The Stones facebook just said stand by for some news at 5pm GMT. Could it be the rumoured tour or ppv shows?

Any word on the rumoured tour for next year Steve?

I'd also like to hear more about Henrik's source that confirms the pro shot footage exists...

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I've seen any Bukka White in this thread:

Some may not like this but I think it's awesome (I'm biased though, love the stones to bits)

Winston Remaster is definitely the best I've heard.

Post of the thread Steve! Here is something a lot of you may not have heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW4bERql_Pc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvW1NgPI6qw

Your ignorance has nothing to do with the fact that a thread you made has 40,000 views. I'm not sure how you've linked the two together? Also, did you not see my post above about this being the other bands/music subforum? This part of the site is specifically intended for threads such as this. It's your problem if you don't want to widen your palette and just stick to Zeppelin. But don't come in here spouting your garbage about how Clapton hasn't been influential, it simply isn't up for debate.

This is the OTHER Bands/Music subforum. We don't have to talk about Led Zeppelin on this site all of the time.

Just check out most of his posts, hes living in his own fairy dreamland.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Ar43c5PA0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqvYq8LhREU&feature=related

I've thoroughly enjoyed reading these stories strider, they paint a vivid picture in my head of what it must have been like to be at a Zeppelin concert, being only 20 years of age myself (21 in a week!) I of course, never had the opportunity to see my favourite band in the flesh. I hope you're going to do a write up on the 21/6/77 show! Thanks a lot for the stories, and like others have said you should write a book.

I agree with you about Waiting For Columbus! Have you heard the deluxe edition?

^ The 1981 tour has some pretty good shows, but some terrible ones also, Lousiville comes to mind. The set lists were also filled with a lot of rubbish (imo of course) songs.

I want to visit the US one day for sure, the only problem is the lack of funds. I would love to visit New York, LA, Boston, San Francisco etc. That's actually a very hard question to answer. I wouldn't say that I agree with a lot of things that US governments have done, however I do enjoy a lot of American music, movies etc. What I don't tend to like about are things like the gun laws, in my opinion they are hugely archaic and need to be done away with. But thats a topic for a whole new thread...

I find that quite ironic considering you seem to have no problem with the amount of civilian deaths the US military has incurred in Iraq and Afghanistan, which I keep mentioning but you don't seem to acknowledge?

Australia is only a 2 hour or so flight from NZ, a bit longer depending on which part you're flying too. Yes, the two countries are historically linked (check out the history of the ANZAC if you're interested, it's a good example of the link between Australia and NZ).

Where did you get that I was from Australia? I'm pretty sure my location quite clearly says that I am from Auckland, NEW ZEALAND. Argh, really annoys me when people seem to think New Zealand is some how a part of Australia. Still, we have troops in the two conflicts I mentioned earlier. That isn't to say that I agree with those troops being there, but I'm not running the show so what can I do about it? You're right, it would change my way of thinking. I would be angry towards the people who did it, not the hundreds of thousands Iraqi and Afgani civilians who have died as a result of the conflict lead by the US and the UK. I don't really think that the US would have suffered casualties of 1 million if they had invaded mainland Japan. Japan was totally and utterly destroyed militarily by June of 1945, there was almost nothing left of the navy and the air force was completely destroyed. Take some time and read this link: http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html It's from an academic journal before you dismiss it. I myself too enjoy a good debate. Hope this has caused no bad blood between us.

This image is quite apt I think: As I said earlier, the killing of Osama is a symbolic victory and nothing else. if you really believe lzzoso that Iraq had Weapons of mass destruction (which by the way, your country has the most by far out of anyone and is the only country to have used atomic weapons in war) I don't really know what to say... Three thousand people died in the 9/11 attacks, and my sympathies go out to those victims who lost their lives and the families who have to deal with such a massive tragedy. But is the killing of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's and Afgani's really justified by this? Iraq had no link to the 9/11 bombings at all, yet terrorism was used as the excuse to invade.

I'm inclined to agree with cookieshoes. The evidence is in the songs themselves, just listen to the music/lyrics. There are numerous examples: Trampled Underfoot, When The Levee Breaks, Black Mountainside, Dazed and Confused, In My Time of Dying, Nobody's Fault But Mine... Albeit, in all the songs aforementioned that are old bues tracks the music is different but the lyrics remain the same as the original blues songs. To say that Page didn't know he was lifting lyrics and music from songs he had heard or seen others play is laughable.

A symbolic victory with intangible benefits.

Up on the top of Rangitoto in Auckland (just one of our many volcanoes...) in the concrete lookout that was installed during world war 2. Was a beautiful day!