Strider Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Thanks Strider and ZeppMan. This is such a kick ass song. I have to say I like the version Jimmy played with the Black Crowes more than the Zep studio version. Apparently, Jimmy liked Wonton Song more than Robert...just sayin' I will check out the Chicago live versions you suggested Strider. Thanks for the youtube clip ZeppMan. Living down in the 'Big Easy' must have you hungry...it is Wanton not Wonton. Think of it like this: Wanton = horny; Wonton = hungry. "The Wanton Song" through the years... Led Zeppelin 1.20.75 Chicago Page & Plant 9.29.95 Albuquerque, NM Page & Plant 5.12.98 Jools Holland Show Page & Black Crowes 7.10.00 Jones Beach, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottedplant Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 You're right Strider, I must have been thinking of the Chinese take-out I had last night. Definition of Wanton definitely suits the band better than Chinese take-out. Thanks for the vids. I will now sit back and listen to all of them and see if I change my mind about the Black Crowes version. I am also enjoying JPJ's bass as played in the Lemon Song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottedplant Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 You're right Strider, I must have been thinking of the Chinese take-out I had last night. Definition of Wanton definitely suits the band better than Chinese take-out. Thanks for the vids. I will now sit back and listen to all of them and see if I change my mind about the Black Crowes version. I am also enjoying JPJ's bass as played in the Lemon Song. Fuck the Black Crowe's version - Jools Holland version wins hands down - I love, love the guitar and drums on this song more than I can even say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magerogue Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The only problem with the black crowes version was the vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pottedplant Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The only problem with the black crowes version was the vocals. Yes, I always liked the Black Crowes version because of Jimmy and only Jimmy. Jools Holland has the best of Jimmy and Robert. Can't beat that. I don't know why I am so hung up on this song all of a sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Yes, I always liked the Black Crowes version because of Jimmy and only Jimmy. Jools Holland has the best of Jimmy and Robert. Can't beat that. I don't know why I am so hung up on this song all of a sudden. It's a good song to get hung up on. I love in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magerogue Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 It's a good song to get hung up on. I love in particular. Man... did radio sound that awfull in the 70's?? The mudiest of muddy bootlegs have better quality than that. Still a great example of what the wanton song was live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Man... did radio sound that awfull in the 70's?? The mudiest of muddy bootlegs have better quality than that. Still a great example of what the wanton song was live. The short answer: Yes. But that isn't a live rendition -- it's an alternate mix of the studio track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I don't know why I am so hung up on this song all of a sudden. Because it's an awesome song. A real sexual swagger with a kick-to-the-gut kind of song...an out-and-out rocker. No muss, no fuss, no mysticism, no fancy filigree. "The Wanton Song" and "The Rover" were two of the most underrated and neglected songs from Physical Graffiti. They should have been played live in concert from the moment they were recorded and remained in the setlist to the end. I'll try to find more "Wanton"s for you pottedplant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom kid Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Because it's an awesome song. A real sexual swagger with a kick-to-the-gut kind of song...an out-and-out rocker. No muss, no fuss, no mysticism, no fancy filigree. "The Wanton Song" and "The Rover" were two of the most underrated and neglected songs from Physical Graffiti. They should have been played live in concert from the moment they were recorded and remained in the setlist to the end. I'll try to find more "Wanton"s for you pottedplant. Yep - Wish they had played the full version of The Rover in '77 as opposed to just the intro then launching into Sick Again. It worked pretty well but it would have been much much better if they had done The Rover imo. Although, sometimes Jimmy was seemingly struggling with only the intro (first night in Cleveland comes to mind) so maybe a familiar song such as Sick Again which he had played every night in 1975 was a better choice, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magerogue Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Yep - Wish they had played the full version of The Rover in '77 as opposed to just the intro then launching into Sick Again. It worked pretty well but it would have been much much better if they had done The Rover imo. Although, sometimes Jimmy was seemingly struggling with only the intro (first night in Cleveland comes to mind) so maybe a familiar song such as Sick Again which he had played every night in 1975 was a better choice, Did they ever give out a reason as to why they never played the full song on a live show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Did they ever give out a reason as to why they never played the full song on a live show? I doubt they've ever been asked that question, so no. Most