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The officiating has become absurd.  If that hit on Andrew Luck Thursday night wasn't by definition 'roughing the passer', what the heck is ?  Not only did they land their bodies on him, they used a helmet to grind Luck's head into the ground.  Same with the officiating in the Detroit/Dallas game.  I saw at least 3 obvious holdings by the Dallas offensive lineman and not a call was made.  Penalties were like 10 - 2, and Dallas didn't even receive one until the 3rd quarter.  Lions deserved to lose, but the ref's subjectivity regarding calls is not only bizarre, but borders on being a fix.  Spotting the ball after crucial plays seems like an exercise in pin the tail on the donkey.  Two refs coming from each sideline veering all over the place to meet and make the spot.  How anyone could bet money on any professional game when these clowns are in charge is beyond me.

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43 minutes ago, redrum said:

Me too. Arizona choked on that field goal last week and pretty much gave the game to Seattle.

Watching GB Packer Crosby miss four field goals and an extra-point today it strikes me that the kicking is egregiously bad this year. Every team seems to be missing easy kicks. 

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5 hours ago, Strider said:

Watching GB Packer Crosby miss four field goals and an extra-point today it strikes me that the kicking is egregiously bad this year. Every team seems to be missing easy kicks. 

Until the Carolina kicker I believe broke the NFL record in beating the Giants?  He kicked it a mile.  Would have been good from 70.  Green Bay will likely release that guy.  Early lines out.  Some are crazy.  My Bills were plus 10 and an hour later it dropped to 8.5 at Houston next week.  Cleveland is a pick at home vs Chargers.  Fast respect after their win over Baltimore.  My biggest brain dead pick was changing to your stinking Raiders.  Thinking they might upset the Chargers.  After Carr lit up a good Cleveland D for 400 and change I expected more from them.  Bastards.  Send em to Vegas.  How bout them Bills?  And Rams

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11 hours ago, Strider said:

Watching GB Packer Crosby miss four field goals and an extra-point today it strikes me that the kicking is egregiously bad this year. Every team seems to be missing easy kicks. 

The Rams shanked an extra point against Seattle. WTF?? It seemed like they wanted to give the game away too.

Niners are doomed. No joy in Mudville this year. The Warriors don't count.

Casey at the Bat

by Ernest Lawrence Thayer ©

Published: The Examiner (06-03-1888)

The Outlook wasn't brilliant for the Mudville nine that day:
The score stood four to two, with but one inning more to play.
And then when Cooney died at first, and Barrows did the same,
A sickly silence fell upon the patrons of the game.

A straggling few got up to go in deep despair. The rest
Clung to that hope which springs eternal in the human breast;
They thought, if only Casey could get but a whack at that -
We'd put up even money, now, with Casey at the bat.

But Flynn preceded Casey, as did also Jimmy Blake,
And the former was a lulu and the latter was a cake;
So upon that stricken multitude grim melancholy sat,
For there seemed but little chance of Casey's getting to the bat.

But Flynn let drive a single, to the wonderment of all,
And Blake, the much despis-ed, tore the cover off the ball;
And when the dust had lifted, and the men saw what had occurred,
There was Jimmy safe at second and Flynn a-hugging third.

Then from 5,000 throats and more there rose a lusty yell;
It rumbled through the valley, it rattled in the dell;
It knocked upon the mountain and recoiled upon the flat,
For Casey, mighty Casey, was advancing to the bat.

There was ease in Casey's manner as he stepped into his place;
There was pride in Casey's bearing and a smile on Casey's face.
And when, responding to the cheers, he lightly doffed his hat,
No stranger in the crowd could doubt 'twas Casey at the bat.

Ten thousand eyes were on him as he rubbed his hands with dirt;
Five thousand tongues applauded when he wiped them on his shirt.
Then while the writhing pitcher ground the ball into his hip,
Defiance gleamed in Casey's eye, a sneer curled Casey's lip.

And now the leather-covered sphere came hurtling through the air,
And Casey stood a-watching it in haughty grandeur there.
Close by the sturdy batsman the ball unheeded sped-
"That ain't my style," said Casey. "Strike one," the umpire said.

