Zimmerman Charged with Murder in the 2nd Degree. Justice!

[Rock Historian]

^That's one highly intelligent human being-right there.

It's all free. Just like bankrupt Detroit.

[planted]

If Trayvon Martin was killed in Afghanistan, President Obama would not even know who he was.

President Obama handled this terribly.

Grade : F.

[SuperDave]

THIS is absolutely spot on.

O'Reilly couldn't have been better. He covered everything and knows what is wrong with the black community. Now if they could only do something about it with the Hollywood and rap industry and the trash civil rights leaders like Sharpton and Jackson, who just ignore all this like Chicago and Detroit and just play everything as a race issue, just to get the TV cameras there. Bill just nailed it.

It would be smart for Obama to address these issues and push to correct them, but he ignores them just like the others.

[planted]

O'Reilly couldn't have been better. He covered everything and knows what is wrong with the black community. Now if they could only do something about it with the Hollywood and rap industry and the trash civil rights leaders like Sharpton and Jackson, who just ignore all this like Chicago and Detroit and just play everything as a race issue, just to get the TV cameras there. Bill just nailed it.

It would be smart for Obama to address these issues and push to correct them, but he ignores them just like the others.

[Rock Historian]

O'Reilly couldn't have been better. He covered everything and knows what is wrong with the black community. Now if they could only do something about it with the Hollywood and rap industry and the trash civil rights leaders like Sharpton and Jackson, who just ignore all this like Chicago and Detroit and just play everything as a race issue, just to get the TV cameras there. Bill just nailed it.

It would be smart for Obama to address these issues and push to correct them, but he ignores them just like the others.

I've stated my thoughts loud and clear on SAJ's thread closely related to this (now) discussion. Some folks like to throw the word "racist" around when it suits them because they have no other defense or argument to stand by. It's just an easy word to use. You're right Dave, Obama's clearly no better than the others. If not him then who will step up and be a leader for the black community. I'd love to hear him address the black on black crime that is an overwhelming percentage of crimes in cities throughout. Bill O'Riley couldn't have been more accurate with his statistics, facts and overall speech. Facts are facts and the truth is the truth...he spoke it. Even if it hurt some feelings.

[Disco Duck]

O'Reilly couldn't have been better. He covered everything and knows what is wrong with the black community. Now if they could only do something about it with the Hollywood and rap industry and the trash civil rights leaders like Sharpton and Jackson, who just ignore all this like Chicago and Detroit and just play everything as a race issue, just to get the TV cameras there. Bill just nailed it.

It would be smart for Obama to address these issues and push to correct them, but he ignores them just like the others.

O'Reilly is an ignorant tool throwing red meat to his audience. I'm disappointed that so many posters here gobble it up. The problems he mentioned are real: gun violence, teen pregnancy, and a trashy popular culture. However, his analysis of these problems is just wrong. He neglected to mention that teen pregnancy is part of broader social trend among all Americans. Fifty years ago most white American women who gave birth out of wedlock put their babies up for adoption. Today most white American women who give birth out of wedlock keep their babies.

Trashy popular culture isn't unique to African-Americans either. Jersey Shore anyone? Since this site is dedicated to Led Zeppelin, I would be remiss in not pointing out that some of their lyrics were trashy. What do you think Robert Plant meant when he sang, "I wanna give you every inch of my love"? I dislike most rap and hiphop, but is it any worse than some of the raunchier entertianment that features white performers?

[TypeO]

O'Reilly is an ignorant tool throwing red meat to his audience. I'm disappointed that so many posters here gobble it up. The problems he mentioned are real: gun violence, teen pregnancy, and a trashy popular culture. However, his analysis of these problems is just wrong. He neglected to mention that teen pregnancy is part of broader social trend among all Americans. Fifty years ago most white American women who gave birth out of wedlock put their babies up for adoption. Today most white American women who give birth out of wedlock keep their babies.

Trashy popular culture isn't unique to African-Americans either. Jersey Shore anyone? Since this site is dedicated to Led Zeppelin, I would be remiss in not pointing out that some of their lyrics were trashy. What do you think Robert Plant meant when he sang, "I wanna give you every inch of my love"? I dislike most rap and hiphop, but is it any worse than some of the raunchier entertianment that features white performers?

And THERE is your answer.

