timothy5151 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) oops... wrong thread.... moved to correct thread! Edited September 4, 2020 by timothy5151 wrong thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Rolling Stone to Ozzy in recent interview: Tony has said that he'd still like for Black Sabbath to play live again sometime. Ozzy: Not for me. It's done. The only thing I do regret is not doing the last farewell show in Birmingham with [drummer] Bill Ward. I felt really bad about that. It would have been so nice. I don't know what the circumstances behind it were, but it would have been nice. I've talked to him a few times, but I don't have any of the slightest interest in [doing another gig]. Maybe Tony's getting bored now. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/ozzy-osbourne-biography-documentary-interview-1051072/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RainbowElf Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 4 hours ago, luvlz2 said: I bought this, the Purple and Yellow vinyl and the deluxe CD & DVD with artbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigante Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Yeah, bollocks Ozzy didn't 'know the circumstances' behind Bill Ward not doing the last gig. Your wife wanted to pay him peanuts. Now you know the circumstances, Oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowElf Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Brigante said: Yeah, bollocks Ozzy didn't 'know the circumstances' behind Bill Ward not doing the last gig. Your wife wanted to pay him peanuts. Now you know the circumstances, Oz. Yeah he knows why, how he can go and say that is beyond me, when they publicly were have a war of words going at the time of 13. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowElf Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Yesterday was the 50th anniversary of Paranoid album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Geezer Butler To Reissue Three Solo Albums In October: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/black-sabbath-bassist-geezer-butler-to-reissue-three-solo-albums-in-october/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Tony Martin Reunites With His Pre-Black Sabbath Band The Alliance https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/tony-martin-reunites-with-his-pre-black-sabbath-band-the-alliance/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Bill Ward pays tribute to victims of Las Vegas massacre on third anniversary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowElf Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Bill is back to being friends with Ozzy which is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigante Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Thing is, if someone shits on you and you go back for more, they're going to respect you even less than they already did. But I'm a grudge-bearing, bitter old bastard, so good luck to em! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 https://wallofsoundau.com/2020/10/06/geezer-butler-heavy-metal-turns-fifty-the-birth-of-black-sabbath/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) On 10/7/2020 at 5:11 AM, luvlz2 said: https://wallofsoundau.com/2020/10/06/geezer-butler-heavy-metal-turns-fifty-the-birth-of-black-sabbath/ This really "grinds my gears", back in the day, say when Paranoid was gracing Top of the Pops NOBODY called Black Sabbath a heavy metal band, they were/ heavy/hard rock. One could walk into any record shop in the early seventies and you would not find a heavy metal section, they did not exist. Heavy Metal turns fifty, bollox I say. Edited October 8, 2020 by JTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowElf Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, JTM said: This really "grinds my gears", back in the day, say when Paranoid was gracing Top of the Pops NOBODY called Black Sabbath a heavy metal band, they were/ heavy/hard rock. One could walk into any record shop in the early seventies and you would not find a heavy metal section, they did not exist. Heavy Metal turns fifty, bollox I say. Agreed, I always think of Sabbath as a Hard Rock band, the Ozzy era I’m talking about. Edited October 8, 2020 by RainbowElf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, RainbowElf said: Agreed, I wAys think of Sabbath as a Hard Rock band, the Ozzy era I’m talking about. I blame Kerrang magazine, they started the Black Sabbath heavy metal thing. I'm talking "Ozzy era" too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainbowElf Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 5 hours ago, JTM said: I blame Kerrang magazine, they started the Black Sabbath heavy metal thing. I'm talking "Ozzy era" too. They may have influenced Heavy Metal, but they are hard rock, Metal would be the post Ozzy era, Dio era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnOsbourne Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I would regard Sabbath as the first metal band, although obviously Zeppelin and Purple's influence on the genre can't be understated. Like a lot of the heavy bands of the era, Sabbath's repertoire was a lot more diverse than your typical metal band today, but I think musically (and thematically) they took things to the next level (relative to other heavy bands from the late 60's, e.g. Cream, etc.), to what you commonly see in metal music today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnOsbourne Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 There was a really cool episode earlier this year on Sirius Liquid Metal's Bloody Roots show on the heavy music around the time of Sabbath's debut album: https://blog.bazillionpoints.com/2020/02/01/fifty-years-of-metal-i-the-roots-of-pre-sabbath-heaviness/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, JohnOsbourne said: I would regard Sabbath as the first metal band, although obviously Zeppelin and Purple's influence on the genre can't be understated. Like a lot of the heavy bands of the era, Sabbath's repertoire was a lot more diverse than your typical metal band today, but I think musically (and thematically) they took things to the next level (relative to other heavy bands from the late 60's, e.g. Cream, etc.), to what you commonly see in metal music today. I couldn't possibly agree, like I said before in the early days of Black Sabbath there was no such thing as a heavy metal section in record shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnOsbourne Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, JTM said: I couldn't possibly agree, like I said before in the early days of Black Sabbath there was no such thing as a heavy metal section in record shops. Which is sort of the point of saying they were the *first* metal band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brigante Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Sabbath as the first metal band makes sense from this perspective, but it's a retrospective designation. Hard rock's bands like Thin Lizzy or UFO, isn't it? Sabbath are palbably different to those kinds of bands, so I've never thought of them as hard rock. I agreed with Geezer when he said he'd always thought of Sabbath as 'heavy rock' - that'll do for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 16 hours ago, JohnOsbourne said: Which is sort of the point of saying they were the *first* metal band. Like fuck it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/black-sabbath-tony-iommi-eddie-van-halen-interview-1073082/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvlz2 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Tony Iommi teams up with Pink Floyd's Nick Mason for cancer charity album. https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/black-sabbaths-tony-iommi-teams-up-with-pink-floyds-nick-mason-for-cancer-charity-album/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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