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mrlowry

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  1. Glad to be of help. I find it crazy that 3 out of the 4 members of Led Zeppelin had singles before the band.
  2. I think it's part jealousy and part attention seeking. Every time he bashes someone else it makes headlines and gets him and by extension The Who big publicity.
  3. I will buy the package day one. It is my favorite post-Zeppelin Jimmy Page project.
  4. John Paul Jones had another solo song called "Baja" but I don't think it meets your description as well but worth checking out as a possibility if it isn't "A Foggy Day In Vietnam."
  5. John Paul Jones had a pre-Led Zeppelin single called "A Foggy Day In Vietnam." Have you heard that? Is that it possibly? It kind of meets your description.
  6. Wow, That's a lot of great information. So do you feel that the slightly muddy or murky sound on many Led Zeppelin recordings is a creative choice and not a limitation of the recording technology?
  7. Is this the first master that had too much dynamic range for the turntables of the day and caused some needles to jump out of the groove?
  8. Some of this is correct but it's too much of a simplification. Firstly; and most importantly many times Jimmy Page has 4 or 5 layers of guitars playing the same part to give it that thick and heavy sound. For an example if you listen very closely to Black Dog it has one guitar part but that one part is made up of multiple layers of different performances of that one guitar part (probably 5 layers.) You can hear this same approach but with less guitars on "In My Time of Dying" where two different guitars play the same part. One has a fuzzier tone and one has a cleaner tone. Listen to it on headphones, which makes it easier to hear them. Secondly, many times Jimmy Page would have a guitar-army arrangement with many guitar parts going on at the same and because he was only one person he had to overdub them. Songs like "Celebration Day", "Trampled Under Foot", "Dancing Days", "Ten Years Gone", and "Achilles Last Stand" are all great examples. The first four start to sound a bit muddy because of the multiple guitar parts and layers of tape hiss. By the time "Achilles" comes around apparently tape noise reduction got good enough were it wasn't as much of a problem That's why Presence is probably their cleanest sounding album. With analog there are two things to worry about. The first is generation loss which is when you copy one tape to another tape when bouncing down multiple tracks to one track to free up recording space, as described by the post above. The second is the loss that occurs every time a piece of analog tape runs through a machine a little bit of the magnetic material is worn off in the process. Queen faced this problem when recording "Bohemian Rhapsody." They even joked about being able to see through the tape by the end of the recording session. Fleetwood Mac (with Rumors) and Pink Floyd (with The Wall) tried to address the issue of tape wear by recording the rhythm tracks on a tape then copied that tape to work on. After all of the other work was done they then went back to the pristine rhythm track tapes to finish the work by bring in the overdubs at that point so the basic rhythm track tape didn't have to go through the machine over, and over, and over, and over again. For the Fleetwood Mac Rumors sessions they discuss that work flow extensively on the Classic Albums documentary that covers it. It's a good DVD if you haven't seen it. To my knowledge Jimmy Page never used this pristine rhythm track method with Led Zeppelin, probably because it would have slowed down the recording process and disrupted his creativity too much.
  9. Keep in mind that with analog tape every time you overdub something you get an additional layer of tape hiss. Since many times Jimmy Page had multiple layers of the same guitar part or multiple guitar parts at the same time the overall background noise of nearly song that they recorded in the studio was going to be higher. To my ears the worst offender is "Celebration Day" which sounds pretty murky and muddy, luckily it suits the song in a cool way because it adds a touch of mystery. Another potential issue is that many of the albums were recorded with mobile studios in unconventional locations as apposed to a standard studio. Noise reduction on tape eventually partially overcame the overdub/tape hiss issue which is why Presence, which probably has the most overdubs still sounds pretty clean.
  10. Does anyone else think that this case might have been holding up 50th Anniversary or live album plans and things will start moving again?
  11. Is there any information on how much footage of the Zeppelin performance at the Texas International Pop Festival exists? What is the source? Is the available clip complete or is there more and it is just a sample?
  12. Being a member of the Rolling Stones would have been a complete waste of Jimmy Page's talent.
  13. Now thats an interesting idea because the documentary and the Japan shows do cover the same time period.
  14. I'm surprised that Jimmy Page did not issue a DVD audio or sacd with both 2-channel and 5.1 surround when he did the latest remasters. A big missed opportunity.
  15. The true 50th anniversary has came and went, with nothing new of consequence being released. I think it's time to close this thread and open a 51st anniversary thread.
  16. An Earls Court release is long overdue. I'd like to see a best of full concert video and a boxed set of audio CD's of all the full concerts. It would be a great 50th Anniversary release but a ton of work. If it isn't ready now it won't be happening this year. Sadly, it's looking more and more like there won't be any live video or audio releases this year.
  17. It sounds like whatever live release that was being planned won't happen this year. Very sad. I dont agree with Mr Page that only things that havent been bootlegged are worthy of release for two reasons, first not everyone collects the bootlegs and second any tape that would be in his possession should be of much better quality.
  18. Does anyone else think that it's possible that the Stairway To Heaven lawsuit might be holding up a 50th Anniversary live release or releases?
  19. It would be great to hear all 10 of the demos but they haven't leaked out by now they probably never will.
  20. I too consider 2019 to be the true 50th anniversary and it should have kicked off with the release date for Led Zeppelin I. Let's be honest though, we are at least 3 months into 2019 and don't have anything major to show for it. It's been radio silence so far with no announcements, let alone new releases. They have live stuff that they could put out, where's Earl's Court (best of the nights to make a full set list or boxed set of all nights), where's Knebworth, where's a release from the Japan multitracks, how about a blu-ray HD release of the 1970 Royal Albert Hall from the original film 16mm negative, That isn't even touching on any of the multitrack tapes that Jimmy probably has that we don't even know about. They don't owe me anything and I don't want to sound like an ungrateful fan but they started the 50th Anniversary hype-train in motion and got me on board, now I just want to go somewhere.
  21. It's amazing that something this basic is still a bit of a mystery. If this were The Beatles we were talking about we'd not only know for sure who the back up singer was but what brand of toothpaste they had used that morning.
  22. I would love to hear the 4-5 unreleased tracks and see a documentary made up of the extensive video footage shot by David Coverdale. This is by far my favorite post-Led Zeppelin Jimmy Page project and that includes the two albums that he did with Robert Plant. This album gets revisited often at my house. Day one purchase.
  23. That slipped my memory. I'll have to give it a spin.
  24. It's a gentle sounding voice that sounds similar to the voice on Jimmy Page's single "She Just Satisfies." I've heard Robert Plant say that John Bonham had a good singing voice but I don't know if I've ever heard it. I also don't think its John Paul Johns because it doesn't sound similar to his singing on the Thunder Thief album. So I'm voting Mr. Page.
  25. From what I've heard they were a shadow of their former selves on the 1980 European tour and from the sound of it the audience knew it. Page's guitar tone and playing aren't what they should have been, Plant is going through the motions with little real passion, Bonzo isn't Bonzo, and Jones is trying so hard just to hold everything together. Even if Bonham hadn't passed away I think that Zeppelin was close to the end and Robert was ready to walk away from the band. After the American tour he probably would have quit. Maybe they would have gotten back together a few years later but we'll never know.
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