danelectro59 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 well, tickle my ass with a feather. never saw that coming http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/01/11/mark-mcgwire-admits-using-steroids-in-1998/?icid=main|netscape|dl1|link5|http%3A%2F%2Fmlb.fanhouse.com%2F2010%2F01%2F11%2Fmark-mcgwire-admits-using-steroids-in-1998%2F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planted Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Yeah, what a wicked shawkah! Took him long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) Maris and Aaron still have the records as far as I'm concerned. Bonds and McGwire are two of the worst examples of model athletes for the young generations that I've known in my lifetime. Too little, too late. Baseball sold out with the strike in 1994. That's when they were exposed. It took the juiceheads to bring it back in 1998, when everyone, from commissioners to owners to managers to fans, could care less about the details and just wanted the entertainment -and all the spoils it brought. Edited January 12, 2010 by bigstickbonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page-ist Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I wonder if Barry Bonds will ever fess-up? Nah... PS Hank Aaron is the one and only all time home runs leader! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pb Derigable Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Im glad he did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starbreaker Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Took him long enough. I'll say. For me, in terms of single season home runs, Roger Maris still owns the single season home run record at 61, and Hank Aaron owns the career home run record at 755. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59LesPaul Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) Baseball sold out with the strike in 1994. That's when they were exposed. It took the juiceheads to bring it back in 1998, I agree with the general sentiment,but aren't you forgetting something? (September 6,1995) ....and if you ask me,Roger Maris should have the asterisk: Edited January 12, 2010 by 59LesPaul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YipeeKiYay Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 [sarcasm] OMG! How could this happen?! He couldn't have been! [/sarcasm] but, in reality, whoever is surprised, is surprised. just took him too long to admit his fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I agree with the general sentiment,but aren't you forgetting something? (September 6,1995) My regards, Ripken's achievement was one of the sports highlights of the decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrycja Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Maris and Aaron still have the records as far as I'm concerned. Bonds and McGwire are two of the worst examples of model athletes for the young generations that I've known in my lifetime. Too little, too late. Baseball sold out with the strike in 1994. That's when they were exposed. It took the juiceheads to bring it back in 1998, when everyone, from commissioners to owners to managers to fans, could care less about the details and just wanted the entertainment -and all the spoils it brought. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryD Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 (edited) Let's not let any sportsmen even eat MEAT. That could add muscle too ya know. As far as substance enhancement etc., how many here realize the extent that some of the oldtimers used to use AMPHETAMINES while playing? (Ask Willie Mays about his special 'cocktails' ) Does that count? Are we gonna denounce their contributions to the sport? I seriously doubt that Cal Ripken was a substance user though, he's probably one of the few pure one's out there. Edited January 12, 2010 by LarryD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bitnogoodjive Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Let's not let any sportsmen even eat MEAT. That could add muscle too ya know. As far as substance enhancement etc., how many here realize the extent that some of the oldtimers used to use AMPHETAMINES while playing? (Ask Willie Mays about his special 'cocktails' ) Does that count? Are we gonna denounce their contributions to the sport? Speaking of which.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryD Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Great animation! Yep, coming straight from Doc Ellis's mouth, he says 90% (could be exaggeration, but still) of the players used the 'greens', SPEED! I bet that's gonna hit those baseball fans like it does unsuspecting rock fans, when they realize their favorite rock stars engaged in such diabolical behavior too! Oh what a tangled web they weave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchris Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I'd never have thought American 'athletes' used steroids! I just don't know what to believe in anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slagfarmer Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Mark McGwire's career was a fraud. I remember yelling roid boy at him and José Canseco way back in the Oakland days! His coming clean was no surprise. Not one of these steroid cheaters should get into the hall of fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Let's not let any sportsmen even eat MEAT. That could add muscle too ya know. As far as substance enhancement etc., how many here realize the extent that some of the oldtimers used to use AMPHETAMINES while playing? (Ask Willie Mays about his special 'cocktails' ) Does that count? Are we gonna denounce their contributions to the sport? I seriously doubt that Cal Ripken was a substance user though, he's probably one of the few pure one's out there. The thing is, no one disputes the fact that most of the accusations of usage amongst players occured during a time when MLB had no official steroid policy so, in that regard, you can not hold them accountable for taking a substance that is currently illegal. That being said, the fact is the integretity of the game was tarnished because of wide spread steroid usage, and to add insult to injury, because these big name sluggers have repeatedly denied such claims when all evidence has pointed toward guilty, it continues to only further ruin the game. Giambi and Pettitte did it right. They came out immediately and flat out said they took steroids and they made a mistake. Now look at them, their reputations may be slightly tainted but they are by no means destroyed..and Pettitte just won his 5th World Series ring in November. But the bottom line still is the same: Steroids don't make you hit home runs. That's a God given talent. As much as I despise someone like Bonds, he was HOF bound way before he bulked up on the juice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepps_apprentice Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 as a fan of St.Louis i respected McGwire deeply, now idk what to think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eternal light Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Even the people who you deeply respect can have their weak spots. It's human nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance the Crunge Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 In an unaired part of the interview, after denying the correlation between the steroids and his power, he went on to claim that food has no impact on his hunger and drink does not help his thirst. In addition, he watched the stork depart each time one of his children was delivered as he and his wife have never done anything to result in the little people running around his house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 What happened to the good 'ol days when they just had hemmorhoids? What the hell happened to Sammy Sosa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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danelectro59 Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 The thing is, no one disputes the fact that most of the accusations of usage amongst players occured during a time when MLB had no official steroid policy so, in that regard, you can not hold them accountable for taking a substance that is currently illegal. That being said, the fact is the integretity of the game was tarnished because of wide spread steroid usage, and to add insult to injury, because these big name sluggers have repeatedly denied such claims when all evidence has pointed toward guilty, it continues to only further ruin the game. Giambi and Pettitte did it right. They came out immediately and flat out said they took steroids and they made a mistake. Now look at them, their reputations may be slightly tainted but they are by no means destroyed..and Pettitte just won his 5th World Series ring in November. But the bottom line still is the same: Steroids don't make you hit home runs. That's a God given talent. As much as I despise someone like Bonds, he was HOF bound way before he bulked up on the juice. Quite true. These guys may be victims of the times. While I don't condone using any performance enhancing drugs of any kind, you almost have to say you can't blame them. Look at whats at stake. Not only the millions of dollars and multi year contracts. You also have a well oiled media machine ready and willing to put these guys on pedestals no one could ever imagine. These guys egos are stratospheric and most of them couldn't bear the thought of not having all of the benefits that go along with superstardom. So if something comes along that will give them that edge, or advantage, i don't know if it would be easy to turn it down. The consequences of getting caught should be so severe that it would dissuade any one from even thinking about using them. It's MLB's responsibility to keep the game honest and if Bud Selig can't do it, then someone else should. Kennesaw Mountain Landis was right when he banned those 8 Black Sox players for throwing the World Series. Maybe Bud should do the same with these juiceheads. Rules are rules and at that level there should be no exception Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstickbonzo Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 What the hell happened to Sammy Sosa? He finally learned English...then fled the country! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 He finally learned English...then fled the country! They probably don't believe it's really him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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