From the benches, black with people, there went up a muffled roar,
Like the beating of the storm-waves on a stern and distant shore.
"Kill him! Kill the umpire!" shouted someone on the stand;
And its likely they'd a-killed him had not Casey raised his hand.

With a smile of Christian charity great Casey's visage shone;
He stilled the rising tumult; he bade the game go on;
He signaled to the pitcher, and once more the spheroid flew;
But Casey still ignored it, and the umpire said, "Strike two."

"Fraud!" cried the maddened thousands, and echo answered fraud;
But one scornful look from Casey and the audience was awed.
They saw his face grow stern and cold, they saw his muscles strain,
And they knew that Casey wouldn't let that ball go by again.

The sneer is gone from Casey's lip, his teeth are clenched in hate;
He pounds with cruel violence his bat upon the plate.
And now the pitcher holds the ball, and now he lets it go,
And now the air is shattered by the force of Casey's blow.

Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout;
But there is no joy in Mudville - mighty Casey has struck out.

"Phin"

Casey at the Bat by Ernest Lawrence Thayer ©

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19 hours ago, redrum said:

The Rams shanked an extra point against Seattle. WTF?? It seemed like they wanted to give the game away too.

Niners are doomed. No joy in Mudville this year. The Warriors don't count.

Casey at the Bat

by Ernest Lawrence Thayer ©

Published: The Examiner (06-03-1888)

The Outlook wasn't brilliant for the Mudville nine that day:
The score stood four to two, with but one inning more to play.
And then when Cooney died at first, and Barrows did the same,
A sickly silence fell upon the patrons of the game.

A straggling few got up to go in deep despair. The rest
Clung to that hope which springs eternal in the human breast;
They thought, if only Casey could get but a whack at that -
We'd put up even money, now, with Casey at the bat.

But Flynn preceded Casey, as did also Jimmy Blake,
And the former was a lulu and the latter was a cake;
So upon that stricken multitude grim melancholy sat,
For there seemed but little chance of Casey's getting to the bat.

But Flynn let drive a single, to the wonderment of all,
And Blake, the much despis-ed, tore the cover off the ball;
And when the dust had lifted, and the men saw what had occurred,
There was Jimmy safe at second and Flynn a-hugging third.

Then from 5,000 throats and more there rose a lusty yell;
It rumbled through the valley, it rattled in the dell;
It knocked upon the mountain and recoiled upon the flat,
For Casey, mighty Casey, was advancing to the bat.

There was ease in Casey's manner as he stepped into his place;
There was pride in Casey's bearing and a smile on Casey's face.
And when, responding to the cheers, he lightly doffed his hat,
No stranger in the crowd could doubt 'twas Casey at the bat.

Ten thousand eyes were on him as he rubbed his hands with dirt;
Five thousand tongues applauded when he wiped them on his shirt.
Then while the writhing pitcher ground the ball into his hip,
Defiance gleamed in Casey's eye, a sneer curled Casey's lip.

And now the leather-covered sphere came hurtling through the air,
And Casey stood a-watching it in haughty grandeur there.
Close by the sturdy batsman the ball unheeded sped-
"That ain't my style," said Casey. "Strike one," the umpire said.

From the benches, black with people, there went up a muffled roar,
Like the beating of the storm-waves on a stern and distant shore.
"Kill him! Kill the umpire!" shouted someone on the stand;
And its likely they'd a-killed him had not Casey raised his hand.

With a smile of Christian charity great Casey's visage shone;
He stilled the rising tumult; he bade the game go on;
He signaled to the pitcher, and once more the spheroid flew;
But Casey still ignored it, and the umpire said, "Strike two."

"Fraud!" cried the maddened thousands, and echo answered fraud;
But one scornful look from Casey and the audience was awed.
They saw his face grow stern and cold, they saw his muscles strain,
And they knew that Casey wouldn't let that ball go by again.

The sneer is gone from Casey's lip, his teeth are clenched in hate;
He pounds with cruel violence his bat upon the plate.
And now the pitcher holds the ball, and now he lets it go,
And now the air is shattered by the force of Casey's blow.

Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout;
But there is no joy in Mudville - mighty Casey has struck out.

