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18 hours ago, Strider said:

the Raiders, Dolphins and Bills all made the playoffs in the 1974-75 and 1990-91 seasons.

You would ruin a wet dream Sean.  LOL.  So much for the Carinal fans giving me shit  Say bye bye to those pretenders.  And like Colin of the herd said, "a Hail Mary does not make you the better team".  He has the Bills ranked at 5.  Arizona at 10.  I am surprised we are only -6 vs Chargers.  If that does not go up Im going to get down.  I had Seattle last night.  My other bet that I love this week is INDY OVER GREEN BAY.  So there.  You have it.   I like both Ohio teams a little. Cleveland and Cincy.  I like the Raiders just a little because its the AFC West theory

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If the Bills, Dolphins, and Raiders being in the playoffs is your idea of a 'wet dream', you need to step up your game.

I can understand how you would forget the 1974-75 playoffs as the wild-card Bills weren't in it very long...getting smoked by Pittsburgh in the first round, while the Raiders won a classic thriller over the Dolphins.

But 1990-91 should be ingrained in your memory. The Bills beat the Dolphins and the Raiders in successive weeks. I know I'll always remember it. That was the year Bo Jackson got hurt in the Raiders playoff win over Cincinnati. The next week, the Bo Jackson-less Raiders got thrashed in a blizzard in Buffalo 51-3 to lose the AFC Championship.

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On 11/20/2020 at 1:55 PM, Strider said:

If the Bills, Dolphins, and Raiders being in the playoffs is your idea of a 'wet dream', you need to step up your game.

I can understand how you would forget the 1974-75 playoffs as the wild-card Bills weren't in it very long...getting smoked by Pittsburgh in the first round, while the Raiders won a classic thriller over the Dolphins.

But 1990-91 should be ingrained in your memory. The Bills beat the Dolphins and the Raiders in successive weeks. I know I'll always remember it. That was the year Bo Jackson got hurt in the Raiders playoff win over Cincinnati. The next week, the Bo Jackson-less Raiders got thrashed in a blizzard in Buffalo 51-3 to lose the AFC Championship.

Our first trip to the Super Bowl.  Cant forget that game in the snow.  Raiders had no shot.  That Buffalo team was ten times better than the team with OJ.  OJ was some player though.  If he had not made a train wreck of his life after football he would have been remembered in a much better light. The Rams should have beaten the Steelers in Super Bowl in 1975.  With Vince Ferragamo, they outplayed them.  Pittsburgh won that game on a 4th and a mile conversion TD pass, blown coverage  by Elmendorf.   Your Raiders were great when they had Ken Stabler.  Great player he was.  i get the Eagles and Browns on one channel at 1.  Another old NFL matchup.  Baltimore and Tennessee on the other channel.  I still think Baltimore wants this game more than the Steelers game on Thanksgiving.  That is the game of the Day and its after Turkey and red wine. Forge it.  Well, Il try.

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Paul, if you read this, why was Fitzpatrick in?   Did Tua get injured?  Never mind.  I found it.  Benched.  I am a bit shocked they did it. I would have more confidence in Fitz now as a pure passer in a comeback situation.  But he is likely rusty.  And he was an interception machine when in Buffalo.  Thats why we got rid of him. He was good until two minutes left and then he would kill you. You get your freebie next week vs the Jets.  

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They beat the spread, at least. AFC West Theory holds true again.

Raiders are 6-4. Division title out of reach...wild card is the more probable outcome. Law Vegas Stadium looks nice. A helluva lot better than that sandy bog patch in Oakland with the baseball diamond dirt in the middle of the field.

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10 hours ago, Strider said:

They beat the spread, at least. AFC West Theory holds true again.

Raiders are 6-4. Division title out of reach...wild card is the more probable outcome. Law Vegas Stadium looks nice. A helluva lot better than that sandy bog patch in Oakland with the baseball diamond dirt in the middle of the field.

I believe the Raiders make the playoffs and seal the deal by beating Miami at home in a few weeks.  They are on the rise for sure.  The Bills are only favored by 5 1/2 likely because Herbert the rookie comes in and somehow they are ranked 3rd in defense in the NFL, even though they always find a way to lose unless its the Jets, and speaking of covering, the Jets got a back door cover.  

Yes, the AFC West theory strikes again.  If the Raiders were not missing so many players on defense they would have won IMO.  So much for Bell running the ball for KC.  What a joke.

Go Rams tonight!!!!!  

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NFC L(EAST)

All 4 teams have 3 wins. All 4 play Seattle.  I agree with Dan Orlovsky that Giants are the best of the 4 BUT, SCHEDULE  is brutal for all but Dallas has easier schedule. If Giants can steal game in Seattle, who knows. 

