gibsonfan159 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Of all the releases I'd actually love to hear get remastered, No Quarter/Unledded is one, both the album and video. The sound isn't bad on the original but there's not much instrument separation, and the vocals sit way higher than everything else. Considering the use of the orchestra, this could really be an amazing reissue. I'd love to have a BluRay with some extra footage added, maybe including the "making of". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpense Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1. It is not part of the Led Zeppelin catalog and 2. It was released twice. Originally in 1994 and again (expanded) in 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonfan159 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, sixpense said: 2. It was released twice. Originally in 1994 and again (expanded) in 2004. I was not aware of an expanded version. Cool beans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slp9b Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 It wasn’t just expanded in 2004 - it was also remixed, and sounds much better. Problem is the 2004 version leaves off “Thank You”, but on the plus side it has “The Rain Song”. I consider the 2004 version far superior to the original. But I don’t listen to that version anymore - I ripped the 24bit files from the DVD and listen to it on my FLAC player, and it has all the songs, and in hi res, so that’s the way to go really if you know how to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Why, what would be the point. If you polish a turd it's still a turd, imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew r Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, JTM said: Why, what would be the point. If you polish a turd it's still a turd, imho. At the time was not considered a turd .I remember the excitement leading up to the broadcast and the thought that JP AND RP were going to play together again. its an honest document of that period and the first release from any combination of the surviving members for over a decade. It also rehabilitated James P as a guitar player and led to the Clarksdale lp Which could do with an overhaul more, frankly, as its good material let down by poor production. So sorry no turd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTM Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 59 minutes ago, andrew r said: At the time was not considered a turd .I remember the excitement leading up to the broadcast and the thought that JP AND RP were going to play together again. its an honest document of that period and the first release from any combination of the surviving members for over a decade. It also rehabilitated James P as a guitar player and led to the Clarksdale lp Which could do with an overhaul more, frankly, as its good material let down by poor production. So sorry no turd. You are right, it wasn't considered a turd, I fact I really liked it, bought all the CD singles to get the trax not on the album. But I recently put it on and decided it wasn't that good, it just sounded wrong. Ya never know one day I may change my mind again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonfan159 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 hours ago, JTM said: Why, what would be the point. If you polish a turd it's still a turd, imho. Opinion of course, but I think it was the most Zep-ish thing they'd done after the band ended. Yallah was based off a riff Page played during the 77 No Quarters. City Don't Cry was a cool little track. I didn't care much for Wonderful One though. Those remixes of No Quarter and NFBM are some of my favorites. And Plant's voice was extremely strong around this time. The Rain Song and Thank You are some of the best performances ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paganini Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 14 hours ago, gibsonfan159 said: Of all the releases I'd actually love to hear get remastered, No Quarter/Unledded is one, both the album and video. The sound isn't bad on the original but there's not much instrument separation, and the vocals sit way higher than everything else. Considering the use of the orchestra, this could really be an amazing reissue. I'd love to have a BluRay with some extra footage added, maybe including the "making of". ..give it time and there certainly will be 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemophilist Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I definitely think Walking in to Clarksdale could use a serious remastering. It's good that it's honest sounding but Page's guitar tracks tend to sound a little too distant. Just my opinion of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slp9b Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, nemophilist said: I definitely think Walking in to Clarksdale could use a serious remastering. It's good that it's honest sounding but Page's guitar tracks tend to sound a little too distant. Just my opinion of course Agreed - but it also needs to be remixed. Robert Plant’s vocals are way too dry on WiC, if you ask me. While it’s not the masterpiece everyone hoped for, there are some songs on it I really love, I’d love to see a re-release. But what we really need from the Page/Plant era is an official live release from the two tours. I’d settle for a nice compilation from the ‘96 Japan shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew r Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 10 hours ago, slp9b said: Agreed - but it also needs to be