"Phin"

Casey at the Bat by Ernest Lawrence Thayer ©

Well losing Garropolo was a killer.  Did the Warriors sign Durant yet?

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Before  you all go jumping on New England in the pickem pool, ask yourself how the very average New England defense will stop KC?  They wont.  Only way NE can win is in a shootout.  I just keep thinking at some point Brady is going to take a hit that he does not get up so fast from at 41. 

Well the Bills signed this Anderson as a "backup teacher" type for Allen.  Peterman should be released any day.  Their general like for the guy is the only reason it has not happened yet. But this is a business and he knows that.  I do not remember Anderson.  He played for Carolina and Cincy and one other team.  Might as well call the Bills Carolina North.  This game at Houston we can win if we are smart about it.  The Rams go into Denver to play just a lousy team IMO.  

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6 hours ago, LedZeppfan1977 said:

Before  you all go jumping on New England in the pickem pool, ask yourself how the very average New England defense will stop KC?  They wont.  Only way NE can win is in a shootout.  I just keep thinking at some point Brady is going to take a hit that he does not get up so fast from at 41. 

Well the Bills signed this Anderson as a "backup teacher" type for Allen.  Peterman should be released any day.  Their general like for the guy is the only reason it has not happened yet. But this is a business and he knows that.  I do not remember Anderson.  He played for Carolina and Cincy and one other team.  Might as well call the Bills Carolina North.  This game at Houston we can win if we are smart about it.  The Rams go into Denver to play just a lousy team IMO.  

For 10 years, Rick, you have been saying the New England reign was over. That Buffalo or Miami was poised to overtake the Patriots. That New England had no defense. They had no running game. Tom Brady was overrated. Tom Brady had no receivers. Tom Brady was getting old. Tom Brady was old. Belechick was losing his assistant coaches. Belechick cheated. Blah blah blah.

Yet New England kept going to and winning Super Bowls.

Sorry. I won't believe the King is dead until someone brings me the crownless head of Brady on a silver platter. I'm sticking with New England.

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15 hours ago, Strider said:

For 10 years, Rick, you have been saying the New England reign was over. That Buffalo or Miami was poised to overtake the Patriots. That New England had no defense. They had no running game. Tom Brady was overrated. Tom Brady had no receivers. Tom Brady was getting old. Tom Brady was old. Belechick was losing his assistant coaches. Belechick cheated. Blah blah blah.

Yet New England kept going to and winning Super Bowls.

Sorry. I won't believe the King is dead until someone brings me the crownless head of Brady on a silver platter. I'm sticking with New England.

Last time I checked Philadelphia won the Super Bowl and I NEVER said Miami would be the team to unseat them.  Buffalo will be.  It wont be this year because they have a young QB, but a good one and they have a defense.  It is over for New England winning Super Bowls. They have lost a few also.  The ones they won were all nail biters and they were damn lucky like vs Atlanta and Seattle.  Lucky.  They never blew teams out like the old 49ers or Steelers.  Never did it. Brady is in likely his last year.  When he figures out they cant go all the way him and Billy boy likely ride off into the sunset.  I have no doubt

Whoever comes out of the NFC, and I say its the Rams, will win.  The Rams winning the Super Bowl is fine with me.  They are my other favorite team

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On 10/11/2018 at 5:29 PM, Walter said:

Or like the Cowboys did to the Bills... :whistling:

The first time in Pasadena.  Yes,, but the score did not tell you that we turned the ball over 9 times.  We had them on the ropes in the second one and Thomas's fumble killed us.  We were aa better team than Washington and the Giants.  We know about the missed FG. But the Washington game really makes me mad because of how dirty the Redskins were and the refs sucked.  Did not call all of the times they hammered Andre Reed downfield.  He was illegally hit so many times downfield and it was not called.  Bullshit game.We rallied but ran out of time.  Even though we did not win, no thanks to Norwood, we are still the only team to go t o 4 in a row.  McDermott will get them to one soon

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35 minutes ago, LedZeppfan1977 said:

OK Walter.  That is all huh?   You have big concerns in Big D Walter

Not really. Just need to find a little more offense. Defense - good, o-line - good, running game - good. We should be 4-1, but we’re not. 

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