Prince should relisten to white summer, Achilles last stand live 77, the firm's radioactive, tear down the walls, midnight moonlight and domino, from net aid 99 new jersey. C'mon I'm not even a musician and I hear what I hear. Page is ALL about timing. It sounds like this could be a music media mishap. Several years ago, jack white said some negative stuff about zep, apparently...and then was praising them after that.

I thought the tv special on cbs, us tv, was very good. The artists performed the songs on their own merits and allowed the songs to stay beatles songs, without trying to blow them up, American idol style. With the ringo and paul sets, the fun and emotion factors arced way up and made for great television. I thought the 45 records on the stage background screen was a very cool graphic...that translated well for tv.

I have bought a couple of post 2k cheap trick cds and robin zander's voice got richer and more power with age. Ofcourse I can't listen to the radio staple, I want you to want me/budokan for a long time now. But his bigger rock voice is very good, that new song above is good. I could have seen him taking david coverdales place on jimmy page's 93 record and doing well. To me, it would be alot more listenable.

That was a great video above. I have wondered about zep's cover of, the song remains the same and thought a black and white, or sepia toned photo of a dilapidated venue would have worked. But I guess with it being a soundtrack and movie, the marketing of the other format was sure to work. I am enjoying the tons of media coverage on the beatles. One beatles writer, compared the beatles cultural impact to the internet and called them a new form of communication for their day.

Maybe it was 8 to 10 mins then. In the mood, was one of the extended songs, from what I remember. With, in the evening, I think there was some kind of intro they did...and was the first zep song in the set. I agree, 12/14mins sounds too much. It certainly was great seeing pages trademark guitar playin in 88, bootlegs and youtube cannot capture the vibe...and I take that into account when listening to zep bootlegs.

I saw an outrider show in 88 and the scaled back bow section and noise segment was good. it was sandwiched between, the chase and dazed and was a cool moment in the show. So I know you really have to hear it live to appreciate it, but still, the live 77 versions on tape sound too long. Always liked the 15 seconds of dixie though, with the effect. It's perplexing, because page had almost a punk rock skill with editing his own guitar solos on the zep records. Even as a young kid, there were never any boring moments for me when listening to any of the guitar solos, except for tea for one at times. Also, in regards to the outrider tour, pages white summer, in midnight moonlight, was very memorable, the whole crowd clapped along for a section of it. It was enjoyable to hear that song live, played well and realize what it must have been like at zeppelin shows. Page in 88, maybe the longest songs, with instrumental combinations, were like 15 min or so. The plant88 shows had versions of, in the evening and in the mood, which were like 12/14 mins, so they finally did scale things back and added extra songs.

I'm gonna go with the one I saw at a page and plant show in 98. If I had to pick a moment, where it was the closest thing to hearing zep, it would be this song in 98. Another one would be, in the evening in 95, with the orchestra of course it turned it into something different than a zep vibe...but still was a sort of triumphant moment for them, I would think.

I got a chance to listen to more material, the song, ocean, has 18 million views on youtube. This guy certainly is a great guitarist, he seems like the type of artist that's so talented as a musician, that he is trying to strike a balance in the music industry. Keller Williams seems like a similar type of super talented musician. He has got some good accessible stuff, Kimberly, revolution, fool for you and a few others.

He has sunrise at sea, a dvd and an acoustic ep, which he reminded me, he had burned for me. He told me to listen to the track, zebra and that refreshed my memory. I am getting a jam band vibe and still thinking rusted root, as a comparative band. Which is a good thing, I'm a fan of jam bands, but they do take time to appreciate and you have to go to shows to truly appreciate.

This is one of the jam bands from the 90s that i never got a chance to see. In the 2k's i realized that i was listening to them a lot, along with phish and widespread panic. So i picked up a couple of cd's and dvd's from their website. They are a great band and i think that any led zeppelin fan would like the record, riviera. In regards to the big 4 tour of thrash metal bands that just went around, awhile back. If there is ever a big 4 of jam bands from the 90s, i think they should be included along with phish and widespread panic and whoever else. Its interesting the regional areas of the bands too, how they sort of spread out from the midwest, southeast and northeast and continue to gain popularity at varying levels.

After the storm in the northeast here, was working at my brothers house for a few weeks and he is a fan of this band. He was playing john butler trio, jack johnson, kings of leon and the red hot chili peppers. I liked the band, they are obviously very good…but after buying a few rusted root cds in the 90s, i wasn't inclined to burn my bros cds of this band, not feeling the need for more acoustic jam band stuff at this time. With rusted root, john butler trio and or, jack johnson…i like the music very much, just not running out to buy their records. Yet its strange with the music industry though, because the singer of spearhead, michael franti followed the jack johnson theme and wrote some very popular acoustic songs, which i guess are selling a lot and getting a lot of radio attention.

govt mule is playing with robbie kreiger on new years eve, at the beacon nyc, all doors music !

Yesterday on the cbs morning news show, they had paul watson from the sea shepherds and pre interview, they were introducing him and played led zeps, the ocean.

Just to add, he played the garden on the 29th, day after the coliseum show, i was at both shows.

