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Definitely have a listen, it's one of the best shows from the tour (which is really saying something given how well they were playing then). Unfortunately the soundboard only runs through Stairway.
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By tour/year, yes. In '73 they were about 10-11 minutes in the first leg, 12-13 in the second leg. In '75 they were much longer, usually around 20 minutes, but they could get to be 24 minutes or more towards the end of the tour on the West Coast. '77 versions were typically over 1/2 hour.
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Agreed this is one of, if not the, best versions. Have you heard the version from the next night (7-29-73)? That's also killer, similar to but different than the 28th (the soundtrack version). As far as soundboards from '73, Buffalo and Seattle are also worth checking out. For audience recordings from '73, try Milwaukee, Providence, and Pittsburg. Honestly, though, there are so many good versions from July of '73 it's hard to choose. Check them all out!
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Great article, definitely.
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Exactly, the "one dollar" is just a publicity stunt. This news today is encouraging, the first such in a while.
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Agreed. Unfortunately Page misjudged the possibility of this going against him.
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I understand that, of course. Perhaps I phrased things awkwardly, although it seemed clear enough; you think there is a very low probability the plaintiffs will win, I think that belief is unfounded. The recent court decisions certainly don't make this look like an annoyance anymore.
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Totally agree re. Cry Me a River, this would seem to be the definitive proof that the lawsuit has no merit. Yet, here it is, going to trial. Make no mistake, this latest development is very bad for the Zep camp. At this stage, Page et al. need to start making some serious offers (i.e. more serious than the ones they've doubtless already made) to settle, while they still have room to spin things. There is now a very good chance they lose this thing in court.
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I'd have to go with the 7-29-73 NYC and 3-24-73 Offenburg versions. There's something a little extra hard and heavy about these versions that stands out to me.
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Fair points, but you should check out the "untouched" versions of the MSG show; there's a soundboard fragment (Safecracker's Show) and reasonable audience fragment (Out of Song Remains). The original performance really is not far off from the official version, all of the brilliance is there.
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Very nice!
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How could I forget Vienna 3-16-73? Like I said, very tough question.
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Another tough one. Hard to beat NY 7-27-73. I'd also say (in no particular order): Detroit 7-12-73 Seattle 7-17-73 Earl's Court 5-24-75 Long Beach 3-11-75 Long Island 2-13-75 Hamburg 3-21-73 Offenburg 3-24-73 Manchester 12-8-72 Glasgow 12-4-72.
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Awesome clip, with the classic lineup! (And yes, the audience looks like a bunch of douches.)
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Love The Cult, great band.
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Agreed, Bolin was an amazing guitarist, sadly underappreciated.
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I'm a bit confused; is Blackmore being inducted with the band, and simply not performing with the remaining members? It'd obviously be ridiculous (not to mention scandalous) if we wasn't included. No Ritchie, no DP, it's that simple.
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All outstanding choices (as well the official BBC release). I'd also add the 9-29-71 version from Osaka.
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What show or live song are you listening to now?
JohnOsbourne replied to Misfit's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
St Louis is definitely a nice show (great NQ), but nowhere near as good as the previous three NY area shows (2-12 at MSG and 2-13/14 in Nassau), these are also part of the soundboard series, definitely gems. -
The violin bow solo in that song was ridiculous (but it should be Page, not Plant, who's irritated by it), but I always thought this album sounded more like Rainbow (AOR era, not Dio) than Zep. Which sort of makes sense, given Coverdale's past collaboration with Blackmore. Indeed, the riff in Still of the Night supposedly originated from an old Deep Purple session.
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+1. I don't understand Plant's hostility towards Coverdale, it's not as if he was some punk kid poser who just appeared during the execrable era of hair metal, Coverdale made some great music (with Blackmore of course) with Deep Purple during Zep's heyday. Sure he can be pompous, but whatever, he's well within acceptable limits for a rock star.
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That's exactly the charm of it, C/P are unapologetically bombastic. I love it!
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Rank the Zeppelin albums - favorite to least favorite.
JohnOsbourne replied to Jukkin's topic in Zep Polls
PG Houses III IV Presence II I The space between first and last there is very narrow. Hard to include Coda there, and I have no use for ITOD. -
Most Desired Concert To Hear, Which NO Recording Exists?
JohnOsbourne replied to nick2632's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
But to your specific question, I'm not aware that there's anything legendary about Houston '75, but the well-known Baton Rouge and recent Ft Worth show suggests the band got the 2nd leg off to a good start, so there should be reason to be interested in Houston as well. -
Most Desired Concert To Hear, Which NO Recording Exists?
JohnOsbourne replied to nick2632's topic in Led Zeppelin Live
You've maybe seen it mentioned in a recent discussion of what "Soundboard Revolution" shows remain. The pattern to me is very clear, whoever has these shows has a specific block ranging from the NYC shows in Feb (at the end of the 1st leg) to Vancouver (and possibly 2nd Seattle) shows in March. (Similarly for the available '77 shows.) Hence it is very likely Houston (1st show from the 2nd leg) is part of this stash and will be released, probably in 2 years (since they likely won't give out two unreleased shows in a row). Plus someone posted some pictures from this show recently, although I think those have been around for a while.