remixed. Robert Plant’s vocals are way too dry on WiC, if you ask me. While it’s not the masterpiece everyone hoped for, there are some songs on it I really love, I’d love to see a re-release. But what we really need from the Page/Plant era is an official live release from the two tours. I’d settle for a nice compilation from the ‘96 Japan shows. Well it will be completely dependent on Jimmy being interested enough and RP allowing it to happen .Frankly considering the current state of play in the Zeppelin camp i would not hold my breath in expectation. The P&P project has been consigned to the history bin as far as RP is concerned, along with anything not solo orientated. A pity as there is a good album under Steve Albini's over Pixied production. (another plant choice the man has cloth ears production wise) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonfan159 Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, andrew r said: under Steve Albini's over Pixied production. (another plant choice the man has cloth ears production wise) Yeah, I don't think there's much hope for WIC simply because the production was bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, gibsonfan159 said: Yeah, I don't think there's much hope for WIC simply because the production was bad. The fact that the songs were so good live reinforces the fact that the production was so poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemophilist Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 15 hours ago, slp9b said: Agreed - but it also needs to be remixed. Robert Plant’s vocals are way too dry on WiC, if you ask me. While it’s not the masterpiece everyone hoped for, there are some songs on it I really love, I’d love to see a re-release. But what we really need from the Page/Plant era is an official live release from the two tours. I’d settle for a nice compilation from the ‘96 Japan shows. I definitely agree that it needs a remix as well. Ideally I'd of course prefer Zeppelin live releases and releases of unheard material by Jimmy Page, but I'd be happy if they reworked WIC as there is good material on there. I'd also be happy if they released a live show from Page and Plant as well. Personally I'd prefer a show from 1998 but whatever they'd release would be welcomed by me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolo1974 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 1:05 PM, slp9b said: It wasn’t just expanded in 2004 - it was also remixed, and sounds much better. Problem is the 2004 version leaves off “Thank You”, but on the plus side it has “The Rain Song”. I consider the 2004 version far superior to the original. But I don’t listen to that version anymore - I ripped the 24bit files from the DVD and listen to it on my FLAC player, and it has all the songs, and in hi res, so that’s the way to go really if you know how to do it. I only have the original. Didn’t realise there was a second release with the Rain Song. Thanks for the info - I’ll have to check it out. Acoustic version I presume? The acoustic version from the Japan (95/96?) tour is brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strombringer101 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I saw this concert in the Tacoma Dome. I thought the show was alright, some cool tunes. Then I saw Walking to... at the gorge at George WA st. Jimmy page took control of that show. Blew me away when they did How many more times ( bow section). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slp9b Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Xolo1974 said: I only have the original. Didn’t realise there was a second release with the Rain Song. Thanks for the info - I’ll have to check it out. Acoustic version I presume? The acoustic version from the Japan (95/96?) tour is brilliant https://www.amazon.com/No-Quarter-Jimmy-Robert-Unledded/dp/B0002VKZKM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2T635X67SV2D7&keywords=page+plant+no+quarter&qid=1547869394&sprefix=Page+plant+%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-1 The red cover is how you tell it’s the 2004 expanded version. And yes, “The Rain Song” is acoustic, and sounds fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirchzep27 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I wonder what the whole slate quarry set was....i would like to hear the rest of those songs, on the video they looked to be having so much fun. To me, the "unledded" vibe was best represented there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonfan159 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 23 minutes ago, kirchzep27 said: I wonder what the whole slate quarry set was....i would like to hear the rest of those songs, on the video they looked to be having so much fun. To me, the "unledded" vibe was best represented there. The quarry and the forest for No Quarter. Would've been an awesome idea to do a different setting for each song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirchzep27 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, gibsonfan159 said: The quarry and the forest for No Quarter. Would've been an awesome idea to do a different setting for each song. Totally, there has to be 45mins worth of that slate quarry set alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 I wish there was one complete audio release. It was frustrating that this track was only on the DVD. I don't think it is on any audio release? Great version. Should have been on the first audio release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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