Rock journalists have been pinning rock artists against each other for decades now with these pop questions in interviews....if the person was to give a non response answer, it would never get published. The whole thing is stupid. It almost seems like some writers are playing favorites, which is ridiculous too... Its art. I mean, who cares. Ofcourse someone isnt gonna like someone or whatever. Its gossip, its negative when made into something its not meant to be...its just in the moment opinion, response in a five minute interview with a rock artist. Not all artists like each others art...so who cares, its ok, it doesnt matter. And really...i think there is mutual respect with them all, being artists...away from business aspects.

The gourds, gin and juice

The better halves

living loving maid, companion disc

I read this a few days ago, it was cool, thanks for posting this.

Maybe...and a good thought. He did dive into a high level of musicianship with dw2. Although i prefer what page could do with a seemingly simple riff like make or break and build a song like that...like w zep too. Idk if i were jimmy and decided to play just prog rock, i think i would be off the wagon after a few prog songs with yes. Page is much more about groove, ideas and adding complexities when needed, w song construction. Its much different than prog rock in that way, to me.

I could see john paul jones playing with yes, in some format, but not jimmy page, especially at that particular time. Page has too many styles and if anything i could see him in a country/bluegrass band before a prog band. Zep were best when just touching prog elements, to my ears, never diving too deep with prog, no quarter, carouselambra, tsrts...and adding things on top of that. On robert plant not joining that band, at that time...it was the right desision i would say. Why even try to compete with what zep was? Plus with the firm and paul rodgers, it was so much more grounded sounding, while being a damn good rock band.

All i know is that sugar mama riff is stuck in my head for 2 weeks now... Zep were babies of 50s rock and distant granbabies of the blues. The virtuoso soloists came mostly after that initial main wave of guitar music in the 70s i guess and that music was what it was. These days music is so diverse, that theres much much more to think about, compare and evaluate what is what. Most artists these days seem to stay in a specific genre. Its cool that the variety happened without corporate radio and mtv too, much more grass roots, although its more of an issue for artists to make money these days. Page ofcourse had his ups and downs back in the day. He bounced back with the firm though. That was a great band for him too, for my 2cents. If he went with that xyz band, he would have been held to that popular virtuoso level back then and that might not have been such a good category or whatever, for jimmy.

Samantha Fish

July Talk

Zep, over the hills, companion disc...,air guitar time!

I can only add my last favorite show, northern exposure. Seeing that petticot junction segment blew my mind. All the theme songs really are good...so catchy

Soundgarden, halfway there

Very true, i thought the same thing after seeing the sync of live footage. I always liked this song since i heard it on vinyl in the 80s. Sort of an amazing thing to think it is very jam oriented from what they used to do in whole lotta love. It was this type of song, where you sorta realized that they were real people and page wasnt as bad with drugs as some of the bootlegs showed...and that they were gonna go on, even with just very good songs.

Today on npr they had a segment on joan jett getting inducted into the rr hall and went further on women in music being limited in amount goin into the rr hall. So they talked about and had snippets of interviews with chrissie hynde, chaka khan, the drummer from velvet underground/ sorry forgot her name. They finished the segment with joan jetts, victim of circumstance...great song, which i had forgotten about. I actually had that on cassette back in the 80s, havent heard it in years.

I gotta say this song is sounding so good on the new remastered record. The extra, new clarity is amazing compared to the 80s and 91 discs. with this track being sort of a b side or whatever and plant's sea of love track from the 80s being sort of commercial...it shows how plants voice can make a song very imaginative. One of the things with the new version, pages guitar part on the tempo change section is brought up...and sounds good like that. Somehow bonzos drums sound softer here and throughout the album at times, from my memory of old record and cd, but i have not compared it to 91 yet. Yet...everything sounds balanced and there is clarity that with compact discs, i thought i would be hearing in 1991. I dont know any story of what the song is about.

