A new member singling out an older member? Where I have seen this movie before? Methinks we have a re-tread in our midst. Quick, don't give away the ending.

Yeah. The people who post here are fans of Led Zeppelin. Some are bigger fans than others, but we're all here because we love the music. Led Zeppelin is not my #1 favorite band, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate what the four of them brought to the table musically. However, that doesn't mean I think the four of them were the greatest ever to do what they did. I don't even think the members of the band that are my favorite are the greatest ever at what they did. I can love, respect, and admire their work while still being objective about the people who performed it.

What's wrong with appreciating other guitarists? Is Jimmy Page the only guitarist people here are supposed to like and appreciate? My musical tastes run far beyond just Led Zeppelin.

You're a new member, you have one post to your name, yet you've noticed throughout the entire forum, someone else's posting style? And noticed it to enough of a degree to make comment about it? Uh-huh. Heard that story before. To get back on topic, Jimmy Page solidly belongs in the Top 5 of all-time greatest guitarists. I wouldn't put him toward the bottom of the Top 10, but I wouldn't put him near the top. For my money, Jimi Hendrix, Duane Allman, Stevie Ray Vaughan and Joe Walsh were better, but that's entirely my opinion.

Different kinds of nostalgia, though.

Kashmir - Led Zeppelin

Right, because not only are you going to find "drunken rednecks" in NYC, it's also going to magically become 1977 again. Concert crowds nowadays, at least in my experience, are a bit more civilized than they used to be.

Well, there's a difference between being knighted, which is a KBE, and the MBE/OBE that you ask about in the poll question. I do think they should get OBE's for their contributions to music, but I can't speak as to whether they should be knighted or not. I don't know the protocol for that, or what the requirements would be and if they fulfill any of them.

When The Levee Breaks - Led Zeppelin

Led Zeppelin and KISS? Ooh Lord.

I applaud Robert Plant for wanting to achieve success based on what he can bring to the table, not because he was front man for one of the biggest bands of all time. He easily could have spent the last 30 years doing nothing but Led Zeppelin retreads, not growing artistically, and basically playing a caricature of himself for the rest of his life. He chose not to do that, and that's a great, great thing. We wouldn't have gotten Raising Sand otherwise, for example.

I Knew You When - Billy Joe Royal

I Just Wanna Stop - Gino Vannelli

Rather decent for this time of year, I must say. It's only 48° outside, which is warm-ish for this time of year, and we've thankfully not gotten any of the stuff represented in my avatar. Yet. I'm sure it's coming, but I hope it doesn't. Just a slight dusting on Christmas Eve, and then it can all melt away by noon on Christmas day.

Kashmir - Led Zeppelin

We usually have Reese's Peanut Butter Cups (the miniature ones, but not the super-tiny ones you can buy now), Kit-Kats, that big variety bag of Hershey's chocolate, and some Nerds/SweetTarts so it's not all chocolate.

Very, very nice Sam! I love the new LZ.com theme. Much better than the Mothership theme from the previous version of the software.

I don't disagree. However, how many other major multinational corporations have used or are currently using, Chinese sweatshop labor? Also, to say that Apple hasn't been "taken to task" over it is a bit extreme. They have. They don't own Foxconn though, they never did. As a matter of interest, I was reading an article shortly after Jobs died about the suicide rate of workers at sweatshops in China, and Foxconn, the factory that Apple used, was rated as having the lowest. That's neither here nor there, but does show that working conditions at their factory can't be as Dickensian as Apple detractors would like to have you think.

Granted Apple's stock options are better than most company's, but when Steve Jobs came back as CEO in 1997, he took an annual salary of $1. That's it. $1 a year for the rest of his life, which was 14 years. So in total, he made $14 in salary working at Apple. He had about $2 billion dollars in stock, but comparing him to other CEOs of huge, multimillion dollar or multibillion dollar companies isn't right. They fired him, and when the company went down the shitter in his absence, they hired him back. He could have told them to eff off, but thankfully he didn't. He and Steve Wozniak started Apple Computers in his garage in 1977. Between him, Wozniak, Bill Gates and about two other people, you don't have a computer with which to do anything, much less complain about people complaining. So Jobs isn't quite like all the CEOs and Wall Street fat-cats the Occupy Wall Street crowd is railing against, and it has less to do with the fact Apple makes nice gadgets than you think.

You don't play a team in your own division in the first round. Let's say for example, the Wild Card was the Minnesota Twins. As they are in the same division as the Detroit Tigers, they would not play each other. Same would be true of the Angels winning the Wild Card - they're in the same division as the Texas Rangers. You could only conceivably play a divisional opponent in the LCS.

No particular order: Jack Bruce John Entwhistle Geddy Lee John Paul Jones

One of the best celebrity commencement addresses I've heard. What's hysterical is that neither him, nor Bill Gates, graduated college. That's not to say that a college education is worthless, just that the notion you absolutely have to have one to be successful is not always true. I was a PC user for many years, not because I didn't like Apple, but because I couldn't afford a Macbook. This May, I was finally able to get one, and it was one of the smartest business investments I've ever made, not just personal. Wozniak was the brains behind the engineering of Apple, but Jobs was the brains behind the marketing, and that's just as important. It doesn't matter how great a product you have if you can't get anyone to buy it. I'm typing this on my Macbook, listening to my iPod, and looking at a potential iPad purchase. To say that Jobs's innovation, genius, and passion has not influenced my life in some small way, would be wrong. RIP, sir. May you find your place amongst the stars where you belong.

Well, what do we think? Probably sacrilegious to say so, but I prefer it over On The Run, which I thought while sounding good on the record, never had that *oomph* live. Now this.....this has *oomph*. I can appreciate their desire to do new things, and try out new technologies, but I've always thought On The Run was the weakest part of The Dark Side of the Moon (relative to everything else on the record), and had this been put in its place.....well, I guess it's a lot of what-ifs now. I do thank the boys in the band for making this available to us all these years later.

Happy Birthday!!

Everything I've heard from that tour, which admittedly isn't as much as most of you, is pretty meh. I love Listen To This, Eddie, but that's the only really good boot from that tour that I have. There were so many things going on with the band at that time, it's a wonder they finished the tour in one piece. I know rock stars are allowed ridiculous self-indulgences, and that as one of the premier guitarists of the decade, Jimmy Page had a pretty long rope.......but the heroin destroyed his ability to play. The Jimmy Page of 1973 is not the Jimmy Page on stage in 1977, or at Knebworth, or in 1980. Just horrid. He plays better now than he did then, but it still doesn't hold a candle to even the Page at Earls Court in 1975. Let that be a lesson, kiddos.