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US Ebola victims being flown home for treatment. CDC says not to worry, little risk to Americans from the disease.

That is correct, as long as they follow procedure we are good to go. Ebola is not transmitted via airborne vectors, only through direct contact such as blood, saliva, or fecal.

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What a coincidence...I recently received a petition in my e-mail from some watchdog group about the ebola crisis in SIerra Leone, Liberia, and other countries.

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US Ebola victims being flown home for treatment. CDC says not to worry, little risk to Americans from the disease.

I actually trust the CDC. One of the doctors I work for told me yesterday the male patient was in grave condition then. Makes me wonder if its his body they are flying home....

Of course, it is always possible they are flying them home so the families can say goodbye.

(We have a much higher risk of widespread infection in this country from the holes in our southern border. BRING BACK ELLIS ISLAND)

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One more thing that I forgot to mention...

Ebola is spread only by DIRECT CONTACT WITH BODILY FLUIDS...

Influenza is spread by droplet...in other words, you inhale the air someone sneezes/coughs into and bingo...the flu is way more contagious but we have been able to vaccinate people from getting as sick as they used to, and we have educated people about hand washing, etc.

The thing with Ebola is it's extremely lethal and there is no vaccine or treatment.

I am not worried about an outbreak of Ebola here in the US from these 2 patients.

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One more thing that I forgot to mention...

Ebola is spread only by DIRECT CONTACT WITH BODILY FLUIDS...

Influenza is spread by droplet...in other words, you inhale the air someone sneezes/coughs into and bingo...the flu is way more contagious but we have been able to vaccinate people from getting as sick as they used to, and we have educated people about hand washing, etc.

The thing with Ebola is it's extremely lethal and there is no vaccine or treatment.

I am not worried about an outbreak of Ebola here in the US from these 2 patients.

Not that I was worried, but your posts reassured me all the same. Thanks for the 411.

  • 3 weeks later...
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Guys, honestly, don't worry.

My daughter has a chance to go to SA next summer, and I have absolutely no fear of her contracting Ebola...and believe me when I tell you, I am a worry wart!!

I hear today that the male patient is due to be discharged soon.. I am so glad he is better!! And I hope that the HEROES who treated him were able to learn from this experience and may be able to help others.

As an aside, my nephew has a high school classmate who is nurse at Emory. Wow.

And, what do we pay gang banging felonious football players again in this country?? Sorry, wrong thread.

  • 4 weeks later...
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One more thing that I forgot to mention...

Ebola is spread only by DIRECT CONTACT WITH BODILY FLUIDS...

Influenza is spread by droplet...in other words, you inhale the air someone sneezes/coughs into and bingo...the flu is way more contagious but we have been able to vaccinate people from getting as sick as they used to, and we have educated people about hand washing, etc.

I believe it has gone airborne to an extent. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20341423

Also, why have so many health care workers, including an expert(an American doctor), who take the utmost in universal precautions, contracting this disease? Are they just being too lax, when administering treatment? I don't think so.

Also:

A top German virologist has caused shockwaves by asserting that it’s too late to halt the spread of Ebola in Sierra Leone and Liberia and that five million people will die, noting that efforts should now be focused on stopping the transmission of the virus to other countries.

Jonas Schmidt-Chanasit of the Bernhard Nocht Institute for Tropical Medicine in Hamburg told Germany’s Deutsche Welle that hope is all but lost for the inhabitants of Sierra Leone and Liberia and that the virus will only “burn itself out” when it has infected the entire population and killed five million people.

“The right time to get this epidemic under control in these countries has been missed,” said Schmidt-Chanasit. “That time was May and June. “Now it is too late.”

The current Ebola outbreak in West Africa has killed over 2200 people, with Liberia and Sierra Leone accounting for over 1700 of those fatalities.

While calling for “massive help” from the international community to prevent Ebola appearing in other countries like Nigeria and Senegal, Schmidt-Chanasit warns that getting a grip on the epidemic in Liberia and Sierra Leone is a departure from reality.

