Mithril46 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 FWIW, both Page and Plant have excellent reasons to want to/ not want to play together again. I must mention as a musician that certain magnetic combinations of musicians can send a given musician to a height just not attained with others. Jimmy's problem(likely) without Robert: I would be amazed if I ever read that in the Firm Jimmy ever said Paul Rodgers while on stage with him greatly inspired his playing. Jimmy liked his voice a lot, but a bronze medal, that's all. And even though I feel Robert hasn't really done much for me since 2000, It is impossible to ignore that in the Un-ledded tour and the 98' P/P tour, inevitably the set lists eventually turned mainly Zep. I do actually think if Jimmy worked hard on an album of originals, Robert may be interested, but Jimmy has not really been able to leave the Zep mentality behind, and Plant understandably wants no reggression. Plus Plant wants all the control anyway. In many ways this whole matter is so stupid, Zep and even Plant( even though post 2000, not my cup of tea) were about change and innovation, and if Page really worked up some amazing(but not Zep-type stuff) Robert might just think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boleskinner Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 In the latest TBL roundup: So what’s in store for 2017? The aforementioned ambitious opera project John Paul Jones has been working on for over four years should come to fruition in 2017. Expect a Robert Plant and The Sensational Spaceshifters album at some point and more touring activity. As for Jimmy Page, a release of his Yardbirds era recordings looks set to appear, as for anything else, we will shall see what unfolds – as I’ve noted before , as far I am concerned, the man owes us nothing. Talk about toeing the party line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Boleskinner said: In the latest TBL roundup: So what’s in store for 2017? The aforementioned ambitious opera project John Paul Jones has been working on for over four years should come to fruition in 2017. Expect a Robert Plant and The Sensational Spaceshifters album at some point and more touring activity. As for Jimmy Page, a release of his Yardbirds era recordings looks set to appear, as for anything else, we will shall see what unfolds – as I’ve noted before , as far I am concerned, the man owes us nothing. Talk about toeing the party line... End of year chroniclers opting to ask "What's in store for 2017?" instead of "What were the highlights of 2016?" says it all, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duojet Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Being born in the late 80s, it's a huge bummer that I don't think I will ever see Jimmy Page play a guitar live. I saw Robert 2 years ago, and it was very good for what he was doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 hour ago, duojet said: Being born in the late 80s, it's a huge bummer that I don't think I will ever see Jimmy Page play a guitar live. I saw Robert 2 years ago, and it was very good for what he was doing. No, you won't. What's really amazing is aside from the 02 show essentially no one under the age of 30 has ever seen him deliver a concert length performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box of Jimmy's Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Do you REALLY believe JPJ is working on a Opera? That was a joke he said as he said years ago as he and his wife were leaving one. Funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box of Jimmy's Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 On 12/28/2016 at 11:12 PM, Boleskinner said: In the latest TBL roundup: So what’s in store for 2017? The aforementioned ambitious opera project John Paul Jones has been working on for over four years should come to fruition in 2017. Expect a Robert Plant and The Sensational Spaceshifters album at some point and more touring activity. As for Jimmy Page, a release of his Yardbirds era recordings looks set to appear, as for anything else, we will shall see what unfolds – as I’ve noted before , as far I am concerned, the man owes us nothing. Talk about toeing the party line... There is no Oprah, Kiddo. That was a Joke made by JPJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlovesvids Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Does anyone know who manages Jimmy now? Is he still with Bill Curbishly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boleskinner Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 1 hour ago, jasonlovesvids said: Does anyone know who manages Jimmy now? Is he still with Bill Curbishly? I believe he's self-managed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril46 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Well this self- management has led( no pun intended) Jimmy into some rather cheesy and quite negatively received behaviors or projects. Supposedly Jimmy had some management for the Outrider thing, but If remember right he either fired them or didn't listen to them much. May have been Phil Carson in the main, correct me if I'm wrong. Funny about JPJ with the Opera, but actually he may competent to handle such a project. The thing with Page never being truthful about the future has turned comical yet a bit sad. But Page was such a musical giant that fans (some) simply can't dispose his words, again his Zep works were almost mythical at times. No one would put up with his nonsense if he was the guitarist in Firefall, or in White Lion. Not perfect analogies, but the point is made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 On 2/14/2017 at 1:04 PM, jasonlovesvids said: Does anyone know who manages Jimmy now? He is under self-management. 