RIOT HOUSE OR DISTURBANCE HOUSE?

[Strider]

Hey all! Been a long time since I've posted(almost a year) and I see the board has changed again.

Anyhow, the swap meet is tomorrow and I need some help regarding a couple of bootlegs and since I don't have

time to research them myself online, I was hoping I could get some advice from those of you in the know, and

tomorrow morning before I leave for the swapmeet I'll check here to see if any sort of consensus has formed.

Okay, so here's my question: Of the two boots by Wendy of the 2 shows at the Alexandra Palace in London

on December 22 and 23, 1972, which one is the best: "Riot House 12-22-72" or "Disturbance House 12-23-72"?

I can only afford one, otherwise I would get both...so if you can tell me which is best, performance- and sound

quality-wise, I'd be grateful for everyone's input. Thanks!

Edited August 1, 2010 by Strider

[Strider]

Really? I'm not gonna get any help from y'all? Thanks a bunch.

[NickZepp]

They are both about the same.

[Toni_R_4_Robert]

Hi Strider

My advice would be to save your money! Buy neither, and download both. They're easy to find, complete with artwork.

Toni

[Strider]

Thanks for the advice...I'll get around to downloading as soon as I figure out this new-fangled telegraph thing, hehe.

Seriously, downloading is not for me. For one thing, my computer crashed. For another, it has been my experience,

and I've heard tons of horror stories from my friends and family that downloading leads to viruses infiltrating your

computer.

Besides, it's only $5 a disc. When you consider what I would have to spend on blank cds and printing out artwork,

and everything else that comes with downloading, I just prefer doing it the old-fashioned person-to-person way of

going to a record swap and meeting other like-minded music fans. It's more friendly and social than just downloading

from some anonymous website.

So my most recent haul this past weekend included "Riot House"(12-22-72 London), Empress Valley's "Blues Brothers"(1-22-75 Chicago),

two Black Crowes shows from their amazing 2005 tour, the Rolling Stones(Essen and Koln, Germany 1970), and two

Pink Floyd shows from 1970(Berlin and Fillmore West).

[Oracle]

^ Surely you paid more than $5 a disc for those bootlegs. Ehh ?

I do both. I go out and fraternize at cd shops and I download from trusted sites. For Zep that place of 'royalty' when the Direct Server was up and running. FAST flac downloads ! For other's I've mostly traded in snail mail after conversations online, but many, I've also downloaded after talking to the server master. Never just from somewhere I didn't know of.

Oh and....LOVE your siggy !

Was that Otis the one that Bluto on Animal House hollers to...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RrAadYcbrE

[Occam's Razor]

Thanks for the advice...I'll get around to downloading as soon as I figure out this new-fangled telegraph thing, hehe.

Seriously, downloading is not for me. For one thing, my computer crashed. For another, it has been my experience,

and I've heard tons of horror stories from my friends and family that downloading leads to viruses infiltrating your

computer.

Besides, it's only $5 a disc. When you consider what I would have to spend on blank cds and printing out artwork,

and everything else that comes with downloading, I just prefer doing it the old-fashioned person-to-person way of

going to a record swap and meeting other like-minded music fans. It's more friendly and social than just downloading

from some anonymous website.

So my most recent haul this past weekend included "Riot House"(12-22-72 London), Empress Valley's "Blues Brothers"(1-22-75 Chicago),

two Black Crowes shows from their amazing 2005 tour, the Rolling Stones(Essen and Koln, Germany 1970), and two

Pink Floyd shows from 1970(Berlin and Fillmore West).

I hear what you say about the social aspect. But even at $5 a CD, someone's making a lot of money out of you, for something they probably downloaded themselves for free!

For what it's worth, and without wishing to preach, here's my advice:

• invest in a new pc, a fast broadband connection for a few months, and a 1TB external hard drive. Total cost: about $500.
• spend a month or two collecting EVERY known LZ show, audio & video. It can be done, and it's very easy, if a little time-consuming. And addictive.
• stick it all on the external hard drive. About 250GB for the entire LZ history, leaving 750GB for other bands.
• sample the shows as you download them. Burn the good ones, listen to the bad ones on your pc. Chances are they won't sound any better on your main system anyway!
• carry on going to the swap meets, and take with you loads of amazing stuff that you got for free.

You can get the entire LZ history by visiting just 2 or 3 trustworthy sites. I'm sure someone could pm these to you if you're interested.

As for viruses, I've been doing this for about 4 years now, and the only viruses I've ever caught have been from PORN!

[Strider]

Naw Oracle, it isn't Otis Day and the Knights...it's THIS Otis, Otis Taylor: Otis Taylor "Trance Blues"

And I probably shouldn't be revealing this, but the discs I get aren't downloaded copies, they are the original label silver discs with the art

work and packaging and crazy "english-as-a-second-language" liner notes; usually by some guy named Paul deLuxe.

In the past several months, I've bought the Godfatherecords upgrade of the Feb. 12, 1975 MSG concert, "That's Alright New York"; "L'Olympia" from 10/10/69;

"Drag Queen of New Orleans" 5/14/73; "Adelaide Revival" 2/19/72; and "American Return" 3/11/75.

From Empress Valley, I've acquired "Jimmy's Birthday Party" a 4-cd set of the 1/9/70 RAH show; "Praying Silently for Jimi" a 4-cd set of both the afternoon and

evening shows of 9/19/70 at MSG, NY; "Snow Jobs" 3/19/75; "St. Louis Blues" 2/16/75; "St. Valentine's Day Massacre" 2/14/75; "Rampaging Cajun" 2/28/75;

"Blues Brothers" 1/22/75.

I've also picked up "Riot House" 12/22/72 from Wendy and "Pollution Alert" 9/14/71 from Beezlebub, which has one of the more interesting logos I've seen.

I also have about 30 or 40 Zeppelin concerts stored on archive discs in flac format that i got in a trade, but I just have never gotten around to converting them to cds.

[greenman]

If your getting those releases for $5 a disk your've got a real bargin, some of those EV releases sell for $30-40 a disk elsewhere.

[andyk]

Hi,

Must admit I haven't bought bootlegs for a while so lost track of the 'format' they come in, are the EV ones (and other well known labels) CDRs or proper 'silver discs' which are more expensive to produce.

Had some bad experiences with CDRs, which were often not particularly cheap and came with digital noise which made some impossible to listen to and often impossible to transfer to computer, so downloads are a godsend at least if you picked up something poor quality it hadn't cost you a small fortune, at one time CDRs were about the only way to buy bootlegs and that put me off for a while certainly wouldn't pay more than a couple of pounds for CDRs if that.

I don't recall ever picking up a virus on any of the things I have downloaded.

Andy

Edited August 12, 2010 by andyk