AFC Wild Cards.  I looked at the schedule. I see the Ravens running the table after the Pittsburgh game.  Just see schedule.  I see Raiders winning 5 and finishing with 11 wins.  Tennessee 11 wins.  And Ravens win at least 11 and there are your wild cards.  Sorry Miami.  Miami has to go to KC and to Vegas. Forget about it.  And at Buffalo on January 3.  I guarantee if they are still alive in that game, Fitz will start. No way are they putting that rookie into the freezing cold.  Unless we get an Indian summer which has happened.  I do not know how they wil handle playoffs with 3 wild cards and two byes?  Leaves an odd number of teams.  Lets say for the sake of argument its KC and Pittsburgh get the byes.  Buffalo and Indy win division.  WC to Tenn, Raiders and Ravens?  Cleveland of course is also alive.  But I do not like their chances based on schedule. So if KC and Pittsburgh get the byes, how are they going to do it with 5 teams?

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Did anyone watch that Green Bay @ Indianapolis game yesterday? That was the most painful last two minutes of regulation I have seen in quite some time. Just brutal…if you were a Colts fan, it would have driven you to drink.

The situation: Colts have a three point lead over the Packers and have the ball with just over two minutes left. All they have to do is run the ball and make Green Bay spend their time outs and if they get a touchdown or field goal in the process, all the better. The game would be practically clinched in their favour. 

What happens is a bizarre festival of penalties (on both Green Bay and Indy) that keeps stopping the clock and allowing Green Bay to save their time outs. There were so many penalties, that Green Bay actually declined some just so Indy wouldn't get to keep replaying first down all the time. At one point, the Colts got five holding calls in a row. Even after the Colts went for it on fourth down and converted, the penalties kept coming, which ended up moving the Colts out of field goal range. Throw in some ill-advised pass plays and bad throws by Phillip Rivers, and it was ineptitude of Keystone Cops proportions. It was as if Indianapolis was trying to give the game to the Packers.

Finally, after what seemed like a half-hour of penalties and replays, the Colts finally had to punt and the Packers took over with 1:25 left and two of their timeouts. Naturally, they zipped down the field and kicked the tying field goal to send it into overtime.

The Colts did end up winning in OT, but still, that last drive of theirs at the end of regulation should go down in the Hall of Shame.

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I was in Ocala over the weekend, watching America's "Game of the Week," the Colts and Green Bay & I feel the refs really worked Green Bay--or rather the old Tuck Rule bit them in the ass when Rivers was clearly stripped of the ball and the Pack ran it back for what should've been the game ending TD, but whatever. 

My anger over that has passed. Tua comes back next week for what should be "Sunday lunch" when we play the Jets...

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On 11/24/2020 at 11:46 AM, paul carruthers said:

I was in Ocala over the weekend, watching America's "Game of the Week," the Colts and Green Bay & I feel the refs really worked Green Bay--or rather the old Tuck Rule bit them in the ass when Rivers was clearly stripped of the ball and the Pack ran it back for what should've been the game ending TD, but whatever. 

I gotta disagree. The refs worked the Colts far more than the Packers. All those holding calls on the Colts on that last drive in regulation while Green Bay holds were ignored.

As for that Rivers play, look at the replay...Rivers arm and hand are moving forward and you can even see Rivers fingers guiding the ball as the ball leaves his hand. Rivers clearly had control of the throw at the time of impact and the ball went forward.

Contrast that to yet another Tom Brady fumble that the refs missed in the Tampa Bay-Rams game Monday Night. Brady's arm got hit in the end zone just as he was beginning his throw but he did not have near the control of the ball and the throw that Rivers did. Just like in the Raider game in 2000, the refs bail out Brady and call it incomplete.

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6 hours ago, Strider said:

Shit. The only decent Thanksgiving day game gets postponed to Sunday because the Ravens all got covid.

So now we're stuck with a bunch of turkeys...every team playing today is 3-7.

LOL.  Yes but good Turkeys so far for me. I bet Houston.  Flat and with Bills and other parlays.  i took a 3 teamer on  Thanksgiving before I knew of the Baltimore postponement.  I have Houston -2 1/2, Washington +3 and Baltimore +4.  Bills are -5 1/2.  Took your Raiders -3 on another parlay

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What a fucking joke. Roger Goodell is a clown and he is turning the NFL into a clown show.

The NFL bends over backwards for the Patriots and the Ravens when they get hit with coronavirus but they throw Denver to the wolves? How is Denver supposed to play with no quarterback, the most important position on any NFL team?

The Saints made mincemeat of Tom Brady, a seasoned veteran. What are they going to do against whatever scrub they face tomorrow? The Saints basically get a freebie and an unfair advantage in the race for the #1 seed. The NFL's competitive integrity is a shambles...a sham. Las Vegas should take the game off the books.

