a lot of Rainier beer and discovered KNCU. Peace. In The Light since 1972.l Trampled Under Foot. My life with Led Zeppelin. http://petedelorean.tumblr.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Crazy. I have spent time in Enumclaw, and Issaquah (sp.?). One of my closest friends from Arizona was from there and I went there to visit him in the 90's. I drank a lot of Rainier beer and discovered KNCU. Peace. In The Light since 1972.l Trampled Under Foot. My life with Led Zeppelin. http://petedelorean.tumblr.com/ Cool! Yeah, Enumclaw is quite the change after living in the bay area for almost 50 years. I love it here but just wish the summers were a little longer and the winters a lot shorter. :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pagemeister Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 http://bewareofmrbaker.com/screenings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 "Beware of Mr. Baker" just opened in theatres here in Los Angeles this past weekend...I'll probably see it later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 He was close by back in October. I got these pics from Don Bennett's site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross62 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Great pics of the kit and the man,thanks redrum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Great pics of the kit and the man,thanks redrum! You're welcome. He's got a Facebook page too with tons of old pics. Despite his 'crankiness' I loved the documentary on him. He says: 'If you have a problem with me, punch me in the nose. I won't sue you, I'll punch you back!' Right on, Ginger. No PC man him. The film was an eye opener for me as I never knew much about him before or after The Cream broke up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 A couple more. The cover of his book: 'Hellraiser' With his horses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross62 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Yes,I'm aware of his FB page but have yet to see the film which I'll remedy sometime in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Yes,I'm aware of his FB page but have yet to see the film which I'll remedy sometime in the near future. I've watched it twice already. Sometimes I think Ginger would have made a scary Hells Angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 A good shot of Ginger. Damn, I wish I'd been into photography back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross62 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Sometimes I think Ginger would have made a scary Hells Angel. I'm not so sure GB would've wanted to be a member of a group that would've accepted him. (Thanks,Groucho Marx) A good shot of Ginger. Damn, I wish I'd been into photography back then. Why's that? Very nice pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I'm not so sure GB would've wanted to be a member of a group that would've accepted him. (Thanks,Groucho Marx) Why's that? Very nice pics. The thing was (at least back then) he had the attitude to be a Hells Angel. They were so damned scary back then. We saw many of them in Golden Gate Park in SF and they created quite a bit of trouble. I saw Cream a bunch of times back then and if I'd had a camera I could have gotten lots of what are now considered to be classic photos. My best one I think is of Robin Trower at Winterland in 1974. But by this time the Cream and Hendrix were long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross62 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Yeah,if you've seen some of the interviews posted from Ginger's FB Page that were done last year he basically still retains that attitude and leaves the interviewers broken and searching for a question,any question? that will be answered to their satisfaction. I saw Cream a bunch of times back then and if I'd had a camera I could have gotten lots of what are now considered to be classic photos. My best one I think is of Robin Trower at Winterland in 1974. But by this time the Cream and Hendrix were long gone. Hard luck,that's another good pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Hard luck,that's another good pic. Thanks. I got into photography in 1971 when I was living in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The offspring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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