Page&Harrison<3 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 On different pages I have found that Led Zepp was inspired by the Lord of the Rings. I'm reading them, I found some similarities and I would like to know your opinions and comparisons. Sorry for my english. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhead Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Some of the lyrics in "Ramble On", "The Battle of Evermore" and the title "Misty Mountain Hop" are some of the references to Tolkein that Robert Plant used in his writing. I think there are a couple more but I am sure someone else will let you know........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page&Harrison<3 Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 This is the typical, but anyway... in the first book (the fellowship of the ring) Bilbo Baggins says: All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither, Deep roots are not reached by the frost. From the ashes a fire shall be woken, A light from the shadows shall spring; Renewed shall be blade that was broken, The crownless again shall be king. well, part of this is in Stairway to heaven, at least the part of the glitter is gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcarter690 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Robert also named his dog "Strider" after Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie29 Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Over the Hills and Far Away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WChrisMullen Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I think the way Zeppelin used Tolkien was pretty good. They were able to make allusions without losing a wider audience. A lot of metal bands today will record whole concept albums about the Silmarillion which to be honest seems a bit cheesy. "Ramble On" is not a song just about Frodo or Bilbo, it's a "wandering" song, and it uses allusions to strengthen that theme instead of JUST being a song about hobbits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Dirigible Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Robert also named his dog "Strider" after Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Strider is mentioned in Bron-Y-Aur Stomp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page&Harrison<3 Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 I think the way Zeppelin used Tolkien was pretty good. They were able to make allusions without losing a wider audience. A lot of metal bands today will record whole concept albums about the Silmarillion which to be honest seems a bit cheesy. "Ramble On" is not a song just about Frodo or Bilbo, it's a "wandering" song, and it uses allusions to strengthen that theme instead of JUST being a song about hobbits. I agree with you. While the song makes allusion to Tolkien: T'was in the darkest depths of Mordor, I met a girl so fair. But Gollum, and the evil one crept up and slipped away with her, her, her .... yeah. Has another meaning, as you say, it's a "wandering" song. (if I understood correctly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDzep Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Plant is pretty embarassed by the Tolkien references nowadays. Did you notice how he sang "Gollum" under his breath when he during Ramble On at the 02 show (and the rehearsal, though less so)? I'm pretty sure if you didn't already know that was the lyric, you would not hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achi Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 As you know Robert Plant is ashamed of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhead Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 As you know Robert Plant is ashamed of that? ashamed...really....I have not read or heard that. If so that`s too bad. I think he was a pretty cool lyric writer including the Tolkien references... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Plant is pretty embarassed by the Tolkien references nowadays. Did you notice how he sang "Gollum" under his breath when he during Ramble On at the 02 show (and the rehearsal, though less so)? I'm pretty sure if you didn't already know that was the lyric, you would not hear it. There's no evidence of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP78 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 young robert plant looks like pippin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDzep Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 No evidence that he is embarassed by the Tolkien references? Fair enough - though I would argue there is strong circumstantial evidence: For example, Plant recently said (emphasis added): "I struggle with some of the lyrics from particular periods of time. The musicality and construction of (Stairway) is peerless. Maybe I didn't quite feel the same about the lyrics a little bit later on in life, further on down the road..." Such comments (and there are others) combined with what seems to me to be a clear effort to obscure the Tolkien references when he sings them, I supposed I should say I think he is embarassed by them... Note: this does not mean I think he should be embarassed by the references - after all, I've read LOTR at least 20 times, plus the complete History of Middle Earth (12 Volumes), Silmarillion, Books of Lost Tales, Unfinished Tales, Letters of JRR Tolkien, and assorted critiques and biographies (Sibley, etc). And he can downplay that stuff all he wants now, but I love the references. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 He said that about stairway because there have been a million and one different interpretations and he can't even remember the original himself, well apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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