Wolfman Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/muhammad-cartoonist-lars-vilks-attacked-during-college-lecture/19473427 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagemccartney95 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Oi vey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oracle Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 You sure that's Sweden? I only see a couple that could pass as Swedes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knebby Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 You serious? Should they all have looked like this? My link Or this? My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oracle Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 You serious? Should they all have looked like this? My link Or this? My link When I do an image search in google I get these photos on just the first page. Try it and see what you come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toscano Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/muhammad-cartoonist-lars-vilks-attacked-during-college-lecture/19473427 They're ALL religions of Peace. Christians bombing abortion clinics. Jews driving Palestinians out of their homelands. Muslims attacking cartoonists. All cut from the same cloth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dawg Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 When I do an image search in google I get these photos on just the first page. Try it and see what you come up with. You forgot Nicklas Bäckström and Charlotte Kalla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walesdad Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Civilised lot,are they not?Unfortunately parts of Sweden,Holland,France and the U.K has large muslim immigration so this is a sign of things to come I fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danelectro59 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 They're ALL religions of Peace. Christians bombing abortion clinics. Jews driving Palestinians out of their homelands. Muslims attacking cartoonists. All cut from the same cloth. where do Buddhists fit into the picture. Oh wait, they set themselves on fire. Does that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 The 'Thin Skins' strike again. Would you like some more pepper spray? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toscano Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 where do Buddhists fit into the picture. Oh wait, they set themselves on fire. Does that count? I was talking about the 3 religions of Abraham who all ostensibly believe in the same sky being Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oracle Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 from the article, As the assailant was led away by police, several people stormed the front of the room, chanting "God is great" in Arabic. Ya know, maybe just maybe if those in the crowd had yelled "God is great" in Swedish it would've been ok. Ya think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNK08 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Islam a religion of peace. That's some great marketing propaganda right there for all the liberal clowns to feed on. The Koran is full anti peace words, so we can start there. Fundamentally, Islam is not a religion of peace. Then we have to look at the actions and behaviors of Muslims in general. Certainly not peaceful. I could write a whole lot more, but the topic exhausts me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toscano Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Islam a religion of peace. That's some great marketing propaganda right there for all the liberal clowns to feed on. The Koran is full anti peace words, so we can start there. Fundamentally, Islam is not a religion of peace. Then we have to look at the actions and behaviors of Muslims in general. Certainly not peaceful. I could write a whole lot more, but the topic exhausts me. Everything he said is right. But so is this. Islam Christianity a religion of peace. That's some great marketing propaganda right there for all the liberal right-wing clowns to feed on. The Koran Bible is full anti peace words, so we can start there. Fundamentally, Islam Christianity is not a religion of peace. Then we have to look at the actions and behaviors of Muslims Christians in general. Certainly not peaceful. Are you the Pot or the Kettle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNK08 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I'm not talking about Christianity. No one goes around claiming Christianity is a religion of peace, but that's certainly become Islam's slogan. Since they keep on preaching this religion of peace garbage, then they've invited it to be discussed. Your comparisons, or the similarities you speak of, are irrelevant. The actions of Islam and Muslims around the globe make this pretty clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toscano Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I'm not talking about Christianity. No one goes around claiming Christianity is a religion of peace, but that's certainly become Islam's slogan. Since they keep on preaching this religion of peace garbage, then they've invited it to be discussed. Your comparisons, or the similarities you speak of, are irrelevant. The actions of Islam and Muslims around the globe make this pretty clear. But many right wing clowns speak about Islam and then extol the virtues of Christianity, and yet they're just 2 sides of the same coin. I don't object to criticism of Islam, but when one claims to speak from a position of moral superiority I have an issue. Whether that position is from a Christian point of view, or even from someone who supports say the actions of the US or UK governments over the years, which are as steeped in violence as Islam is. People in glass houses, rocks, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danelectro59 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 But many right wing clowns speak about Islam and then extol the virtues of Christianity, and yet they're just 2 sides of the same coin. I don't object to criticism