Holy shit, that is absolutely stunning.

That's why there can't be an honest dialog between Black and White.

Because so many Black people simply cannot bear to hear the truth from a White person without becoming defensive.

You are literally so inexorably bonded to the liberal/racial mold you have conformed to that you've lost a particular degree of objectivity.

If I had posted only the text of O'Reilly's comments and attributed them to Cornel West or Michael Eric Dyson, you wouldn't have had that response.

Instead, your internal firewall's Bill O'Reilly = Conservative = BAD plug-in immediately set off the sirens and flashing lights inside you head, short-circuiting any further reasoning directly to default, knee-jerk responses.

You actually admit his points were true, and then in the same breath begin deflecting back onto White people.

You literally, in so many words, said, "yeah, but so do White people - so THERE!"

I'm having trouble properly communicating the combination of incredulity and vindication that sweeps over me each time I re-read your response.

Seriously, as I said in my earlier post about how you can't make this shit up, if I had predicted you would come back with such a glaringly obvious confirmation of what I had posted, I'd have been mocked for assuming such a base cliché.

Even though there's nothing more to add to what you've already confirmed through your own words, I have to ask anyway...

What does the fact that White people also have babies out of wedlock and also have "trashy culture" have to do with the topic that O'Reilly discussed - specifically, what the Black community needs to do to begin turning around the crime statistics of an enormously disproportionate amount of young, Black males who commit such a large percentage of violent crime?

Defense mechanisms engage in 3... 2... 1...

[TypeO]

I dislike most rap and hiphop, but is it any worse than some of the raunchier entertianment that features white performers?

And since you mention it, actually, YES.

It is worse on a quantitative scale.

Oh, there are some fringe acts that could be considered even roughly approximate in the level of overall debasement.

Most of it would be death and black metal, and even then, a lot of that is aimed at mockery of religion and society.

And they certainly aren't mainstream.

But they are only a fraction of the HipHop culture that broadly and continuously glorifies violence, drugs, crime, misogyny, homophobia and racism.

So yeah.

It is worse.

A lot worse.

And there's a whole lot more of it.

And it's mainstreamed.

And I like Rap and HipHop.

But I'm also honest with myself about it.

[SteveAJones]

He neglected to mention that teen pregnancy is part of broader social trend among all Americans.

Teen pregnancy in the United Socialist States of America has declined nearly 40% over the past twenty years. However, he could've pointed out the black teen pregnancy rate is still nearly three times that of non-Hispanic whites.

For young women age 15-19, black teens are most likely to become pregnant (134 per 1,000 women). Slightly lower rates occur among Hispanics (131 per 1,000) followed by non-Hispanic whites (48 per 1,000).

[JP78]

birth control is good and if that doesn't work abortion is preferable if one is a teenager. especially if they haven't graduated from high school yet.

[Sagittarius Rising]

Teen pregnancy in the United Socialist States of America has declined nearly 40% over the past twenty years. However, he could've pointed out the black teen pregnancy rate is still nearly three times that of non-Hispanic whites.

For young women age 15-19, black teens are most likely to become pregnant (134 per 1,000 women). Slightly lower rates occur among Hispanics (131 per 1,000) followed by non-Hispanic whites (48 per 1,000).

Of course Steve, that makes sense for one simple reason, access to birth control and cultural reasons. Urban blacks do not have the access to birth control and abortions like their white counterparts and among hispanics, both birth control and abortion are taboo.

[Sagittarius Rising]

And since you mention it, actually, YES.

It is worse on a quantitative scale.

Oh, there are some fringe acts that could be considered even roughly approximate in the level of overall debasement.

Most of it would be death and black metal, and even then, a lot of that is aimed at mockery of religion and society.

And they certainly aren't mainstream.

But they are only a fraction of the HipHop culture that broadly and continuously glorifies violence, drugs, crime, misogyny, homophobia and racism.

So yeah.

It is worse.

A lot worse.

And there's a whole lot more of it.

And it's mainstreamed.

And I like Rap and HipHop.

But I'm also honest with myself about it.

I agree with you on this one. I too am a fan of hip hop / rap but the vast majority is exactly like you said. Bill Maher said the hip hop artists are just being honest whereas the white guys are full of shit singing about love and being with their true love, all the while banging 20 pre-teens a night after the gig. He may be right but I still don't want to hear about it and I think it just makes the whole "music culture" worse by presenting such behavior as acceptable.

