Jahfin Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 First of all thank you for referring me to this thread, what your saying intrigues me though as I know many life long fans not people who got lost along the way, what are your feelings towards the reunion in 1996 then? I didn't care anything about seeing it as I'd already seen Kiss in concert on the Rock n' Roll Over tour in 1976. You know how some people don't want to look at the corpse at funerals because they prefer to remember people when they were alive and well? That's how I felt about seeing Kiss again. Plus, as I've mentioned, I'd lost interest in Kiss a long time prior to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reswati Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Kiss, jeez....the band that I saw most I guess Lick it up tour, Essen Germany Animalize tour, Germany - concert taped, but tape lost Reunion tour, Rotterdam Netherlands - concert taped Reunion tour, Utrecht (the riot concert where they stopped after a few songs only to return after half an hour)- concert taped Psycho Circus Tour, Utrecht - taped but confiscated by security due to some idiot with a big camera next to me Would I ever go again? Just to get my daughter the kick of seeing Gene, she likes his stage moves, but she is too young yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) Poor Ace. The other three looked awesome, about 10 feet tall, and were full of enthusiasm and slutty banter. But Ace stayed slumped in his chair throughout, a totally forlorn figure - Wiped Out, and In Need Of Love. Nice play on the songs there loool ! I think COTN is one of their best albums even though Ace didn't play on it. I think the general consensus is that KISS have died out and should stop playing with their "tribute acts", truth be told KISS has always been the ultimate pragmatic band, quickly changing to new styles and seeing to the accidents that have happened in the band and because Gene and Paul have been in KISS since the very start so only without them it wouldn't be KISS but with them and any other two members it would be KISS as it always has been Eric Carr, Vinnie Vincent, Bruce Kulick etc. I mean Ace and Peter left over 30 years ago, Eric Carr was longer in KISS than Peter was and Bruce was in longer than Ace was. KISS has just gone through various stages to keep alive as a band as they know what the fans want whereas the opposition would argue it's for money... and for some reason they always have and will be a strong band because of the huge fanbase. They must have been doing something right to stay alive for the past near 40 years? Edited December 12, 2011 by TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pagemeister Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Gene is underrated as a vocalist Edited December 13, 2011 by The Pagemeister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 ^ One of their best tours and live additions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhairedqueen22 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 i'm a huge KISS fan and i have a huge crush on ace frehley *blushes a bright red* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Saw them first on the Animalize tour back in '84. Flew up to Detroit to see the reunion tour opener at Tiger Stadium, with Alice In Chains opening, and then caught them again on that tour down here in the 4th row - in front of Gene. Every show was fantastic. At this point they really are a joke though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Hopefully seeing them next year when they come to England, I don't really have a problem with this line up just as long as Gene and Paul remain in it (which they will) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie29 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) KISS remind me of Molly Hatchet, original name but not many if any, of the founding members. At least KISS or Gene Simmons was smart enough to realise that all the make up, costumes and pyrotechnics distracted from the mostly ordinary music they played. They did have a couple of fairly decent songs but nothing to be considered of a "classic" nature, IMHO. To each their own. Edited December 18, 2011 by Reggie29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock Historian Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Sounds like you're describing AC/DC there, Reg. What do you think about AC/DC? As for Kiss, the only cool thing I ever liked about them was the make-up. that was more attractive to me than any of their songs, personally speeking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie29 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Sounds like you're describing AC/DC there, Reg. They're both cut from the same cloth, Major!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie29 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 ^ Well that's a healthy attitude, Reg. Most Aussies I've met have been ridiculously proud of AC/DC. And Cold Chisel I've never been to Oz, but I hear it's a beautiful place. Unfortunately, your bands are pretty lame, or at least the ones I've heard, although I do have a soft spot for early Rose Tattoo - 'The Butcher and Fast Eddy' FTW . It must be like a cold beer to a man parched of thirst and dying when our bands visit your shores. I expect you saw Zep in 72? Which show(s) were you at? Chisel were a good live band back in the day but they are put up on this pedestal and treated as the best thing since sliced bread and I don't agree with that. I managed to catch the '72 Sydney show, it was the first "real" rock concert I'd seen and that's why I'm on here. Google a '90's band called The Cruel Sea, I think you'll like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) KISS bashing is for the narrow-minded, I know theres millions out there who could sit listening to KISS catalouge back to back without looking at the make-up. Yes the make-up was used in the late seventies to entice more fans but when they took it off it proved that people were still there along for the ride and without make-up they still went on to sell over 50 million Edited December 18, 2011 by TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) Although when I saw them on the Lick It Up tour, I did feel a bit 'cheated'. But like I said before, I met them in the flesh a couple years before, in full regalia, a foot away from me. I could even smell the greasepaint, and see Ace's pock-marks. Cool. I even touched Paul. I didn't wash my hands for a week after that. Ahh I see what you mean, when you saw them was it before or after they announced they were going unmasked? Edited December 18, 2011 by TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=8470591 Edited December 18, 2011 by TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pagemeister Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) It was after - Lick It Up was already out. When I said I felt 'cheated', I meant I was disappointed they weren't in make-up. I had been a big fan since Love Gun, and I could be wrong but I think the Lick It Up tour was the first time they'd played in the UK since, oh, maybe 1975? So it was a shame to have waited so long to see them, and then for them not to be in make-up - even though I knew they wouldn't be. Ohh I see where your coming from. People, masked vs unmasked? Unmasked for me they really showed they were more they were NOT the fad band they still are called... Edited December 19, 2011 by TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie29 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 KISS bashing is for the narrow-minded, I know theres millions out there who could sit listening to KISS catalouge back to back without looking at the make-up. Yes the make-up was used in the late seventies to entice more fans but when they took it off it proved that people were still there along for the ride and without make-up they still went on to sell over 50 million It's not as if people are going on to a Kiss forum or fansite and bagging them, that would be troll-like and rude. How many albums have they released, not counting live ones, make up the 50m? Along for the ride or taken for a ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 It's not as if people are going on to a Kiss forum or fansite and bagging them, that would be troll-like and rude. How many albums have they released, not counting live ones, make up the 50m? Along for the ride or taken for a ride? Well they have released 20 studio albums during both make up and non-make up selling over 100 m for both, You can't get taken for a ride as a fan or non fan you choose whether to listen or see them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahfin Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Blasphemous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Blasphemous! Agreed! How dare they ruin KISS make up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazedcat Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Actually that's pretty funny. Didn't Gene Simmons always say he wanted to be as big as the Beatles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Actually that's pretty funny. Didn't Gene Simmons always say he wanted to be as big as the Beatles? He's probably said that at some point. I know he's a huge fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the chase Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 He's probably said that at some point. I know he's a huge fan. Gene has always said they wanted to be the "Heavy Metal Beatles" with 4 distinct personalities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStairwayRemainsTheSame Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Why they never put this on The Elder is beyond me, might have even saved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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