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Dr Richard Sacra contracted Ebola because...wait for it...

He was working in Labor and Delivery and removed his protective gear because he got hot. Sorry, you'll never convince me of another scenario...

Now, this guy in Dallas is a story still developing, but you can't get Ebola like you get the flu...it's more like how Hepatitis C is contracted. Direct contact with body fluids, and you cannot contract Ebola unless the victim is symptomatic.

But, we'll wait and see what this guys story is...

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Wouldn't think of trying to convince anyone whose mind is made up. That would be impossible. ;)

Just posting what's been reported.

So what happened after Dr. Sacra removed his protective gear to catch his breath?

FOX News
The WHO said that as of Sept. 22, a total of 348 health care workers were known to have developed Ebola and 186 of them had died.

I wouldn't be so sure that 348 health care workers all had removed their protective gear as well.

What is interesting to note: Of the man treated in Atlanta, wherever, rather than placing his waste in biohazard bags, his waste was flushed down the toilet into the sewer water. Kind of risky.

The way this is spreading, it seems like a stronger threat than anything the Sochi Olympics had to offer. I sincerely wish your daughter the best of health and safety next summer.

Edit: For finding an answer to a question.

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Wouldn't think of trying to convince anyone whose mind is made up. That would be impossible. ;)

Just posting what's been reported.

So what happened after Dr. Sacra removed his protective gear to catch his breath?

FOX News

The WHO said that as of Sept. 22, a total of 348 health care workers were known to have developed Ebola and 186 of them had died.

I wouldn't be so sure that 348 health care workers all had removed their protective gear as well.

What is interesting to note: Of the man treated in Atlanta, wherever, rather than placing his waste in biohazard bags, his waste was flushed down the toilet into the sewer water. Kind of risky.

The way this is spreading, it seems like a stronger threat than anything the Sochi Olympics had to offer. I sincerely wish your daughter the best of health and safety next summer.

Edit: For finding an answer to a question.

I like you too much to get into a passing match over this..

I work in Worcester, in the medical field. I wasn't there when he contracted his illness of course, but I know what I've heard from reliable sources...

No, I don't think all the medical workers removed their gear either...maybe there are people working without it because there isn't any available.

My baby girl has decided not to go the SA next year. Not because of this, because she's graduating in May and has many things to do to prepare for college.

Anyway, we are all staying tuned to the CDC reports, you can be assured. My husband is a paramedic and is also aware of these cases...we are not hitting the panic button just yet.

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I like you too much to get into a passing match over this..

I work in Worcester, in the medical field. I wasn't there when he contracted his illness of course, but I know what I've heard from reliable sources...

No, I don't think all the medical workers removed their gear either...maybe there are people working without it because there isn't any available.

My baby girl has decided not to go the SA next year. Not because of this, because she's graduating in May and has many things to do to prepare for college.

Anyway, we are all staying tuned to the CDC reports, you can be assured. My husband is a paramedic and is also aware of these cases...we are not hitting the panic button just yet.

I like you too. :console: Just discussing. Excellent thread topic by CBR, who was right on target in selection of a thread topic. Interesting posts by everyone. And I enjoy posting on topics of interest to me as well. :) No offense meant to anyone.

I, as you, have worked in the medical field. Did so for 20 years. Have worked in conjunction with Wake Forest Baptist Hospital - The Infectious Diseases Health Clinic as well as many hospitals. I've worked on an ambulance, saved lives, worked as an orderly in rest homes, hospice, and the likes. I also attended countless seminars on Blood Born Pathogens and Universal Precautions. Am very glad for you and your husband. Noble profession are those in the Health Field.

No one needs to panic whether there are reasons for an extent of airborne transmissions or not. Cooler heads prevail, don'tcha know. It wouldn't get anyone anywhere anyway. ;) I take nothing for granted.