Scarlet begonias, fire on the mountain...canada 90, so many roads, box set

From how i see it, hear it, i agree that page was noticeably sloppy in 77 and 80. His touring career playin zep songs though, goes from 68 to 2000, with great post zep years in 88, 98 and humbly sharing guitar spots w the black crowes guitarists in 99, 2k for a presentation of zep songs with an actual guitar army sound. One has to look at his whole career. My gosh, to me, this is a subject where it shows how quick it is to judge anything or anybody...not here, but in the broader music fan community. To me pages 88 tour, shows how he just simply was nervous for the atlantic 40th, as he said he was and is not a live tv type of artist. When we look back to the late 60s and 70s and see the advent of rock music being performed, presented on larger stages, stadium rock, tv, movie/woodstock. Artists with seemingly total confidence, like hendrix, or talent like jim morrison, were supposedly all playin music and creating music, under the influence of drugs, alcohol and inspiration. As far as 77 and 80 tours go for jimmy page, i just think the drugs were hurting him at that point, like a cycle of long term drug use. In the studio, page was always effective with zep, all the way up to the 78 sessions. Apparently he was drinking in 88 and 98, so that goes against the drinking arguments, about that effecting page's live music. Just 2cents. For anyone who shuts of the stereo, while listening to a 77 or 80 show because of page's sloppy playin, (i have) listen to some 88 or 98 shows.

Thats interesting about the excavators, i guess they dig the full footprint of the building out, to the point where they cannot remove the machine and hand dig the rest. I guess they are allowed to do this environmentally, if they remove the oil, battery and whatever else. Hopefully they take the back hoe and tires off, to be used on other machines. I too do not know who robbie williams is, as most artists on any of the music awards shows.

Yeah i am rediscovering the greatness of this album too, with the companion cd. The sound on over the hills is reminding me of, shining in the light. Originally it was always a bright sounding record. But w this sound, on alternate cd, it just prevents listener fatigue. Over the hills is amazing...almost as if it was limited by the vocal. Dancing days was always immediately likeable, since i first heard it on vinyl, but over the years i found the main guitar lick annoying at times. Here, that lick is toned way down and you can hear all of pages great guitar work. This song also illustrates the jones,bonham combo...how they could make a heavy groove in every song, allowing page to jump from the main riff to adding embellishments to the song. The song remains the same...what a dynamic song...pure energy, emotion and movement. Alot of the times im getting to no quarter and not in the mood to hear it, so bouncing back to over the hills. But when i do get to nq, as the song goes on im hearing jpj going from gloomy to groovey with his embellishments towards end of the song. Almost a glimpse of him thinking, he would really like to jam on this song, w page and bonham and turn it into something else. Its got the elements, vibe of the doors, riders on the storm....yet it seems jones tends to go back to a jolly keyboard thing, like the crunge or south bound suarez. Page tweeks something in the ocean and over the hills solo, dont know if its actually interesting effects from his guitar or what, but they are cool little things to hear.

I am really liking the sound on over the hills alternate version, its got a flatter finish to my ears, a step towards physical graffiti sound. The guitar on dancing days also sounds dulled a bit, it sounds good like that. I would have loved to have heard a low tech version of no quarter, without synths, but i guess there could be material to be future marketed on rhino box sets or whatever.

For anyone needing energy, Chia seeds! Its made a big difference in my life, after having sudden energy drop off several years ago.

I think i had a dyslexic moment in my post there, like many of my posts when trying to discuss music. I was trying to express that there seems to be such alot singer songwriters these days. I listen to college radio, when i even listen to radio and it seems the singer songwriters outnumber the bands these days, maybe im wrong. One of the possible reasons is, that there are alot more women singer songwriters out there also. As a kid i got bob seger, billy joel and bruce springsteen records from my uncle, stuff that he liked. It wasnt until i was buying my own cds, that i bought neil young, townes van zandt, bob dylan, joni mitchel, willie nelson..and thats after i exhausted my search for rock and metal bands. Listening to bob segers, against the wind, on vinyl is a good memory...sounded great

The new record is very good...more technical playing, less gargantuan riffs. Was surfing youtube last year and found a great show, rock am ring 2012

I bought the 2013 release, it's great ofcourse. Compact discs sounding good these days.