What fucking bars are you drinking in?

Spot on, a lot of The Beatles' early stuff was absolutely brilliant & light years ahead of the likes of Gerry & the Pacemakers.

I'll need to dig out the interview but Bonham had heard that Hughes had been speaking with Pat, he turned up at a party drunk and ready to kill Hughes, I think there was a bit of a fracas and they never spoke again after that. If memory serves me correctly, I think it was in Mick Bonham's book although I'll need to check, it might've been covered in the Trampled Underfoot book too.

John Bonham was good friends with Glenn Hughes, I believe up until an incident involving Pat in the late 70s when they fell out. If you Google 'Glenn Hughes John Bonham' there's a picture of them together in 1976, looks like they're up to no good in a toilet or something (sorry, I can't seem to post it on here). I also attended an Ian Paice drum clinic in Edinburgh in 1997 & someone in the crowd asked him about John Bonham, he said they were on good terms.

Listen to rock music from 1968 (The Who, The Stones, Hendrix etc.), then listen to any rock music from 1969 onwards (Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, James Gang etc.), the difference is clear for all to hear. The drums, the riffs, the sounds, the singing, the power, everything changed. Other bands were involved like Cream, Blue Cheer, Vanilla Fudge and Iron Butterfly but I don't think any of them had anywhere near the lasting impact Led Zeppelin had. I've written this on my phone so have not gone into great detail, which I'm sure someone more articulate than me will do.

My favourites at the moment:- Guitarists:- 1. John Mclaughlin 2. Jimi Hendrix 3. Jimmy Page 4. Allan Holdsworth 5. Joe Walsh (pre-Eagles) Drummers:- 1. John Bonham 2. Elvin Jones 3. Tony Williams 4. Bill Bruford 5. Bernard Purdie

On Moby Dick at the Carnegie Hall gig:- "When it came to his full-scale workout, Bonham made good on his promise to be in top form. He summoned a demonic drum solo and flew around the kit with a speed and brute strength that was astounding. I saw Bonham play many more solos over the years but never with quite the same sustained attack." Chris Welch.

Given the amount of attention this gig is getting on another thread, I thought it deserved one of its own, seemingly one of their great early gigs but so little evidence of it exists. Is this picture from this actual show, was anyone on the forum at the gig & does anyone have anything else to contribute?

Just as an aside, I absolutely love this one on the 'Vintage Swag' page of the website.

Thanks for the info, I've always wondered which one was recorded & written first. I read a quote from Steve Hackett (I think) & he'd said that Fly on a Windshield was intended to sound like pharaohs coming down the Nile on a giant boat or something to that effect, what he perhaps should've said was that it was meant to sound like Kashmir. Would've been more succinct.

There will be a few magazine articles, people will go on about a mythical reunion & Jimmy Page will tell everyone how good they were again.

Can anyone shed any light on what's happening here?

You should see the rows on the smooth jazz forum I go on. They make this place look like mums.net.

I didn't say there were rules, it just seems odd that you've registered on the forum & have used your first three posts to slate Robert Plant & his 'cheesy shit'. Personally I don't see the need to pick a band member, all four of them were great, they all had their faults too like any other human being.

Some Zeppelin fan, your first three posts on the forum have been to slate Robert Plant.

Rock'n'Bacon roll Bron Y Aur Steak Custard Pie In My Time of Frying Boogie with Tiramisu Nobody's Fault but Wine

Good Thyme Bad Thyme herbal tea Dazed & infused olive oil Lemon (song) chicken Whole Lotta Dove Since I've Been Loving Stew Black Eggnog Tea for One I could do these all day

Here it is... http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/led-zeppelins-jimmy-page-john-bonhams-death-was-a-massive-loss-to-everybody/ Said Page: "[John] and I were really good pals. We were really, really close in our musical collaboration, if you want… the camaraderie. And just the sheer fact that, you know… 'Bonzo's Montreux' [the drum solo by John Bonham, which is the seventh track on the band's final studio album, 'Coda'] says it all, really. It was just the two of us working on it over there in the studio."

Jimmy Page was with him in Montreux, I read an interview quite recently with him where he discussed the trip briefly, it might've been in MOJO magazine.

Does Robert Plant live in London? I'd always assumed he lived in the Midlands somewhere.

It's a biography written by Chris Welch.

Sorry to read that, thanks for taking the time to log in & let people know. From what I've read it sounds like your Dad was a really important part of the Led Zeppelin organisation throughout the 70s, something to tell the grandchildren about certainly.

I agree with that although what I meant was 'Middle Eastern-influenced' rock music, if there is such a thing. Having checked the timings, it appears that Genesis were at Headley Grange around the same time as Led Zeppelin in 1974 so it's quite possible that one song influenced the other, there are definite similarities.

Listen to Fly on a Windshield by Genesis, which was recorded before Kashmir, Led Zeppelin didn't invent this kind of rock.