in_the_evening Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 What do you think it means when it says Peter Grant was the "Executive Producer" of all the Zep albums? I can't really imagine he had any "album producing technical skills" like JP.... Or was it to acknowledge something in the business side of album making? To me it seems like it was just a "tip of the hat" to Mr. Grant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 It is not just a ceremonial title. Believe me, in show business, there are clear reasons for every title and credit bestowed. The Executive Producer (Peter Grant) is distinct and separate from the Music Producer (Jimmy Page). The Executive Producer handles the budget and accounting, deals with copyright and legal issues, hires and pays the sound engineers and technicians that work on the record, and arranges for the studio time. The Producer concerns himself with the actual recording and making of the music for the album. Reat assured, Peter Grant earned that Executive Producer credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantpothead Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 How come he wasn't credited with it on the label of LZ II, III, or Presence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 How come he wasn't credited with it on the label of LZ II, III, or Presence? I have a theory but it will require more research before I put it in black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantpothead Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I have a theory but it will require more research before I put it in black and white. I am intrigued that he is mentioned on some, and not mentioned on the others. Look forward to your reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles J. White Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Because Jimmy did everything on those albums from a production and studio point of view including finding who he wanted at the controls perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireOpal Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 It always surprised/intrigued me that Jimmy would allow that credit to appear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
in_the_evening Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not to derail the discussion, but is it common for other bands to have an "Executive Producer" listed on their albums? Obviously you always hear about Producers, and some have become reasonably well known (Phil Spector, Quincy Jones, George Martin, etc), but to my knowledge, the term "Executive Producer" doesn't seem to be used much on musical recordings. Which just got me to wondering why Grant had his listed (and I thought it was on ALL the LZ albums, but as someone pointed out, it is not). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeC Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 It's a reasonable question. The term "Executive Producer" really comes from movie production, where it has a specific meaning, but there is no position in the business of record producing or artist management known as "Executive Producer." I think Page was just awarding the credit to acknowledge Grant's business oversight; it would be like Brian Epstein being listed as "Executive Producer" of Beatles albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzoso Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I think that Peter Grant was given the title of "Executive Producer" on all of Led Zeppelin albums is because of the Trust and Admiration that They both held for each other. Jimmy Page, the Musician and Peter Grant, the Man behind the Scenes. I also think that, at the time, (in the 1970's) that Jimmy Page was very familiar with song-writing Royalties (and the Like), and that by naming Peter Grant as "Executive Producer" that might/would rake in a bit more Money to Peter Grant. Regardless of what I think, I have believed that Mr. Peter Grant deserves 20/100 (%) of Led Zeppelin. Since Peter's death in 1995, I would like to believe that His 20% goes to His Children, Warren and Helen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyIsDio Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) He was a well respected and feared man. I don't think anyone would dare cross him. Edited February 12, 2014 by OzzyIsDio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantpothead Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Strider, did you find out any more information on why Peter Grant wasn't credited on all LZ albums? that would make an interesting read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Strider, did you find out any more information on why Peter Grant wasn't credited on all LZ albums? that would make an interesting read. Sorry, been busy with work and getting a Philip Seymour Hoffman tribute together...and now with Shirley Temple passing away, that's another on the docket. Getting a Groupie Night together too. Plus, the Olympics and screenings for the Oscars are taking any free time left over. But, in brief, I was thinking that since Led Zep II was recorded while the band was on tour and the band would pop into whatever studio was at hand in whatever town they were in, Peter wasn't really needed for that album. Led Zep III was the Snowdonia cottage in Wales, which Jimmy and Robert found on their own, so again no Peter credit. By Presence, I think Peter was going thru his marital and drug problems so he was probably not around or particularly useful during those sessions either. But that's purely idle conjecture on my part, and without doing any research, I could be way off on various timelines, etc. That's where Steve A Jones comes in handy...he's got all that info down in black-and-white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantpothead Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Sorry, been busy with work and getting a Philip Seymour Hoffman tribute together...and now with Shirley Temple passing away, that's another on the docket. Getting a Groupie Night together too. Plus, the Olympics and screenings for the Oscars are taking any free time left over. But, in brief, I was thinking that since Led Zep II was recorded while the band was on tour and the band would pop into whatever studio was at hand in whatever town they were in, Peter wasn't really needed for that album. Led Zep III was the Snowdonia cottage in Wales, which Jimmy and Robert found on their own, so again no Peter credit. By Presence, I think Peter was going thru his marital and drug problems so he was probably not around or particularly useful during those sessions either. But that's purely idle conjecture on my part, and without doing any research, I could be way off on various timelines, etc. That's where Steve A Jones comes in handy...he's got all that info down in black-and-white. Cheers, Thanks Strider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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