^ I hear the similar section of golden horse there, good call. By memory i think its the part where plants singing the, up here where the wild wind blows the soul is free. Page's playing there in golden horse and walking into clarksdale, the song, sounds like its related to celebration day off zep 3 to my ears. Also i like the way plant's lyric lines where long and drawn out, elvis costello does the same in his song. You get lost listening, but that might be the point, to have something you can't follow closely.

If i am not mistaken, jerry cantrell sings on all songs except one, on the new record. From what I've seen on palladia music channel, fairly recent live festivals and shows, the new singer is good on the layne staley songs. In regards to the new stuff, i had read a few reviews saying it was a sabbath sounding record. But from what I am hearing, its the alice in chains sound, with an eastern influence in places. They carved out an identifiable hypnotic sound, very good imo. With jerry cantrell vocals, i think they are recorded on two tracks, or on some sort of a harmonizer or something and that gets a little wearing to me, but still, its a very good record with some excellent moments. Also on the palladia channel, was able to catch some of the airing of that mad season dvd, ofcourse very very good. Its gotten promotion with top reviews from music press. Very interesting that they could come up with something with its own vibe, separate from any pearl jam or alice in chains influence.

I saw jeff beck, live at ronnie scotts, again on palladia music channel. Unbelievable. Watching it this time, the drummer was into jazz fusion territory at times, with over playing and stuff and to me, that got a bit monotonous. But by the time the singer came on to do a few songs, i was looking forward to more instrumentals. Its like when i saw john paul jones, you hit this point where your not missing the fact that there isn't a singer, because the music is so good.

Awhile back someone posted a current robert plant article, where he is talking about indo blues in his current band and with led zeppelin. We know kashmir has that influence and comes from white summer. But i wonder what else came from indo blues. I am guessing the riffs to four sticks, song remains the same and maybe in the evening, guitar licks from bring it on home, dancing days, nobody's fault and achilles. With the firm, intro to satisfaction guaranteed and midnight moonlight. I can imagine the 77 kashmirs sounding authentic with the mellotron and with the 80 versions, thankfully jpj has a round sound on the keyboards and not a strong, synth piercing sort of sound. The clear recordings of 95 and 07 show how great the song works, hope that we can compare more official releases someday. Also wanted to agree with the folks who mention the eddie version, with the plant/bonham combination working real well there.

I have been listening to the effect on the high hat lately. On the 75 sbds its interesting, somtimes its weaving within the riff, other times i get listener fatigue from it. I been tryin to catch up with aud recordings on youtube, all different balances and venue dynamics. With some of the stuff from 90s, 77 shows, the mellotron sounded like wheels , pulleys and belts might be rollin out across the stage, like it was fallin apart. The bass pedals too loud in kashmir, is only thing thatll keep me from listenin .

I saw a news segment on Dylan's iron work art, very cool stuff. I usually like this kind of art all rusty and raw, but when it's sandblasted, like Dylan's work, it is cool because you can see everything that's goin on better.

I had heard some of the Newport show on radio, back at beginning of summer. Didn't hear this one though, very good. My favorite version of, it makes no difference, is Rick Danko at Jerry Garcia tribute in Japan, late 90s, on YouTube. It's just Rick Danko and acoustic guitar.

I think warren haynes is a great guitar player too. Ive seen govt mule a few times and theyve done good covers of grateful dead and zeppelin. Ofcourse seen the allmanns a bunch of times at the beacon as well.

The last cool thing i saw on tv was the americas cup, a couple wknds ago. On the saturday race, they were doing 38 knots, the filming of it was great and from san francisco bay, with the golden gate in background, amazin. The technology in those boats is mindbending, it was such good tv that im missing seeing it.

Ive been meaning to chime in on this thread for awhile, amazing journey of the tape. I listen to this achilles here and there and its so cool how you got the bass drum isolated and the separation goin on, considering the tape was muffled. Would be good if the person who taped the show could hear it and tell us rest of story about the recording.

I heard about this 20th anniversary release of, in utero, on radio this week. I thought it was a powerful record back in 93 and it got me to a nirvana show on that tour. It was a great show, the power and emotion of the record was definately evident in a live setting. I told friends at the time, this is what it was like for fans to hear great bands in the 60s/70s. They were a very special band and talent. In regards to, in utero, you don't have to be a junkie to appreciate it...the lyrics are creative, avante gard/abstract at times and simple at other times. Disillusionment is part of punk rock, as it is the blues....and alot of books, movies and other art. With steve albinis recording here....and pj harveys,rid of me...and walking into clarkdale, the guy gets a powerful effect, with quiet and loud. His quiet space is as blank and null as possible. When guitars and drums clash against this blank space, the effect is very good, in my grain of salt op. For ex milk it, frances farmer, heart shaped box. Lyrically, its interesting that some might call it weakness,or others see it as honest or real. Whatever it is, its an artist observing the world....or their view of things. Cobain was more expressive than dee dee ramone, but creatively the same....or like a john lennon. I have to say though, after kurt cobain passed, i didnt listen to that record for about five yrs...was too depressing. I prefer the sound of this record, over the gloss off nevermind. The sonic vibe off in utero, might have even influenced, them crooked vultures record and live shows.