SozoZoso Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 So it IS him, it was announced this morning that the skeleton remains found in a Leicester car park is that of the late King Richard III Here are some website snippits of the news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21063882 http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2013/feb/04/richard-iii-skeleton-last-plantagenet-king-live What I would like to know is what now?? I did read a blog concerning some of his "supporters" that he should be givin a Royal state funeral and perhaps ise final resting placewould be in York Minster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jb126 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) I have been following this story for a few days and will continue to do so. Can't imagine that a Royal funeral would be held? Thanks for posting this. Edited February 5, 2013 by jb126 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Leicester....I seem to remember a former (maybe current) member from there. No coincidence, I'm sure! It'll be interesting to see how this "proper" burial takes place. Sounds like he wasn't treated well at all during his demise. So it IS him, it was announced this morning that the skeleton remains found in a Leicester car park is that of the late King Richard III Here are some website snippits of the news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21063882 http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2013/feb/04/richard-iii-skeleton-last-plantagenet-king-live What I would like to know is what now?? I did read a blog concerning some of his "supporters" that he should be givin a Royal state funeral and perhaps ise final resting placewould be in York Minster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo71 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I live about 10 miles from Leicester where the King was found,they say they are going to give him a full state funeral and bury him in Leicester Cathedral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillumpuffer Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 A Major Major discovery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SozoZoso Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 I live about 10 miles from Leicester where the King was found,they say they are going to give him a full state funeral and bury him in Leicester Cathedral Yes, I heard that on the radio this morning but I also heard that York, particulary the Minster and Westminster want him as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedZeppfan77 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I have followed this story too. Pretty sad a King is buried there. Where the hell are the peasants and the family cats? Of course if he died in battle perhaps this was where he was in fact killed? I do not know. Amaziing what DNA can do isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepphile Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Wasn't he a major asshole? Fuck him, leave him where ya found his crooked ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Wasn't he a major asshole? Fuck him, leave him where ya found his crooked ass. He was responsible for introducing "The right to bail" to the British legal system, something to be applauded. As for him being a asshole, well anybody in a position of authority in those days was also an asshole. Assholes helped shape the world into what it is today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedZeppfan77 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Wasn't he a major asshole? Fuck him, leave him where ya found his crooked ass. Well I do not know how accurate and how much was written in the year 1485? The Dark Ages were named the Dark ages for a reason. This fell into the Renisannce period if my history is correct? I am not familiar with the accounts of this or most kings. One would have thought he would have been laid to rest in a better place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SozoZoso Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 Some more snippits http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21341535 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Christ ! Parking enforcement was pretty rough in those days ...geeez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Christ ! Parking enforcement was pretty rough in those days ...geeez http://www.luminarium.org/encyclopedia/richard3.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 Well I do not know how accurate and how much was written in the year 1485? The Dark Ages were named the Dark ages for a reason. This fell into the Renisannce period if my history is correct? I am not familiar with the accounts of this or most kings. One would have thought he would have been laid to rest in a better place? 'We're livin' in the dark ages ovuh deh!'----Sylvester Stallone comment on gun owners. I believe Bin Laden compared George Bush to Richard The Lion Hearted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagittarius Rising Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) Wasn't he a major asshole? Fuck him, leave him where ya found his crooked ass. Not really, that is he was no different than any other English monarch of the time and many, such as Henry VIII who bankrupted England, persecuted both catholics and protestants was much, much worse. Richard was a York, battling against the house of Lancaster for power, the Lancastrians and Henry Tudor defeated him in battle at the Battle of Bosworth after Richards second, Baron Stanley, defected due to a very large and secret payoff by the Lancastrians. Once he was defeated the house of Lancaster realized they could not hold the power for long without allies so a compromise was formed and Henry VII, a Tudor and popular with many on both sides, was crowned king. Unfortunately Shakespeare was quite a political kiss ass and that is the reason why Richard III went down in history as a hunchbacked prick. He was neither deformed nor a true prick. Edited February 6, 2013 by Sagittarius Rising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepphile Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I saw where a forensics specialist used the actual skull to mock up a clay face for him, showing what he looked like exactly. Was only 28 when he died? Damn, it must have been hard to be a pimp in the Dark Ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagefan55 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Not really, that is he was no different than any other English monarch of the time and many, such as Henry VIII who bankrupted England, persecuted both catholics and protestants was much, much worse. Richard was a York, battling against the house of Lancaster for power, the Lancastrians and Henry Tudor defeated him in battle at the Battle of Bosworth after Richards second, Baron Stanley, defected due to a very large and secret payoff by the Lancastrians. Once he was defeated the house of Lancaster realized they could not hold the power for long without allies so a compromise was formed and Henry VII, a Tudor and popular with many on both sides, was crowned king. Unfortunately Shakespeare was quite a political kiss ass and that is the reason why Richard III went down in history as a hunchbacked prick. He was neither deformed nor a true prick. I think it's too bad we still aren't certain who wrote Shakespeare's works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I think it's too bad we still aren't certain who wrote Shakespeare's works. Duh, Shakespeare! I've never put much credence in the Earl of Oxford rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SozoZoso Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Apparently this hideous modern thing is to be his tomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagefan55 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Duh, Shakespeare! I've never put much credence in the Earl of Oxford rumors. I'm not so certain that it's a "Duh" issue, at least not in the minds of a seemingly increasing (but still minority) number of scholars. A newer theory has it that the Earl of Oxford was part of a small committee of writers -- Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I read somewhere that the Dukes of Beaufort are descendants of the Plantagenet dynasty. Wouldn't this make the current duke the closest living relative to Richard III? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scylla Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 "Archaeologists have discovered the body of Richard III under a car park in Leicester. Ugly, disfigured and universally reviled... Leicester is just off junction 20 of the M1". Seems a shame to me he has to be buried at all - his bones should go on display in a museum. (Preferably in the North; London gets all the good stuff). It's been really interesting finding out how he really was a hunchback, when it was thought for ages that this was probably just Tudor propaganda and so on. I mean, his actual bones are of interest in a way that the bones of any other monarch wouldn't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SozoZoso Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 "Ugly, disfigured and universally reviled... Leicester is just off junction 20 of the M1". Couldn't describe it better myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 "Archaeologists have discovered the body of Richard III under a car park in Leicester. Ugly, disfigured and universally reviled... Leicester is just off junction 20 of the M1". Seems a shame to me he has to be buried at all - his bones should go on display in a museum. (Preferably in the North; London gets all the good stuff). It's been really interesting finding out how he really was a hunchback, when it was thought for ages that this was probably just Tudor propaganda and so on. I mean, his actual bones are of interest in a way that the bones of any other monarch wouldn't be. Putting his remains on permanent display would be uncivilized, imo. I would have thought the York Minster a better choice for his re-internment but Leicester Cathedral is also appropriate given that he died nearby. I wonder if they'll give him a memorial Mass? I also wonder if Michael Ibsen will be given an official role in the re-internment ceremony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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