47 minutes ago, Mithril46 said: Supposedly Jimmy had some management for the Outrider thing, but If remember right he either fired them or didn't listen to them much. May have been Phil Carson in the main, correct me if I'm wrong. Brian Goode was his manager during the Outrider era. Phil Carlo (not Phil Carson) was Bad Company's tour manager who was brought in for Led Zeppelin's 1980 tour, along with Billy Francis from Rod Stewart's organization. Carlo then served as Jimmy's tour manager during The Firm era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boleskinner Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Being self-managed is another indication that he's not doing, or planning to do much. It seems that his buddy Ross Haflin seems to act as his travelling companion/pseudo-manager. We all saw how that went in Tokyo. Pearl Harbour got better PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Boleskinner said: Being self-managed is another indication that he's not doing, or planning to do much. It seems that his buddy Ross Haflin seems to act as his travelling companion/pseudo-manager. We all saw how that went in Tokyo. Pearl Harbour got better PR. Yep, Ross is kinda like Jimmy's Steve Bannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabst Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Up to this point Page has offered up nothing to manage. No album. No tour. Nothing other than his apparent retirement. Which is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rover Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 What's left creatively and professionally for JP ??? Sorry to say: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boleskinner Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 5 hours ago, The Rover said: What's left creatively and professionally for JP ??? Sorry to say: He doesn't care - he's banging a 20-something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box of Jimmy's Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 On 12/24/2016 at 9:20 PM, Mithril46 said: FWIW, both Page and Plant have excellent reasons to want to/ not want to play together again. I must mention as a musician that certain magnetic combinations of musicians can send a given musician to a height just not attained with others. Jimmy's problem(likely) without Robert: I would be amazed if I ever read that in the Firm Jimmy ever said Paul Rodgers while on stage with him greatly inspired his playing. Jimmy liked his voice a lot, but a bronze medal, that's all. And even though I feel Robert hasn't really done much for me since 2000, It is impossible to ignore that in the Un-ledded tour and the 98' P/P tour, inevitably the set lists eventually turned mainly Zep. I do actually think if Jimmy worked hard on an album of originals, Robert may be interested, but Jimmy has not really been able to leave the Zep mentality behind, and Plant understandably wants no reggression. Plus Plant wants all the control anyway. In many ways this whole matter is so stupid, Zep and even Plant( even though post 2000, not my cup of tea) were about change and innovation, and if Page really worked up some amazing(but not Zep-type stuff) Robert might just think about it. Plant wants no regression so his live shows are 75% Zep songs.....he's actually prostituting Zeppelin in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithril46 Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Well, maybe a slight exaggeration, but basically right. Half the Zeppers are done in different arrangements, but since I haven't heard any of those versions being worthwhile , what's the point ?? Sorry Plant solo fans, I was aboard including "Fate of Nations". Robert also puts a stick in Jimmy's eye when he uses guitarists who Jimmy could outplay with one hand behind his back. Actually this whole topic gets irritating, being that Plant is on Saturn, Jones on Mars, and Jimmy on Pluto. So far away he might as well be in some other universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percyandpagey Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 I really hope Jimmy finally releases some new material! I really hope he starts touring eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boleskinner Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 9 hours ago, percyandpagey said: I really hope Jimmy finally releases some new material! I really hope he starts touring eventually. My advice is don't get your hopes up. I think he's pretty much done. Which is fine by me, he's in his 70s now. But please Jimmy, don't ever say "Next year I'm planning to play live again..." It's now beyond embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percyandpagey Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Boleskinner said: My advice is don't get your hopes up. I think he's pretty much done. Which is fine by me, he's in his 70s now. But please Jimmy, don't ever say "Next year I'm planning to play live again..." It's now beyond embarrassing. Yes that's what I've gathered unfortunately from this forum Hadn't realized he'd been promising this for so long! Also I thought perhaps there was a better chance since he's done rereleasing materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box of Jimmy's Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Jimmy will living in the past until death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Box of Jimmy's said: Jimmy will living in the past until death. That's a nice thing to say isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box of Jimmy's Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 3 hours ago, TheStairwayRemainsTheSame said: That's a nice thing to say isn't it Be it true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IpMan Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 On 3/22/2017 at 7:18 PM, Mithril46 said: Robert also puts a stick in Jimmy's eye when he uses guitarists who Jimmy could outplay with one hand behind his back. Hmm, I think Doug Boyle was a damn fine player who could easily hold his own with Jimmy, Beck, or any of the greats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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