What Do You Guys Believe Exists?

[ledzeppIV]

Let's see:

Bigfoot (and it's cousins, like the Yeti): Yes.

Read the article on the following link:

http://stephendsullivan.blogspot.com/2008/...truth-yeti.html

Loch Ness Monster: No. Even though I used to. But the best picture of it is a fake and no one has found a thing after years and years of searching.

Aliens: Our universe is too vast for Earth to be the only inhabited planet, and I seriously doubt our planet has the only intelligent creatures, as well. I'm willing to bet there are civilizations out there way more intelligent than ours.

Have we been visited by aliens? The existing "proof" just isn't good enough to make me believe we have.

Are dolphins more intelligent than humans? I do believe they are.

Atlantis: yes

Ghosts: yes

Was 9/11 orchestrated by the government as an excuse for the Iraq War? Bush and Cheney may be evil, but not that evil. So no. 9/11 happened as we were told it happened.

Did Bush win in 2004 because of voter-fraud or whatever they say? No. The electoral college voted him in. All in favor of abolishing the electoral college say "aye."

Is Dec. 21, 2012 the end of the world? I do believe it is the end of something. What that something is, I don't know.

Does Judaism/Christianity/Islam the right path to Heaven? None of us are right. We are all going to die and find out that all 6 billion(+/-) have been wrong, from "Adam and Eve" onwards. And I say that as a proud Jew.

Is magic real? Yes.

Does God exist? I think so.

Does God play any roll in what happens here on Earth? No. That's why we have free will.

Is Jimmy Page a wizard? He's listed as a Thelemic wizard, so yes.

Do mythical seamonsters exist? How much of the ocean's creatures haven't we discovered yet? What creature's klive in those unexplored depths. Do seamonsters exist? Wasn't the giant squid a mythical seamonster before its discovery? Yes, they do. It's just a matter of when they will be scientifically documented.

But then we ge in to the realm of science fiction. If any alien civilization has spaceships that can travel across space, whose to say they don't have hyperdrive (or something similar)? Just because we humans call it scifi and impossible does not mean it's not a well-used technology for another advanced civilization.

We humans make the mistake of thinking we are the most intelligient, most advanced civilization in the Universe, and that, my friends, is complete and utter bullshit. Hell, we're probably not even the most intelligent on our own planet. There most likely is at least one civilization lightyears ahead of us technologically. Why can I believe that, you ask? Well, we already know this universe is infintely large. It has to have more inhabited planets in it then just Earth. Considering that, why, then, do we humans have to be the most advanced? In this infinitely large vacuum of space that we call the Universe are an unknown amount of galaxies. Within those galaxies are even more solar systems, and within those solar systems are even more planets. Chances are, there's at least one civilization out there that makes us look like we're still cavemen, if not hundreds of billions.

Just because we haven't figured out how to make hyperdrive a reality and how to make travelling much faster then light a reality, doesn't mean no civilization has. We are not the end all, be all. We are NOT the most advanced civilization in the Universe. That kind of thinking is egotistical and just plain stupid.

There could still be dinosaurs out there too somewhere. I agree that its possible but its just so far away. And the speed of light is the fastest known possible speed by the laws of physics. So they would have to over come time and distance no matter how advanced.

[Nathan]

There could still be dinosaurs out there too somewhere. I agree that its possible but its just so far away. And the speed of light is the fastest known possible speed by the laws of physics. So they would have to over come time and distance no matter how advanced.

Our physics.

Do you see what I mean? You base everything you say assuming that other civilizations are locked down by what we have discovered. Am I saying physics is different on different planets? Well, depending on the planet, it might have some variations.

However, we're still discovering things about physics, and it's quite possible other civilizations have not only discovered but used billions of things about physics that we aren't even close to touching on. Just because we say light is the fastest speed doesn't mean it's true. We most likely haven't discovered anything faster, yet. But I'll bet there are things faster then light. What? I don't know. But we aren't done making discoveries in these areas, yet. Not by a long shot.

Again, there are most likely billions of civilizations that make us look quite primitive.

Edited March 24, 2008 by Nathan

[ledzeppIV]

Our physics.

Do you see what I mean? You base everything you say assuming that other civilizations are locked down by what we have discovered. Am I saying physics is different on different planets? Well, depending on the planet, it might have some variations.

However, we're still discovering things about physics, and it's quite possible other civilizations have not only discovered but used billions of things about physics that we aren't even close to touching on. Just because we say light is the fastest speed doesn't mean it's true. We most likely haven't discovered anything faster, yet. But I'll bet there are things faster then light. What? I don't know. But we aren't done making discoveries in these areas, yet. Not by a long shot.

Again, there are most likely billions of civilizations that make us look quite primitive.

I wathched a show once that said someday if we think we spot a suitable place for life, we may send some in a ship, never to return of course, they would reproduce ono the ship and send signals back to Earth. Would have to grow plants and such and maybe bring animals. The way they were talking about achieving the fastest speed was using a type of increased momentum. Sir Isaac Newtons laws of motion coming into effect as there would hopefully be no imposinig opposite force to diminish the ever increaing momentum. And being in a vacuum it may not hurt the ship. Unless they hit an unseen asteroid and then its goodnight Irene.