[Sagittarius Rising]

And THERE is your answer.

Holy shit, that is absolutely stunning.

That's why there can't be an honest dialog between Black and White.

Because so many Black people simply cannot bear to hear the truth from a White person without becoming defensive.

You are literally so inexorably bonded to the liberal/racial mold you have conformed to that you've lost a particular degree of objectivity.

If I had posted only the text of O'Reilly's comments and attributed them to Cornel West or Michael Eric Dyson, you wouldn't have had that response.

Instead, your internal firewall's Bill O'Reilly = Conservative = BAD plug-in immediately set off the sirens and flashing lights inside you head, short-circuiting any further reasoning directly to default, knee-jerk responses.

You actually admit his points were true, and then in the same breath begin deflecting back onto White people.

You literally, in so many words, said, "yeah, but so do White people - so THERE!"

I'm having trouble properly communicating the combination of incredulity and vindication that sweeps over me each time I re-read your response.

Seriously, as I said in my earlier post about how you can't make this shit up, if I had predicted you would come back with such a glaringly obvious confirmation of what I had posted, I'd have been mocked for assuming such a base cliché.

Even though there's nothing more to add to what you've already confirmed through your own words, I have to ask anyway...

What does the fact that White people also have babies out of wedlock and also have "trashy culture" have to do with the topic that O'Reilly discussed - specifically, what the Black community needs to do to begin turning around the crime statistics of an enormously disproportionate amount of young, Black males who commit such a large percentage of violent crime?

Defense mechanisms engage in 3... 2... 1...

I get what you are saying TypeO but I don't think you get what Disco means. I think what he is trying to say is this:

Say you have never met me but have seen me around in stores and know I live in a more affluent neighborhood than your working class neighborhood. I come up to you one day and say, "Hey buddy, your kid is a snot nosed little asshole juvenile delinquent and causes trouble in my neighborhood, keep your kid outta my block...oh, and fuck you too since you raised the little shit stain." You would probably not be too happy with me even if the statement were 100% true, why? Because it is your family, me, an outsider, an affluent outsider to boot has no frame of reference to your life. Here I am living the good life while you are slaving away to feed your family. Now say your brother comes up to you and says the exact same thing I did, you probably would not be too happy but you would listen and most likely talk to your kid and get to the bottom of the problem.

That is what black Americans feel like but much, much worse. I know you hate it when I bring up the 300 years of slavery and the 100 years of Jim Crow followed by ongoing racism but it is a fact. We as white people cannot just say, "Hey dude, sorry for all that shit, and sorry you are still discriminated against but hey, it's getting better...Now get your shit together!!!" That attitude is not going to fly and as a result, this is what we get.

We as whites owe it not only to the minority races in this country but also to ourselves to be better than that and to understand when a dog has been beat, it just ain't gonna make nice as soon as you stop. You have to earn the trust and respect, it is not a given. And yes, personally I do give minorities much more latitude than I would a white person in certain situations and the reason is both history and opportunity. I know as a white man in America I was born on the one yard line. Sure I had to work and work hard for what I have but I had that opportunity and accessibility. When I went on job interviews people smiled when I walked through the door, I have never had a problem securing decent employment. When I was young and I got in trouble I always got a pass by johnny law, my black friends always went to jail for the same things I did.

I guess what I am trying to say is I try to see things from the other side and thus act accordingly. To be honest, if I were black, I would not be happy at all and would have left the USA as soon as I turned 18. Just my opinion but I have just seen way too much and thus empathize.

[mstork]

Of course Steve, that makes sense for one simple reason, access to birth control and cultural reasons. Urban blacks do not have the access to birth control and abortions like their white counterparts and among hispanics, both birth control and abortion are taboo.

Is it really that hard to find/pay for rubbers? Seems to me they're given out free in clinics all over the place.

[Rock Historian]

Is it really that hard to find/pay for rubbers? Seems to me they're given out free in clinics all over the place.

Thank You!!

Sounds like another poor excuse to me. In most cases it's fair to say that it has much more to do with a person or persons "mentality" than a lack of available resources.

