MojoZoso Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 This upgrade is mindblowing. It's so good I featured it on my podcast, Heart of Markness. I also have a link to the complete show on my site, http://www.heartofmarkness.com/led-zeppelin-vienna-1973/ It's just incredible the job Nite Owl did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm2551 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I don't think there was a better intro. Even TSRTS is arguably not greater than this. Perfect emotive playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaweed gate Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 12 hours ago, MojoZoso said: I also have a link to the complete show on my site, http://www.heartofmarkness.com/led-zeppelin-vienna-1973/ It's just incredible the job Nite Owl did. Thank you MojoZoso for the link! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 13 hours ago, MojoZoso said: This upgrade is mindblowing. It's so good I featured it on my podcast, Heart of Markness. It certainly is a fantastic version of the show. One thing I am surprised you did not mention in your podcast is the most unique and amazing moment in the whole show - the one of kind improvised intro to Heartbreaker. In my view it is one of the coolest live Zeppelin moments. Here they are improvising a riff to introduce one of the greatest rock riffs ever, and their one time throwaway riff intro is better than the best riffs that most other bands could ever come up with. How fortunate that something so unique was captured in such quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgeholder Still Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 The recent Japan '71 releases are huge, but this has a significance all it's own. 'Cause this is the shit. This stretch, March/April '73, finds the band realizing it's potential musically. It's the last stop for this underground band before utilizing the power of the media to present themselves as the earth shaker they had become. This is a snapshot of the band playing to and for themselves, and also proving to themselves they were ready to go public. They were killing it, they knew it, and there was only one place left to go. Mainstream recognition and celebrity. Apart from some soundboard excepts, this music has only been available to listeners with bootleg ears. This will serve well until a soundboard or multi-track of a complete show emerges from this this epic stretch of Zeppelin history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Vienna '73 has always been the bee's knees but this upgrade is SUPERSONIC! Supersonic just happens to be the word I use to describe most of the band's gigs of 1973. Both in intent and sound, they were going for sleek maximum impact. That "Dazed and Confused"...hoo-boy, it's hair-raising! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluribus Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Really cool that Nite Owl has been doing these new matrices. Personally, I’m not a fan of these, as I’ve yet to hear one of these mixes that doesn’t suffer from the same/inevitable drift across sources, which results in Page sounding like he has an 80s chorus pedal effect on his guitar. This Vienna matrix is no different, and the soundboard sections here are especially chorusy. Same goes for the Blueberry Hill matrix, Texas Pop, and Fillmore 69. I get the fascination with doing matrix versions, but artifacts are artifacts. So, it ends up being distracting, especially knowing so many of these shows so well. For new fans of this show via this matrix, party on by all means. Personally, for the Vienna show, I’d recommend the Eat a Peach audience mix, or the Graf Zeppelin Audience Version “A” CD + soundboard CD from that release. I think those both sound much better, and are the definitive versions of the show. Anyway, not intending to be a drag to the enthusiasm here. It’s awesome that there are so many people just discovering this show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreBlues Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 Oh my. Could i please have the link. Thank you kindly in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm2551 Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 7 hours ago, NorthShoreBlues said: Oh my. Could i please have the link. Thank you kindly in advance I'll PM you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 On 4/24/2020 at 7:55 PM, pluribus said: Really cool that Nite Owl has been doing these new matrices. Personally, I’m not a fan of these, as I’ve yet to hear one of these mixes that doesn’t suffer from the same/inevitable drift across sources, which results in Page sounding like he has an 80s chorus pedal effect on his guitar. This Vienna matrix is no different, and the soundboard sections here are especially chorusy. Same goes for the Blueberry Hill matrix, Texas Pop, and Fillmore 69. I get the fascination with doing matrix versions, but artifacts are artifacts. So, it ends up being distracting, especially knowing so many of these shows so well. For new fans of this show via this matrix, party on by all means. Personally, for the Vienna show, I’d recommend the Eat a Peach audience mix, or the Graf Zeppelin Audience Version “A” CD + soundboard CD from that release. I think those both sound much better, and are the definitive versions of the show. Anyway, not intending to be a drag to the enthusiasm here. It’s awesome that there are so many people just discovering this show. I'm not hearing that effect on the source that CS posted on YouTube. The 3.21.75 Seattle matrix was way worse and more noticeable to my ears. But this Vienna matrix sounds fine and dandy, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluribus Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, Strider said: I'm not hearing that effect on the source that CS posted on YouTube. The 3.21.75 Seattle matrix was way worse and more noticeable to my ears. But this Vienna matrix sounds fine and dandy, in my opinion. You can hear it at the beginning of Stairway to Heaven, Heartbreaker, and other sections where the soundboard is predominantly used. The tape speeds can never fully match up, which is why it comes and goes throughout the recording, and you get comb filtering. It's the sound of the sources coming in and out of sync, like a chorus effect where the original signal is paired with a slightly delayed version of the signal, getting that chime and dissonance. This is unavoidable when doing a matrix. It isn't usually as noticeable when mixing audience sources that were taped further away, although the issue remains that you've now doubled the crowd noise. Where that chorus effect becomes most noticeable is when you start mixing soundboards or close-mic'd audience recordings, and then layer distant audience sources behind them. Comb-filtering, swishing in the cymbals, the "metal can" effect around the sound in general, and that chorusing sound. Four Blocks In the Snow has the same thing going on. As if Page had just purchased a chorus pedal for that performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Andrews Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Would you please send me as link as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobbs Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 The 73' European Tour was Jimmy's zenith. His playing at this show is phenomenal with perhaps the best D&C ever. Prince said Page played in three dimensions, at this show he included the fourth as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pies de Plomo Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 Hi guys! New to the forum. I used to have lots Zepp boots. Mailny Empress (was their fan then) Lost it all one day. Looking for to restart my collection. This seems a good place. Can I have a link? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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