I know one thing...the Denver vs. New Orleans game just became the most interesting game of the weekend. What is Denver going to do...Wildcat all game? Triple option plays? Play Von Miller at QB for a few plays? Sign Tim Tebow? John Elway?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30408624/sources-denver-broncos-qbs-ruled-ineligible-vs-new-orleans-saints

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What a fucking joke. Roger Goodell is a clown and he is turning the NFL into a clown show.

The NFL bends over backwards for the Patriots and the Ravens when they get hit with coronavirus but they throw Denver to the wolves? How is Denver supposed to play with no quarterback, the most important position on any NFL team?

The Saints made mincemeat of Tom Brady, a seasoned veteran. What are they going to do against whatever scrub they face tomorrow? The Saints basically get a freebie and an unfair advantage in the race for the #1 seed. The NFL's competitive integrity is a shambles...a sham. Las Vegas should take the game off the books.

I know one thing...the Denver vs. New Orleans game just became the most interesting game of the weekend. What is Denver going to do...Wildcat all game? Triple option plays? Play Von Miller at QB for a few plays? Sign Tim Tebow? John Elway?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30408624/sources-denver-broncos-qbs-ruled-ineligible-vs-new-orleans-saints

I was wondering why the line went from 6 to 15!!!!!  The biggest swing on a line I have seen in decades.  Ill read your article because i do not know what is going on?  The Bills up 17-6 just got a huge scare as Josh Allen bent his ankle the wrong way and Barcklay, the sack of shit, came in for one play and got murdered as expected.  Allen walked it off. Fromm, the rookie is not even dressed.   That is the  only thing Miami has over us   A 3nd QB.  BUT, the move back to Fitz, tells me they are "going for it".  At least a playoff spot of course.  Its going to come down to the Raiders and Browns and Dolphins for 2 Wild Cards. Assuming the Tennessee and Indy non division winner gets the first one?  Maybe no lock?

Just read it.  Yes Sean, they are going to fucking far.  So is fucking Cuomo with his Emmy awarded broadcasts.  He says "I want to see the Buffalo BIlls". Knowing the Jets and Giants are pure shit.  But what does the bastard do?  Not a single fucking fan allowed. The asshole. At least the Catholic Church beat hi with the help of the Supreme Court.  You take on God and you are going to lose every time

 

Sean, so get this.  I bet a 3 teamer on Thanksgiving Day.  Houston, Washington and Baltimore.  I am getting 4 points with Ravens.  So the damn game is postponed twice.  I am not sure if they are now going to pay me for the two teamer and push the Ravens game?  OR, if the parlay is still alive?  I would rather have the parlay alive abut I am not going to know until that game plays.  Another headache by shit for brains Cuomo.  So if he just allowed online gambling to go along with the LEGAL gaming now, I would not have to drive 35 fucking miles to grease the Indians every week

After running for TD Josh Allen gets a penalty for spinning the football in celebration!!!!!!!  What a crock of shit

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On 11/28/2020 at 11:16 PM, Strider said:

What a fucking joke. Roger Goodell is a clown and he is turning the NFL into a clown show.

The NFL bends over backwards for the Patriots and the Ravens when they get hit with coronavirus but they throw Denver to the wolves? How is Denver supposed to play with no quarterback, the most important position on any NFL team?

The Saints made mincemeat of Tom Brady, a seasoned veteran. What are they going to do against whatever scrub they face tomorrow? The Saints basically get a freebie and an unfair advantage in the race for the #1 seed. The NFL's competitive integrity is a shambles...a sham. Las Vegas should take the game off the books.

I know one thing...the Denver vs. New Orleans game just became the most interesting game of the weekend. What is Denver going to do...Wildcat all game? Triple option plays? Play Von Miller at QB for a few plays? Sign Tim Tebow? John Elway?

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30408624/sources-denver-broncos-qbs-ruled-ineligible-vs-new-orleans-saints

Well it was still a stretch to call the Denver game the "game of the week" in any week of the NFL season. They got exactly what you would expect.  An ass whipping.  New Orleans defense has beeb lights out anyway and then they play a team with a running back playing QB?  Wow. Like I said, the point spread went up 11.  Never have I seen that. Now why did the Ravens go from plus 4 to plus 10 vs Pittsburgh? Someone has to be out. I am praying my 3 team parlay is already graded?  IE, that they canceled out the game that was to have been played on Thanksgiving night?  I wont go to the Sportsbook until Wednesday to make sure. Hoping of course that Baltimore covers or better?  Pittsburgh then has a home game vs the Football .Team that sure looked good in throttling the Cowpokes.  Could be a major trap for Pittsburgh before coming to Orchard Park to play my Bills.  My other team, the Rams, why is it they always play bad vs SF?  They let them drive from their 20 to get the winning FG with less than 2 minutes left. Not a killer. Even if Seattle takes care of Phily as expected tonight. But Seattle has one thing going for them. They get to play all of the teams in the NFC LEAST. 