of Islam, but when one claims to speak from a position of moral superiority I have an issue. Whether that position is from a Christian point of view, or even from someone who supports say the actions of the US or UK governments over the years, which are as steeped in violence as Islam is. People in glass houses, rocks, etc My man! Can I buy you a beer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUNK08 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 No one brought up Christianity in this thread. It's kind of an irrelevant comparison anyway. Of course there are two sides to every story, and I understand why Muslims are angry. I would be angry too if I was a Muslim. However, beyond any sort of political policy which is a cause for anger etc, there remains a fundamental ideology which prevents Muslims from ever fully embracing the western world. And in a world where large amounts of Muslims are immigrating to western nations, this is a problem. Even if we took away the Israel issue, and we took away the wars etc, this problem would still remain. The integration of Islam with the non Islamic world is an extremely complicated issue. Unfortunately, it hasn't been successful thus far. Who's fault is that? Well, it's certainly not the host nations' fault. In Europe, where there has been massive Muslim immigration, the host nations have generally had an extremely liberal and tolerant policy. Yet, Muslims fail to integrate, they typically abuse the social systems, and they generally turn which ever area they settle into something worse than it was before. Despite all of the opportunities they have in their new countries, they continue to be a failure. Then we must look at their home countries. Nearly every Muslim country is plagued by war, fighting, cruel "justice" systems, human rights violations, and a zero tolerance policy for anything non Muslim. You can build a Mosque anywhere in the world, but try to go to a Muslim country and build a church or some other place of worship. You simply will not be allowed, and if by some chance you were, it would likely be violently destroyed. There's a lot of hypocrisy in Islam: they immigrate to other nations, and expect those nations to cater to all of their religious rights, but in their home countries, they refuse to return the favor. Maybe all of the religious texts have violent or non peaceful words, but Islam seems to be the only religion in modern times that actively follows these words. The evidence is everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danelectro59 Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 No one brought up Christianity in this thread. It's kind of an irrelevant comparison anyway. Of course there are two sides to every story, and I understand why Muslims are angry. I would be angry too if I was a Muslim. However, beyond any sort of political policy which is a cause for anger etc, there remains a fundamental ideology which prevents Muslims from ever fully embracing the western world. And in a world where large amounts of Muslims are immigrating to western nations, this is a problem. Even if we took away the Israel issue, and we took away the wars etc, this problem would still remain. The integration of Islam with the non Islamic world is an extremely complicated issue. Unfortunately, it hasn't been successful thus far. Who's fault is that? Well, it's certainly not the host nations' fault. In Europe, where there has been massive Muslim immigration, the host nations have generally had an extremely liberal and tolerant policy. Yet, Muslims fail to integrate, they typically abuse the social systems, and they generally turn which ever area they settle into something worse than it was before. Despite all of the opportunities they have in their new countries, they continue to be a failure. Then we must look at their home countries. Nearly every Muslim country is plagued by war, fighting, cruel "justice" systems, human rights violations, and a zero tolerance policy for anything non Muslim. You can build a Mosque anywhere in the world, but try to go to a Muslim country and build a church or some other place of worship. You simply will not be allowed, and if by some chance you were, it would likely be violently destroyed. There's a lot of hypocrisy in Islam: they immigrate to other nations, and expect those nations to cater to all of their religious rights, but in their home countries, they refuse to return the favor. Maybe all of the religious texts have violent or non peaceful words, but Islam seems to be the only religion in modern times that actively follows these words. The evidence is everywhere. which is why the words hypocrisy and religion should always be included in the same sentence. I'm a non believer and have no problem with admitting that. I sleep well at night and have no fear of the after life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripmender Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Muslims are very fortunate that Islam already exists. Why? Because if anybody tried to set up a belief system or political party which espoused traditional Muslim values in modern Britain, it would be banned on the basis that it promotes racial and theological hatred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alinds Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 How about them Crusades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrum Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 How about them Crusades? Sounds like another one is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anjin-san Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Hi redgrum,all, Sounds like another one is needed. I agree.Yet some deflect and talk about another matter,... KB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrycja Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 One more reason why Banksy rocks. http://www.banksy.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toscano Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 My man! Can I buy you a beer? Ummm....yes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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