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confounded_bridge

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  1. confounded_bridge

    Robert Plant Oakland 07/24/77

    So, you trash 77 because Page, Jones and Plant said "we were show boating most shows." This is true for some shows (less than half) but definitely not "most shows." To my ears, many 77 shows are brilliant, and way better than 75. Definitely NOT "a shame." Actually, only 8 shows out of 40 are bad. And i have to remind you that Page's memory is not what you think. He once said: "I don't remember most of the 77 tour."
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    Robert Plant Oakland 07/24/77

    The 1980 and many 1973 soundboard recordings were stolen from Jimmy's house. They are circulating since the eighties and nineties. The 1975 and 1977 soundboards are a different story. They probably come from a former showco employee and they started circulating since the 2000's when the bootleg company empress valley started their "soundboard revolution" campaign. They release one recording each year. All the soundboard recordings circulate and you can find them for free on youtube or on websites like "black beauty" or "long live led zeppelin." We can only suppose how many shows were recorded. For 1977, many fans in the zeppelin community (me included) believe that all the second and third leg of the tour was recorded. From LA 1977, the only thing that circulates is a soundboard fragment of Jimmy's noise solo (June 23) I personally believe that the Pontiac Silverdome concert was recorded for historic purpose. In my opinion, all the remaining soundboards will surface during the next years. It is a matter of time. Remember the rumors about the 9/28/1971 and 9/29/1971 shows in Japan. Many people were saying that the tapes do not exist. But they recently starded circulating, one song after the other. Soon, we gonna get the whole thing.
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    Robert Plant Oakland 07/24/77

    The sound quality has nothing to do with the level of the performance. The Pontiac 77 show is brilliant (the audience recording doesn't lie) A soundboard of this show is in my top 10 list.
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    Robert Plant Oakland 07/24/77

    I have noticed that in many of your posts, you badly criticize 1977. Have you ever heard Cleveland 4/28, LA, Birmingham, Pontiac and NY? These are great concerts, most of them better than 1975
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    Comments from Non Fans

    They don't have brains
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    1977 SHOWS RANKED INTO 3 CATEGORIES

    Thank you! It was very difficult for me to rank Fort Worth. It is very enjoyable and energetic, but at some parts Houston show is better. For example, Houston SIBLY, Achilles and Stairway are way better. The next night at Fort Worth, Jimmy used a lot of distortion for Achilles and his guitar is kinda out of tune, destroying the intro. This version is a little rough for me. On the other hand, 5/21 No Quarter is very boring (actually it is the only version i don't like.) Certainly, both shows are very enjoyable, each one on its own way.
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    1977 SHOWS RANKED INTO 3 CATEGORIES

    Exactly! This show has the second best version of kashmir, (the best version EVER is 6/22), a stellar NQ and great SIBLY and TYG. Bonzo is slower, compared to the first three concerts.
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    1977 SHOWS RANKED INTO 3 CATEGORIES

    Robert's voice is cracking a lot, so much it's cringeworthy. Jimmy's playing is okay, but nothing special. (Of course this is my personal opinion.)
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    1977 SHOWS RANKED INTO 3 CATEGORIES

    I also thought the same thing about April 9, but i ranked it based on the playing before Jimmy's collapse. And you're right about 5-28. The worst sounding soundboard and bad playing. Maybe i shouldn't put this show in that category, but TYG, kashmir and Achilles are so good to my ears, that made me forget the rest of the concert.
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    1977 SHOWS RANKED INTO 3 CATEGORIES

    Hi everyone. I've been reading this forum for a long time and i recently created an account. I enjoy all the twelve years of music that Led Zeppelin gave to us, and i am a huge fan of the 1977 tour. I see that the 77 tour gets slammed by some waterheads here and there, without a reason. I decided to rank all the 77 shows, to prove that most of them are good. THE ORDER IS RANDOM. I included only the shows that we have recordings for. BAD/WEIRD SHOWS Tempe Arizona, July 20 1977 Oklahoma city, April 3 1977 (the band is unrehearsed) Chicago, April 6 1977 (the band is unrehearsed) Chicago, April 7 1977 (the band still sounds a little bit rusty) Landover Maryland, May 26 1977 (IMTOD and Kashmir are trainwrecks) MEDIOCRE-GOOD SHOWS Houston TX, May 21 1977 (good performance) Fort worth TX, May 22 1977 (good performance) Landover, May 25 and 28 1977 (mediocre to good) Cleveland, April 27 1977 (good) Chicago, April 9 1977 (good) Cincinatti, April 19 and 20 1977 (good) Atlanta, April 23 1977 (good) Kentucky, April 25 1977 (good) New York, June 7 1977 (good) San Diego, June 19 1977 (brilliant playing from Jimmy, bad playing from Bonzo) Seattle, July 17 1977 (good show, but shitty SIBLY and Jimmy is lost during the OTHAFA solo) Oakland, July 23 1977 (good show, but Jimmy completely destroys the TYG solo) Oakland, July 24 1977 (good) VERY GOOD-LEGENDARY SHOWS Chicago, April 10 1977 (very good, the only bad moment is the first TYG solo, but Jimmy makes up with the second solo) Cleveland, April 28 1977 (excellent show, one of the best TYG, great NQ, kashmir and ALS) Pontiac, April 30 1977 (excellent, Jimmy plays greatly) Birmingham, May 18 1977 (excellent) Landover, May 30 1977 (excellent) Tampa, June 3 1977 (it started excellent and powerful) New York, June 8,10,11,13,14 1977 (excellent) Los Angeles, June 21,22,23,25,26,27 1977 (epic, legendary shows, with the 22nd being my favorite) I'd like to hear your opinions on my list.
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    What show or live song are you listening to now?

    I don't understand why you call yourself a zeppelin fan. They played many brilliant shows in '77. If you judge the tour by mediocre performances, that's your problem. The LA performances and some others were better than those of the '75 tour.
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    Are there any songs that you feel just don't work when played live?

    Generally, most of their songs were better live than studio. Whoever believes that Zeppelin were a studio band, is not a real fan.
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    Are there any songs that you feel just don't work when played live?

    WTF? You say that you like the 75 OTHAFA versions more than 77??? Plant's voice was not in good shape in 1975 and Jimmy did some flubs and terrible solos. Also, Plant sometimes missed the lyrics. The 1977 versions have brillinat, fast solos (except Seattle) and Plant got his voice back, compared to 75. Actually, the best ever OTHAFA solo was done on 6/22/77.
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    Nitpicking Page 1977

    The tapes were affected by the strong stage lights and the smoke from the audience. The problems are noticeable on the 75 tour. A note could be played for about 8 seconds. It was not the most reliable instrument, but nothing can replace its sound on kashmir, stairway and the rain song. Its "haunting" sound makes the rain song orchestration so remarkable. The 79 and 80 versions leave me cold.
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    Nitpicking Page 1977

    As a tape instrument, mellotron cannot get out of tune. Jonesy sometimes dropped the pitch on purpose to create this effect during the "all i see, turns to brown" part. The pitch knob controlls the mellotron's motor speed. For the 1977 tour, Jonesy used Jimmy's double black mellotron (model "mark V"). This mellotron is responsible for the epic sound of kashmir in 1977, and it was more reliable than the older one.
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