kashmiran Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 Personally, nothing trumps the version on the Led Zeppelin DVD. Quote
NickZepp Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 That's the Knebworth version. It is a great version. That may be one of their best versions. I think I would also take one of their LA Shows. 6-23 or 6-27 maybe. Quote
kashmiran Posted June 9, 2008 Author Posted June 9, 2008 I downloaded a great version from Limewire. It had no ID except "Achilles Last Stand (Live, Excellent version!)". I don't think it's from '77 because it doesn't segue from Page's '77 solo. It's probably from '80, because I know it's not from Knebworth. My only complaint is that Page doesn't really go for the solo. He plays it alright, but he just doen't quite get there, you know? Quote
jimmy page66 Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 the best version besides dvd one is 21th at the la forum Quote
Agamemnon Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I love 5-21-77 at Houston, 4-27 in Cleveland, and LTTE especially. Quote
kashmiran Posted June 14, 2008 Author Posted June 14, 2008 I love 5-21-77 at Houston, 4-27 in Cleveland, and LTTE especially. Say what!?! How did 4-27, '77 get on your favorites list? I have that version (but then, who doesn't ) I personally don't like that version. Robert's voice cracks horribly on "To seek the man who's pointing hand...". I guess you're entitled to your own opinion though. Page's solo is pretty good on this version though, on the positive side. Quote
chef free Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Go listen to 6/23/77 again! It just thunders, JPJ's scratching bass, Pagie's wailing solo and JOHN HENRY BONHAM!!!!! Quote
stairway71 Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 favorite version: http://www.ledzeppelin.com/achilles-last-stand-live-1977 6/23/77 Quote
Roxie Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 I love 5-21-77 at Houston, 4-27 in Cleveland, and LTTE especially. Say what!?! How did 4-27, '77 get on your favorites list? I have that version (but then, who doesn't ) I personally don't like that version. Robert's voice cracks horribly on "To seek the man who's pointing hand...". I guess you're entitled to your own opinion though. I like the Cleveland version too... crack or no crack. lol Quote
kashmiran Posted June 16, 2008 Author Posted June 16, 2008 favorite version: http://www.ledzeppelin.com/achilles-last-stand-live-1977 6/23/77 That video doesn't work. It just says "Sorry, this video is not available" on the screen. However, after listening to my boot from that show, I have too agree, this version kicks several levels of arse! Quote
andrew Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 I downloaded a great version from Limewire. It had no ID except "Achilles Last Stand (Live, Excellent version!)". I don't think it's from '77 because it doesn't segue from Page's '77 solo. It's probably from '80, because I know it's not from Knebworth. My only complaint is that Page doesn't really go for the solo. He plays it alright, but he just doen't quite get there, you know? might be Zurich 1980. Quote
tohmss007 Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 Try the link again, it worked for me and it is a great video collage of an outstanding performance. Quote
kashmiran Posted June 16, 2008 Author Posted June 16, 2008 might be Zurich 1980. Plant introduces the song like this: "James Patrick Page..." (Long pause while Jimmy plays a few short notes) "This is one from Presence; It's called 'Achilles Last Stand'." Also, at the end of the song, just as they're about to stop and Page will reprise the intro sequence, Plant yells: "Yes, yes", followed by two nearly incomprehensible syllables ending in an "O" or "er" sound. (Possibly "Never!" or "Don't Go!") Quote
kashmiran Posted June 17, 2008 Author Posted June 17, 2008 Plant introduces the song like this: "James Patrick Page..." (Long pause while Jimmy plays a few short notes) "This is one from Presence; It's called 'Achilles Last Stand'." Also, at the end of the song, just as they're about to stop and Page will reprise the intro sequence, Plant yells: "Yes, yes", followed by two nearly incomprehensible syllables ending in an "O" or "er" sound. (Possibly "Never!" or "Don't Go!") After a long search, I have found the culprit: Frankfurt 1980. That's the version I downloaded. Now that I listen to it again, Page's solo is actually pretty good. Basically the same as the Knebworth solo from the DVD. Slight variations, though. Now I can tell you, without a doubt: My Favourite version is: (Drumroll please) June 30th, 1980 - The Festhalle in Frankfurt, Germany! Quote
scs Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 Ask me any trivia question, any at all, about Led Zeppelin, and I guarantee you I'll know the answer. Go ahead, try it. What other two names did LZ go by?? Quote
kashmiran Posted June 18, 2008 Author Posted June 18, 2008 What other two names did LZ go by?? "The Biggest Band in the World" "The New Yardbirds" Now, can we please stay on topic? If you want to ask me trivia, PM me. Quote
NickZepp Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 "The Biggest Band in the World" "The New Yardbirds" Now, can we please stay on topic? If you want to ask me trivia, PM me. It's Nobs and it was named after Claude Nobs, it wasn't a sex reference. Back on topic. 80 actually had a lot of solid versions of Achilles. I have every show from 1980 and that's the song they nailed the most in the 80 tour. There's a few bad versions though. One of my favorites is from Dortmond 6-17 where Robert jokes about it being recorded by Ted Nugent. Quote
kashmiran Posted June 19, 2008 Author Posted June 19, 2008 not "NOBS"? They were only called that once because of their first album cover. I don't think that's enough to count it. Quote
NickZepp Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 They were only called that once because of their first album cover. I don't think that's enough to count it. It does count because it was for one gig. They were never The Best Band for a gig. That's just your name for them. Quote
kashmiran Posted June 19, 2008 Author Posted June 19, 2008 It does count because it was for one gig. They were never The Best Band for a gig. That's just your name for them. It's not just my name for them. Cameron Crowe refered to them under that title a few times. The liner notes for the new TSRTS refers to them under that title. And, their Wikipedia entry does, also. That's 3 sources (Well, 2+1/2, Wikipedia isn't that reliable). Fine, then: "The Biggest Band in the World" "The New Yardbirds" "The Nobs" Now, onward to the topic at hand! Quote
jimmy page66 Posted June 20, 2008 Posted June 20, 2008 I love the Frankfurt version 30th of june... Quote
3hrsoflunacy Posted June 20, 2008 Posted June 20, 2008 Outside of the 1979.08.04 Knebworth version, I would say Frankfurt is my second favorite. Those first few notes from Jonesy really stand out more than other performances, IMO. The second night in Copenhagen is good, as well as the ones mentioned from the LA Forum in '77. Quote
zepscoda Posted March 23, 2012 Posted March 23, 2012 Duck Walks & Lasers........... 5/22/77 Ft Worth, is my favorite. The 1980 versions are great and I really like the delay on Jimmy's guitar, but most that I have heard are to dry..........damn sound board recordings ! Quote
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