[Uncle Bill]

Todays scientists have theory's of how to overcome the distance problem with out violating c (speed of light) or requiring different physics. Worm holes, warp drive, traveling through higher dimensions, black holes, to name a few. Who knows what an advanced civilization may have come up with. Even one only a thousand years advanced is likely to be way ahead of us. What about one a million or a billion years ahead?

[ledzeppIV]

Todays scientists have theory's of how to overcome the distance problem with out violating c (speed of light) or requiring different physics. Worm holes, warp drive, traveling through higher dimensions, black holes, to name a few. Who knows what an advanced civilization may have come up with. Even one only a thousand years advanced is likely to be way ahead of us. What about one a million or a billion years ahead?

But dont you wonder why we havent heard from them yet? Or SETA has never detected anything??

[Uncle Bill]

But dont you wonder why we havent heard from them yet? Or SETA has never detected anything??

Yes, I wonder that all the time. I think it's more of a case of civilizations being advanced at the same time. Who knows how many have come and gone in the last 13 billion years or so. A civilization could arise and evolve for million years and die off for some reason and be easily lost in the thirteen thousand million year history of the universe.

On seti> we have only been listening a few decades in some parts of the sky, and only at radio frequency's. It may as simple as they don't use that method of communication.

[ledzeppIV]

I had always hope that the Loch Ness Monster existed. A Plesiosur. But once they revealed that old photo from around 1960 was a fake, that was it. But Ill tell what I am hoping for. The frozen Wooly Mammoth they found. They were going to thaw it with blow dryers. Take the DNA and cross it with a modern day elephant. After a few generations they could possibly bring back a Mammoth or maybe even a Sabre Tooth tiger if they found a good one.

[*I*LOVE*JIMMY!!]

I remember playing in the graveyards at night in Minnisota. I just moved there and the kids told me that the ghosts rise up at night from their graves. The first time I went I freaked and If memory serves me right I pee'd my pants. I really saw the ghosts!!!! NOT what it was was fireflies hovering above the graves trying to stay warm from the ground. At a distance it looks like it could be ghosts. Like everyone else I need proof.

[haze]

I somewhat believe in paranormal activity to a particular extent. plus it's just fun to try and set yourself a bunch of possibilities of what types of things/life-forms/species could be in existence. on the condition that you remember to maintain a significant and relevant selection.

quite frankly i don't believe in religion, period.

I think it's all bullshit. people who preach and attempt to inflict their thoughts and personal views into mass amounts of society are ridiculous. I firmly believe each person is entitled to their own opinion and preachers really have no right to try and spread their beliefs. it enrages the majority of people. there's a ton of conspiracies out there, i remember one specifically in which a particular group of people have strong belief that the goverment originally formed and produced the holy bible in order to brainwash society and collaborate religion with politics in a manipulative form so the true objective would be to merge the two into similar things and perhaps gain a possible way into promoting war.

for a primary example of some of these insane and intense conspiracies i'd highly recommend and suggest that you watch the following video, it's probably just about the most accurate conspiracy theory video i've seen in my entire life. i'd only personally recommend it if philosophy and conspiracies interest you. like myself.

click here.

also, i don't believe in coincidence, at all. it is absurd and inexistent.

Edited March 24, 2008 by haze

[ledzeppIV]

Yes, I wonder that all the time. I think it's more of a case of civilizations being advanced at the same time. Who knows how many have come and gone in the last 13 billion years or so. A civilization could arise and evolve for million years and die off for some reason and be easily lost in the thirteen thousand million year history of the universe.

On seti> we have only been listening a few decades in some parts of the sky, and only at radio frequency's. It may as simple as they don't use that method of communication.

What you say makes sense. But until we have some sort of proof I guess we have to still call it science fiction. I would certainly think they would send sound waves if they were intelligent. Of course a light signal would be better, faster but you would have to be able eliminate that it came from a star.

[Nathan]

I had always hope that the Loch Ness Monster existed. A Plesiosur. But once they revealed that old photo from around 1960 was a fake, that was it. But Ill tell what I am hoping for. The frozen Wooly Mammoth they found. They were going to thaw it with blow dryers. Take the DNA and cross it with a modern day elephant. After a few generations they could possibly bring back a Mammoth or maybe even a Sabre Tooth tiger if they found a good one.

Don't take this the wrong way, but dear God, I hope not. The creatures are dead. We would disrupt the ecosystem of the entire planet if we tried to reintroduce them. Would you hope the same if they found an intact... Tyranosaurus Rex or another very large meat-eating dinosaur?

Edited March 24, 2008 by Nathan

[ledzeppIV]

Don't take this the wrong way, but dear God, I hope not. The creatures are dead. We would disrupt the ecosystem of the entire planet if we tried to reintroduce them. Would you hope the same if they found an intact... Tyranosaurus Rex or another very large meat-eating dinosaur?

ie the Jurrassic Park thing. Yes I would do it in a minute. It would be incredible to see one. Of course it would have to be done safely. But finding intact dinosaur DNA may be impossible. Unless there is one frozen deep in the mountains-possible. They have the mammoth. I say we do it.

