PhxHorn Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Has the guy who erased the intro to Celebration Day ever been identified? I didn't see anything about it in a quick search here. I'd figure that all these years later, he ought to be able to come forward without fearing for his life anymore. Quote
kaiser Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Ron Nevison. He produced UFO in their early days, among other bands. Quote
PhxHorn Posted January 14, 2010 Author Posted January 14, 2010 Has he ever commented on the record about it? Did he really flee and never come back, or did he work for them again? Most sources I've read are pretty vague about it. There's even an online trivia site that claims Richard Cole did it, which I figured was wrong as a road manager wouldn't likely be pushing buttons on the console. Quote
kaiser Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Ooops. I think I'm wrong there. I was thinking of "The Rover". Ron Nevison erased an acoustic guitar track on that song that pissed Page off. Let me check though, he may have done both, but I'm probably wrong about "Celebration Day". Quote
taker328 Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 If you check the thread I made recently, I uploaded a documentary about Physical Graffiti, where Ron Nevison talks about the missing track, and how he didn't lose anything. Quote
kaiser Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Page still claims he did. Regardless Page is still pissed at him & that's the reason he gives whether it's true or not. I dont envy Ron Nevison either way . Quote
zepps_apprentice Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Page still claims he did. Regardless Page is still pissed at him & that's the reason he gives whether it's true or not. I dont envy Ron Nevison either way . how dare someone piss Jimmy. haha Quote
zepps_apprentice Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 didnt Bonzo chase the guy who erased the beginning drums from Celebration Day out of the studio? Quote
Ady Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 I think it all worked out for the best. The drone between "Friends" and "Celebration Day" sounds great. Quote
zepps_apprentice Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) I think it all worked out for the best. The drone between "Friends" and "Celebration Day" sounds great. yea it flows great im happy he made that mistake Edited January 14, 2010 by zepps_apprentice Quote
BonzoLikeDrumer Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Has the guy who erased the intro to Celebration Day ever been identified? I didn't see anything about it in a quick search here. I'd figure that all these years later, he ought to be able to come forward without fearing for his life anymore. I think I remember reading or hearing that it was a tape op (likely a newbie fumbling with the MTR's "arm track" switch(s)) that accidentally erased all of Celebration Day. I don't know if it was a common practice at that time to reuse erased tape, the tape plant I worked at (1980's and 1990's) had a machine with a large conveyor that used magnetic energy to erase whole reals in seconds. Quote
lzzoso Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Has the guy who erased the intro to Celebration Day ever been identified? I didn't see anything about it in a quick search here. I'd figure that all these years later, he ought to be able to come forward without fearing for his life anymore. Just curious about where you read about this from. "Hammer of the Gods", perhaps. I remember reading a couple of sentences about this in "Hammer of the Gods". Whether this really happened and is actually true or not I do not know. The reason I ask is because there seem to be alot of people on this website and forum who will "degrade" you for quoting and even reading and mentioning "Hammer of the Gods". I, however, am not one of those people. I will actually credit that book for getting me more into Led Zeppelin than anything before, obviously excluding the Led Zeppelin studio and bootleg material. And that was more than 25 years ago that I first bought it in hardback copy. I say "FUCK YOU" to the people on this forum who "trash" "Hammer of the Gods". Remember, it is only a book. Whether factually right or wrong, I am sure alot of people learned alot from this book. I know I did. Now, I am ready for any backlash, if some of you may disagree with what I just typed. "Bring It On Home" to me baby... Quote
beatbo Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Just curious about where you read about this from. "Hammer of the Gods", perhaps. I remember reading a couple of sentences about this in "Hammer of the Gods". Whether this really happened and is actually true or not I do not know. The reason I ask is because there seem to be alot of people on this website and forum who will "degrade" you for quoting and even reading and mentioning "Hammer of the Gods". I, however, am not one of those people. I will actually credit that book for getting me more into Led Zeppelin than anything before, obviously excluding the Led Zeppelin studio and bootleg material. And that was more than 25 years ago that I first bought it in hardback copy. I say "FUCK YOU" to the people on this forum who "trash" "Hammer of the Gods". Remember, it is only a book. Whether factually right or wrong, I am sure alot of people learned alot from this book. I know I did. Now, I am ready for any backlash, if some of you may disagree with what I just typed. "Bring It On Home" to me baby... it is better for any book to Be rather than banned or burned.... Quote