[TypeO]

I get what you are saying TypeO but I don't think you get what Disco means. I think what he is trying to say is this:

Say you have never met me but have seen me around in stores and know I live in a more affluent neighborhood than your working class neighborhood. I come up to you one day and say, "Hey buddy, your kid is a snot nosed little asshole juvenile delinquent and causes trouble in my neighborhood, keep your kid outta my block...oh, and fuck you too since you raised the little shit stain." You would probably not be too happy with me even if the statement were 100% true, why? Because it is your family, me, an outsider, an affluent outsider to boot has no frame of reference to your life. Here I am living the good life while you are slaving away to feed your family. Now say your brother comes up to you and says the exact same thing I did, you probably would not be too happy but you would listen and most likely talk to your kid and get to the bottom of the problem.

That is what black Americans feel like but much, much worse. I know you hate it when I bring up the 300 years of slavery and the 100 years of Jim Crow followed by ongoing racism but it is a fact. We as white people cannot just say, "Hey dude, sorry for all that shit, and sorry you are still discriminated against but hey, it's getting better...Now get your shit together!!!" That attitude is not going to fly and as a result, this is what we get.

We as whites owe it not only to the minority races in this country but also to ourselves to be better than that and to understand when a dog has been beat, it just ain't gonna make nice as soon as you stop. You have to earn the trust and respect, it is not a given. And yes, personally I do give minorities much more latitude than I would a white person in certain situations and the reason is both history and opportunity. I know as a white man in America I was born on the one yard line. Sure I had to work and work hard for what I have but I had that opportunity and accessibility. When I went on job interviews people smiled when I walked through the door, I have never had a problem securing decent employment. When I was young and I got in trouble I always got a pass by johnny law, my black friends always went to jail for the same things I did.

I guess what I am trying to say is I try to see things from the other side and thus act accordingly. To be honest, if I were black, I would not be happy at all and would have left the USA as soon as I turned 18. Just my opinion but I have just seen way too much and thus empathize.

But the point is, what I said earlier and what was in the O'Reilly video wasn't "Hey buddy, your kid is a snot nosed little asshole juvenile delinquent and causes trouble in my neighborhood, keep your kid outta my block...oh, and fuck you too since you raised the little shit stain."

It was simple, honest straight talk that is what's necessary to have the "conversations" on race relations the country needs.

But that simple, honest straight talk goes through the Privileged White Cracker filter that many African-Americans refuse to disable from their operating system, and it ends up sounding like, "Hey buddy, your kid is a snot nosed little asshole juvenile delinquent and causes trouble in my neighborhood, keep your kid outta my block...oh, and fuck you too since you raised the little shit stain" to them.

And that is simply Not. My. Fucking. Fault.

Just like the addict has to suck it up and recognize he's a mess when the intervention kicks in.

I'm not sure you realize the person I am.

My wife is Black.

My 3 kids are Black.

And yes, technically they are mixed, but what I completely and clearly understand is that if they are stopped by police, or filling out a job application, they are fucking Black.

And my wife isn't some bourgie, spoiled BAP, with a taste for white boys, either.

She grew up with a single mother, starting in the projects.

She votes Democratic.

And we had a falling out on election night 2008, because she couldn't understand why I couldn't put politics aside and just be happy a Black man was elected President.

I am one of the most racially-aware white people you could imagine.

When so many white people complain about Black History Month and say stupid shit like, "If there was a White History Month, that would be racist!", I understand that every month for the last 400 fucking years was White History Month.

People used to say to me, "you never told me your wife/girlfriend was Black!", and I would say, "why would I?"

I'm a hell of a lot more understanding of Black culture and the Black Community than the vast majority of White people in this country.

What I'm NOT, is an apologist.

History was a motherfucker.

But wallowing in it isn't going to get these young Black males off the streets, get them an education, and get them careers.

The Black Community has to fix itself.

And all those things O'Reilly said are dead-on, nail-on-the-head, accurate and true.

Bitching about the fact that O'Reilly said it is the same stubborn bullshit that has people screaming Justice For Trayvon.

Black people should be pissed off that it took O'Reilly to finally say something real, instead of more placating, victimized bullshit from most Black "leaders" starting at Obama and going down the line.

Black people should be screaming at Jay-Z and Lil Wayne to stop glorifying the thug life, and cashing in on young black lives to sell fucking records.

THAT would be Justice For Trayvon.