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NY Times - MICHAEL T. OSTERHOLM

There are two possible future chapters to this story that should keep us up at night.

The first possibility is that the Ebola virus spreads from West Africa to megacities in other regions of the developing world.

The second possibility is one that virologists are loath to discuss openly but are definitely considering in private: that an Ebola virus could mutate to become transmissible through the air.

The current Ebola virus’s hyper-evolution is unprecedented; there has been more human-to-human transmission in the past four months than most likely occurred in the last 500 to 1,000 years. Each new infection represents trillions of throws of the genetic dice.

If certain mutations occurred, it would mean that just breathing would put one at risk of contracting Ebola. Infections could spread quickly to every part of the globe, as the H1N1 influenza virus did in 2009, after its birth in Mexico.

Why are public officials afraid to discuss this? They don’t want to be accused of screaming “Fire!” in a crowded theater — as I’m sure some will accuse me of doing.

In 2012, a team of Canadian researchers proved that Ebola Zaire, the same virus that is causing the West Africa outbreak, could be transmitted by the respiratory route from pigs to monkeys, both of whose lungs are very similar to those of humans. Richard Preston’s 1994 best seller “The Hot Zone” chronicled a 1989 outbreak of a different strain, Ebola Reston virus, among monkeys at a quarantine station near Washington. The virus was transmitted through breathing, and the outbreak ended only when all the monkeys were euthanized. We must consider that such transmissions could happen between humans, if the virus mutates.

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Bless their hearts. The military killed 400 of those monkeys. They had to. It was transmitted from one room to another via the ventilation shaft. Reston, Virginia. Not too far from where I live. Was in 1989 I believe. Different strand, but the phrase highlighted in the above article should account for some reflection. The reason I asked about what happened after the man took of his suit, was because I honestly wondered how the man contracted it. Did someone throw blood at him? Honest question. Not meant to offend. Just curious. Curiosity might be my downfall someday. :P

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Good gosh! Only 10 years old. That's so sad. Thanks for the link, Anjin-san.


Although there is no known vaccine for the virus, and the scope which it will reach is also unknown, those that have become infected are following a common theme. They have all been vaccinated with the MMR vaccines, influenza vaccines, and polio vaccines. Of course, many children in the United States have been vaccinated, and most are required to be vaccinated in order to enter school. The illness is not occurring, yet, in children that have not been vaccinated.

“So far all of the reports we are seeing are coming in from children who have been partially or fully immunized,” said infectious disease specialist Dr. Heather Ashton. “Reports are managed through the National Enterovirus Surveillance System and the summaries thus far are all coming in from vaccinated pediatric populations in the U.S. and Canada.”

DAVE MIHALOVIC - Prevent Disease.com Sep 22

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And, there is no health and security crisis here. That's more hysteria.Again, there is no disease issue. You would find more diseases around your local mall. Better not let those creatures in here!!!

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Ebola comes from central Africa, the Congo and Uganda in particular and there has NEVER been an outbreak of Ebola anywhere outside of the African sub-continent.

Up to 100 possibly exposed, 4 in isolation. 12 to 18 people had direct contact with the patient. Let's hope you don't have to update your post IpMan.

Let every illegal in and get plenty of body bags. :wakeup:

Hey Bro. How's it goin? I don't know where you get your sources from so early.

Turns out the Ebola dude, Thomas Eric Duncan lied on his Visa application to get into the country. And with the laws so slack, he was easily allowed entry to visit even with the Red Flags on The Visa in addition to the lies to all the questions pertaining to having been in contact with others with Ebola. That sux! Liar Liar pants on fire. :P In Liberia, the head of the country's airport authority, Binyah Kesselly, said the government could prosecute Duncan for denying he had contact with someone who was eventually diagnosed with Ebola.

Health officials said on Thursday that 12 to 18 people had direct contact with the patient, who flew to Texas from Liberia via Brussels and Washington two weeks ago, and they in turn had contact with scores of others.

Center For Immigration Studies

Reuters

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