[Nathan]

ie the Jurrassic Park thing. Yes I would do it in a minute. It would be incredible to see one. Of course it would have to be done safely. But finding intact dinosaur DNA may be impossible. Unless there is one frozen deep in the mountains-possible. They have the mammoth. I say we do it.

Then something goes terribly wrong. What if that T-Rex escapes? What if, like in the movie Jurassic Park, that T-Rex had frog DNA, making it a-sexual? So it start reproducing... rapidly. Soon T-Rex's are running amok and humanity is in quite a bit of danger...

No. It's one thing if we keep it dead and learn about it that way. But alive? NOT a good idea...

[ledzeppIV]

Then something goes terribly wrong. What if that T-Rex escapes? What if, like in the movie Jurassic Park, that T-Rex had frog DNA, making it a-sexual? So it start reproducing... rapidly. Soon T-Rex's are running amok and humanity is in quite a bit of danger...

No. It's one thing if we keep it dead and learn about it that way. But alive? NOT a good idea...

I dont think even a T Rex would be a match for a missile fired from an Air Force jet.

[Nathan]

I dont think even a T Rex would be a match for a missile fired from an Air Force jet.

You're absolutely right...

Unless the fucking animal-rights activists have anything to do with it. Oh, that T-Rex could make a significant dent in the population, but they'll be sons-of-bitches ready to die to keep that T-Rex alive because "it's an animal and has its rights."

[ledzeppIV]

You're absolutely right...

Unless the fucking animal-rights activists have anything to do with it. Oh, that T-Rex could make a significant dent in the population, but they'll be sons-of-bitches ready to die to keep that T-Rex alive because "it's an animal and has its rights."

But a Wooly Mammoth is safe. It grazes on grass. It isnt going to attack if it is confined and has food. And we have the ability to recrate a Mammoth. I think it would be incredible. No chance of Megladon. The largest Shark to ever swim the Earth. So dont worry.

[Nathan]

But a Wooly Mammoth is safe. It grazes on grass. It isnt going to attack if it is confined and has food. And we have the ability to recrate a Mammoth. I think it would be incredible. No chance of Megladon. The largest Shark to ever swim the Earth. So dont worry.

True. But there's still the fact that our ecosystem has evolved without the Wooly Mammoth. I've no doubt reintroducing any dead species would be a very, very bad thing for our ecosystem, regardless of why that species died out in the first place.

Edited March 24, 2008 by Nathan

[Uncle Bill]

I dont think even a T Rex would be a match for a missile fired from an Air Force jet.

I don't know man, these helo's are having a hard time getting a lock-on this large T-Rex type monster. The grunts salvo their sams and he just ducks.

[ledzeppIV]

I don't know man, these helo's are having a hard time getting a lock-on this large T-Rex type monster. The grunts salvo their sams and he just ducks.

What say you Uncle Bill? Do we recreate a Mammoth or not????

[Uncle Bill]

What say you Uncle Bill? Do we recreate a Mammoth or not????

I wouldn't mind riding around on one, so ya I'm for it.

[ledzeppIV]

I wouldn't mind riding around on one, so ya I'm for it.

And we will send the T Rexs to Afghanistan. Perhaps they can get Bin Ladin.

[Tejanablonde]

And we will send the T Rexs to Afghanistan. Perhaps they can get Bin Ladin.

That has to be the cleverest logistical tactic ever! Literal mince meat from our opposition.

Brilliant!

[Tejanablonde]

I somewhat believe in paranormal activity to a particular extent. plus it's just fun to try and set yourself a bunch of possibilities of what types of things/life-forms/species could be in existence. on the condition that you remember to maintain a significant and relevant selection.

quite frankly i don't believe in religion, period.

I think it's all bullshit. people who preach and attempt to inflict their thoughts and personal views into mass amounts of society are ridiculous. I firmly believe each person is entitled to their own opinion and preachers really have no right to try and spread their beliefs. it enrages the majority of people. there's a ton of conspiracies out there, i remember one specifically in which a particular group of people have strong belief that the goverment originally formed and produced the holy bible in order to brainwash society and collaborate religion with politics in a manipulative form so the true objective would be to merge the two into similar things and perhaps gain a possible way into promoting war.

for a primary example of some of these insane and intense conspiracies i'd highly recommend and suggest that you watch the following video, it's probably just about the most accurate conspiracy theory video i've seen in my entire life. i'd only personally recommend it if philosophy and conspiracies interest you. like myself.

click here.

also, i don't believe in coincidence, at all. it is absurd and inexistent.

The conspiracy theories are interesting. I have never heard of the government's involvement in holy bible formation though. Any links to that theory?

[Nathan]

And we will send the T Rexs to Afghanistan. Perhaps they can get Bin Ladin.

Hmm...

Maybe...

You know what? If that's what we're gonna use the T-Rex for... bring him on!

[ledzeppIV]

These ghost sightings have me curious. Id like to hear more specifics from some that have said they have seen appartions. ie did they recognize it as a deceased person, or know them. Did it have shape? etc. I have always kind have wanted to see one but them again it would probably scare me half to death.