THAT would have more of an impact at preventing the next Trayvon from dying.

Just yesterday, a 20-something black male who, as it turned out, was wanted for murder in the next county, showed up at a probation office here and shot a female probation officer.

He ended up getting shot to death by police.

A local radio talk show host made a comment to the effect of he was glad he was dead.

And then this stupid motherfucker -

wrote the following on the talk show host's Facebook page -

"If i see u in public any were im slap da shyt out u on air bitch ass craccer...i dnt give a fucc bout no police...g.b.i.f.b.i. whoever dey can get it to."

So he was arrested and charged with making threats.

So, big surprise, what do you think practically every single Black person responded with?

You got it.

What a bunch of bullshit that was to arrest him.

The talk show host shouldn't have said that about that guy who was killed.

This is the same bullshit when there's crime and nobody cooperates with Police because snitches get stitches.

This is the same bullshit when a young black male participates in class and gets good grades, he's ridiculed for acting white.

My son is going through that shit right now.

And it's infuriating.

So sorry, I'm not going to sit back and remain quiet when it's QUOTE time to have real discussions about race relations, and all they want to talk about is the past.

I'm not interested in parsing through the individual granules of our nation's history.

I get it.

Right now, it's time to talk about the present and the future.

Again, many white people WANT Black people to become successful, productive members of society.

The people who DON'T want that are the establishment Democratic Party who count on broken black families raised by single mothers dependent on the Government.

THOSE are the votes they can count on come hell or high water.

Should those single mothers get married, create a stable, 2-parent home with a male role model to help raise and teach young black males how to be a man, they would have less and less need for government assistance, and actually start becoming self-sufficient.

And that's the votes the establishment Democratic Party CAN'T count on, because suddenly, they don't NEED all the handouts anymore.

Why do you think immigration is the new hot-button issue?

Because there's a whole new crop of votes they can count on.

Guaranteed votes for the guys who made it legal for them to be here and start getting all this free shit.

This tangent has been identified, so this is a good place to stop.

[TypeO]

That is what black Americans feel like but much, much worse. I know you hate it when I bring up the 300 years of slavery and the 100 years of Jim Crow followed by ongoing racism but it is a fact. We as white people cannot just say, "Hey dude, sorry for all that shit, and sorry you are still discriminated against but hey, it's getting better...Now get your shit together!!!" That attitude is not going to fly and as a result, this is what we get.

The thing is, it's way more than "hey, it's getting better."

It's not perfectly equal, and discrimination certainly exists.

But there is also affirmative action and a lot of other policies in place that have made the playing field resemble something somewhat level.

No, it's not perfect.

But it's not one foot in the 21st century and the other foot in 1932, either.

Things began to improve on an appreciable level by the 80s, and by the 90s, there was really little excuse not to have a job.

Maybe they weren't all CEOs, but hey, neither am I.

It continues to get better, and here in 2013, the biggest obstacle black people have to getting jobs is Obama.

There's a way to go still, but we are certainly at a point where the Black community needs to shift their focus from blame to introspection on a societal / community level.

And above all, just like i tell my own kids, they have to be honest with themselves.

And that's not always easy, for any of us.

But it is necessary, and it is productive, and it enables progress.

[Disco Duck]

Disco is a "she" not a "he".

I get what you are saying TypeO but I don't think you get what Disco means. I think what he is trying to say is this:

[Sagittarius Rising]

Disco is a "she" not a "he".

Woops, pardon me...I was not aware.

[Sagittarius Rising]

The thing is, it's way more than "hey, it's getting better."

It's not perfectly equal, and discrimination certainly exists.

But there is also affirmative action and a lot of other policies in place that have made the playing field resemble something somewhat level.

No, it's not perfect.

But it's not one foot in the 21st century and the other foot in 1932, either.

Things began to improve on an appreciable level by the 80s, and by the 90s, there was really little excuse not to have a job.

Maybe they weren't all CEOs, but hey, neither am I.

It continues to get better, and here in 2013, the biggest obstacle black people have to getting jobs is Obama.

There's a way to go still, but we are certainly at a point where the Black community needs to shift their focus from blame to introspection on a societal / community level.

And above all, just like i tell my own kids, they have to be honest with themselves.

And that's not always easy, for any of us.