BonzoLikeDrumer Posted January 17, 2010 Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) Just curious about where you read about this from. "Hammer of the Gods", perhaps. I remember reading a couple of sentences about this in "Hammer of the Gods". Whether this really happened and is actually true or not I do not know. The reason I ask is because there seem to be alot of people on this website and forum who will "degrade" you for quoting and even reading and mentioning "Hammer of the Gods". I, however, am not one of those people. I will actually credit that book for getting me more into Led Zeppelin than anything before, obviously excluding the Led Zeppelin studio and bootleg material. And that was more than 25 years ago that I first bought it in hardback copy. I say "FUCK YOU" to the people on this forum who "trash" "Hammer of the Gods". Remember, it is only a book. Whether factually right or wrong, I am sure alot of people learned alot from this book. I know I did. Now, I am ready for any backlash, if some of you may disagree with what I just typed. "Bring It On Home" to me baby... I don't know as I've never read "Hammer of the Gods", how I heard about the tape op and Celebration Day was on a radio show back in the 1990's. It was a King Biscuit or Radio 1 show, I don't remember exactly. They where interviewing Jason Bonham and going over a bunch of old and unreleased stuff. Edited January 17, 2010 by BonzoLikeDrumer Quote
namregoob Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 (edited) Just curious about where you read about this from. "Hammer of the Gods", perhaps. I remember reading a couple of sentences about this in "Hammer of the Gods". Whether this really happened and is actually true or not I do not know. The reason I ask is because there seem to be alot of people on this website and forum who will "degrade" you for quoting and even reading and mentioning "Hammer of the Gods". I, however, am not one of those people. I will actually credit that book for getting me more into Led Zeppelin than anything before, obviously excluding the Led Zeppelin studio and bootleg material. And that was more than 25 years ago that I first bought it in hardback copy. I say "FUCK YOU" to the people on this forum who "trash" "Hammer of the Gods". Remember, it is only a book. Whether factually right or wrong, I am sure alot of people learned alot from this book. I know I did. Now, I am ready for any backlash, if some of you may disagree with what I just typed. "Bring It On Home" to me baby... I found it a decent read. Stairway To Heaven-Led Zepplin unsensored by Richard Cole is also worth a squint. Edited January 18, 2010 by namregoob Quote
SickTangerine Posted January 18, 2010 Posted January 18, 2010 I wonder what that original drum track sounded like... Quote
Gospel Zone Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 I think it all worked out for the best. The drone between "Friends" and "Celebration Day" sounds great. The drone sounds like a zeppelin. Quote
badgeholder Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 No "undo" button in the old analog days! We had an engineer erase a whole song of ours once. We're in there with headphones on ready to overdub vocals. It was an old house converted into a studio so there was no window to see the guy, just his voice in the phones. I'll never forget it, he plays part of a song "this one?" No, we say, the one after that....."This one?" No, it was before that one.....(long pause) "Hang on".......We look at each other in horror as it dawns on us. "Uh, sorry guys" !!!!Gone. Erased. An entire basic track, the tricky one, of course. Haha, oh, the memories! Quote
BonzoLikeDrumer Posted January 19, 2010 Posted January 19, 2010 No "undo" button in the old analog days! We had an engineer erase a whole song of ours once. We're in there with headphones on ready to overdub vocals. It was an old house converted into a studio so there was no window to see the guy, just his voice in the phones. I'll never forget it, he plays part of a song "this one?" No, we say, the one after that....."This one?" No, it was before that one.....(long pause) "Hang on".......We look at each other in horror as it dawns on us. "Uh, sorry guys" !!!!Gone. Erased. An entire basic track, the tricky one, of course. Haha, oh, the memories! Yeah, I've done that a time or two back when I was still using my old Fostex 4-track, I never erased or over recorded a whole song but first part's, yes. I don't know how I didn't do it more than I did as I was recording most all my work by myself and was doing lot's and lot's of over-dub's! Quote
PhxHorn Posted January 20, 2010 Author Posted January 20, 2010 I was recording an original album with a band back in '95. The rhythm tracks and vocals had been done, and we were tracking the horn section at that point. The bone player stumbled into the control room and stepped down hard on the conduit that connects the console to the tape machine, stretching the wires. Five tracks went into record mode right in the middle of the tune. Fortunately, there was nothing on those tracks at that particular point. Quote
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