journalists at the time had only a passing knowledge of Led Zeppelin's catalogue...they wouldn't know "The Rover" from "Sick Again". They knew "Stairway" and "Whole Lotta Love" and little else. The ones who were supposedly fans and presumably would know the songs, like Stephen Davis, were too busy asking stupid questions about devil worship, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magerogue Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 The ones who were supposedly fans and presumably would know the songs, like Stephen Davis, were too busy asking stupid questions about devil worship, etc. Ain't that right! Well I guess they had to do the tabloids and I doubt that " Zeppelin played the Rover for the first time!" would sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I'd assume the lyrical content of "The Rover" wasn't heavy enough for 1975 or 1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I'd assume the lyrical content of "The Rover" wasn't heavy enough for 1975 or 1977. What does that mean? "The Song Remains the Same", "Rock and Roll", and "Black Dog" aren't exactly heavy lyrical concepts. Found one of the better Led Zeppelin performances of "The Wanton Song"...from January 22, 1975 in Chicago: This is kind of neat...brief rehearsal footage before their appearance on that wacky French TV show June 19, 1969: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirchzep27 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 With the talk about potential live material on the album box sets, I actually could see in studio, possible tour rehearsal stuff being more likely than live shows material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melcórë Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 What does that mean? Good idea! Might have been drunk...I believe I meant that the peace-and-love aspect of the song wouldn't have fit with the (comparatively) heavy "In My Time of Dying," or even "Kashmir." With the talk about potential live material on the album box sets, I actually could see in studio, possible tour rehearsal stuff being more likely than live shows material. The content of the "box-sets" is kind of up in the air: First, Jimmy said it was going to be studio only; then, he said there might be live material; since then, he has only mentioned studio material. I'd imagine live performances would be more likely than rehearsals, aside (maybe) from a few rarities or the later tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirchzep27 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 If the latest news still is jimmy page saying, there is alternate takes for everything, or almost everything...how much space does that leave on a companion cd? I don't really see this as a good opportunity for them to add a few live songs from shows. Who knows, they could have tapes and tapes of cover versions of early rock and blues. I would think that live material would be a whole separate project. If they do have actual tour rehearsals....which would be mind blowing, that would deserve its own project as well. Then again, if they are pre marketing future audio releases, then I could see them including live stuff. Just as the dvds, might be pre marketing future earls court and knebworth dvds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Personally, based on how they cut out the covers that were embedded in IMTOD and WLL for the Celebration Day release - I doubt they would release cover versions in these sets either. I think it will be just alternate versions of songs already on the albums, plus some unreleased songs that were previously not found in the "vaults". Just my $.02 worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirchzep27 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Good point walter, the royalties,licensing, might be a big obstacle. I can't help but think they have some great cover songs on tape. Look at plant in the early 2ks, priory of brion, dreamland record...the covers seemed to be a source of regeneration for him, until rearranger. If zep jammed on some cover songs in the studio, for inspiration or reflection...could be great stuff. What about that bonham interview, where he stated they always had leftover songs after each album. Look at all the tracks from 78, on coda....there has to be extra stuff from every record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAJones Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Look at all the tracks from 78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Only Way To Fly Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 ^^ That's pretty cool - I hope we get a real good peak in the box as to what was going on in the studio with the release of the box set. Chatter - Banter - Workouts or Run Downs of songs is what I'm excited (hopeful) for the most. Happy New Year Everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah J Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 worldwidekillerz has some great things on you tube. Are you looking for things like this and articles? Great thread by the way Sue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Only Way To Fly Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Wow! Thanks Deb! YES exactly! I've only had these recordings from really crummy sources. This is really cool. Thx again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah J Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 ^^:-) Another great one..ENJOY!! Robert Plant 1990 Fresno Rehearsal http://youtu.be/Cg66fLpmQKg Page & Plant 1996 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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