OMG!!!  Lamar is OUT!!!!  COVID.  😢

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The AFC East standings looks like a time capsule from the early 90s.  Bills in first, Miami in second! NE 3rd.  Jets 4th.  Wild  card race is between Indy, Cleveland, Miami, Baltimore  and Raiders.  Right now the Raiders are on the outside looking in.  But that is going to change in my  opinion.  Raiders are @Jets, vs Colts, vs Chargers, vs Dolphins, @Bronco's.    Cleveland @Titans, vs  Ravens, @ Giants (old 60s rivalry), @ Jets, vs Steelers (will Pittsburgh play starters?).  Indy  @Texans , @ Raiders, vs Texans, @ Steelers, vs Jaguars.  (outside of Jax, brutal).  Miami vs Bengals (last gimme).  vs Chiefs, vs NE, @ Raiders , @ Bills.  Baltimore,  vs Cowboys (lock), @ Browns, vs Jax, vs Giants and @ Bengals. 

Assuming Baltimore gets Lamar back after his Covid bout, they likely run the table after the Pittsburgh game?  So I will give them one WC.  So 2 more?  I like the Raiders to get one based off strength of schedule, if Sunday's game was an anomaly?  And based on how good they have played I think it was.  So that leaves Miami, Cleveland and Indy.  I think Indy might be done after yesterday.  And they looked really god until that. The schedule is brutal.  IMO, it comes down to Miami and Cleveland.  And to me, its a toss up. Both teams have tough games.  I think Miami has a slightly tougher schedule?  Cleveland vs Giants could be huge for the Browns?  They should beat the Jets.  The last game vs the Steelers I can see Pittsburgh resting its starters depending on situation?  I also can se the Bills doing the same unless Miami is till in the division race?  Miami has games at KC and at Raiders.  The game vs NE could be huge?  Its going to be a tough race.  I am hoping Covid does not decide it.

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Note:  This weeks Denver at KC game DOES NOT QUALIFY AS AN AFC WEST THEORY GAME.   Its only the home team getting points.  

The Bills and 49ers Monday night game has been moved to the desert in Arizona.  The scene of the crime where we got burned on that Hail Mary.  I am hoping we do not see one in this game and I am not really afraid of Cedrick Mullins.  Is that his name?  Miami gets there last "easy game: on their dick schedule .  I guess you never know with Cincy even without Burrows as they took the Giants to the wire.  A Giants team that is playing pretty good on both sides of the ball lately.  

Your Raiders Sean are the biggest road favorite they have been in 18 years.  -7.5 vs the Jets.  I wonder if the Jets are really this bad or are they looking over their shoulder at Jacksonville to make sure they land Trevor Lawrence from Clemson as the number one pick.   Its going  to be bye bye for Darnold and someone might be willing to take a chance on him?  At least as a backup.  There are teams that could use him. Maybe the Chicago Bears?   

So no Lamar Jackson?  How can Baltimore win without him in this game?   After this game, the Ravens should run the table. Cowboys, Browns, Jags, Giants and Bengals.  I mean, you never know with the Browns or Giants. But Cleveland has not faired well vs Baltimore. I am kind of looking forward to that Browns vs Giants game.  Its a real memory game. Growing up in the 60s that was the best matchup, as the Browns were the best team in football much of the time. Fran Tarkenton was the QB of the Giants before going to Minnesota.  The game was different then. Much more running the football than today

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Can you believe we have an NFL game on a Wednesday afternoon!!  Ill take the 10 points with RGIII.   But I am not playing this one. I want to the Casino Sportsbook yesterday to cash my tikets and throw down for this week.    Of course I took my Bills.  Who thought they would be favored at SF?  Or should I say back in the desert where the stinking Hail Mary went down.  So much for the Cardinals now.  Ill sign their death warrants now.  SF scares me a bit without Jimmy G.  They have some guys back.  Like that running back that took care of the Pats.  The Rams just have trouble with them.  I took the Rams on 3 parlays over Arizona and then the game was taken off the board.  Likely some heavy hitters in Vegas?  I wanted to take the Football Team with the 10 but it was not on the board.  This not only could be a trap game for Pittsburgh, but Washington was impressive on Turkey day.  I like Houston just a little.  Indy really put up a stinker. Took the Miami vs Cincy game under. And the Atlanta vs NO game under.  Atlanta only plus 3 vs a team that is on fire. Talk about respect

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