But it is necessary, and it is productive, and it enables progress.

You make many good points as you usually do, however one cannot address the present, much less the future, without first addressing the past. Especially in historical terms the past was very, very recent. Life is not lived in a vacuum.

[Disco Duck]

Is it really that hard to find/pay for rubbers? Seems to me they're given out free in clinics all over the place.

That's a whole other discussion. IMO, everyone should use condoms when they have sex outside of a committed, monogamous relationship. However, getting some men to use condoms is like pulling teeth. It requires assertiveness and a willingness to kick a guy to the curb if he won't comply. You would be surprised at how many ADULT women won't do this. IMO, it's usually because they're too needy and too desperate to hold onto the guy. Thus they tolerate disrespectful and inconsiderate behavior.

Then you have the women who instinctively defer to men even when their inner voice is telling them it's a bad idea. If I were Empress of America, all sex education courses would spend devote some time to teaching kids how to talk honestly and respectfully with their partners about boundaries, contraceptives, etc. They would also discuss what a healthy, mutually respectful, romantic relationship looks and feels like because some people just have no clue.

[mstork]

That's a whole other discussion. IMO, everyone should use condoms when they have sex outside of a committed, monogamous relationship. However, getting some men to use condoms is like pulling teeth. It requires assertiveness and a willingness to kick a guy to the curb if he won't comply. You would be surprised at how many ADULT women won't do this. IMO, it's usually because they're too needy and too desperate to hold onto the guy. Thus they tolerate disrespectful and inconsiderate behavior.

Then you have the women who instinctively defer to men even when their inner voice is telling them it's a bad idea. If I were Empress of America, all sex education courses would spend devote some time to teaching kids how to talk honestly and respectfully with their partners about boundaries, contraceptives, etc. They would also discuss what a healthy, mutually respectful, romantic relationship looks and feels like because some people just have no clue.

So we agree that it's cultural and not "access to birth control" as Sag said?

[redirtuo]

What do you think Robert Plant meant when he sang, "I wanna give you every inch of my love"? I dislike most rap and hiphop, but is it any worse than some of the raunchier entertianment that features white performers?

...umm, yes sometimes it is.

...And your comparison would definitely make Robert Plant frown because he knows as do most women what the lyrics in Whole Lotta Love means between a man and a woman in the heat of passion. In fact, that's the very essence of the song. Whole Lotta Love. Yes, it's about sex.

Which would you rather have a man you were intent on making love to you say to you at that very moment?

"I wanna give you every inch of my love"

~Or~

"Slob on my knob

Like corn on the cob

Check in with me, and do your job

Lay on the bed, and give me head

Don't have to ask, don't have to beg

Juicy is my name

Sex is my game

Let's call the boys, let's run a train"

?

[TypeO]

You make many good points as you usually do, however one cannot address the present, much less the future, without first addressing the past. Especially in historical terms the past was very, very recent. Life is not lived in a vacuum.

But we can't live in a constant state of "it wasn't that long ago", either.

I currently live in Augusta, Georgia, which has a nasty history of racism and racial injustice.

Around 2003 or so, my wife and I were featured in a story in the local paper when they were doing a series on race relations and looking to move forward.

As a result, we were invited to a panel discussion / dinner hosted by the newspaper and attended by local pols, educators, etc., who were known for their involvement in race issues.

In no time at all, they were recalling when the town printed a separate section for the black community, the incidents of segregation, etc.

Many, including myself, did a collective facepalm.

It's a known fact.

It's not a secret, nor has it been for a long, long time.

So constantly referring back to it only mires efforts towards progress.

It's like a massive anchor that many people insist on dragging along as time continues to pass.

It's a lot like the principle behind forgiveness.

When you finally decide to forgive, you drop that 100 pound sack of bitterness and anger you've been hauling around across your shoulders all the time.

Now, please don't mistake this analogy as though I'm suggesting black people forgive everything.

I'm just saying at some point you have to say "We know things were fucked up in the past, but we need to take action NOW to better our community."

We've had all those boxes of files (past injustices) we haul around everywhere we move.

We scan them into digital files (civil rights, affirmative action and other policies that have been enacted) that aren't as physically bulky, but take up a lot of room on our hard drive (memories and experiences).

Let's take all those files, compress them into a zip file and save it on a thumb drive.

You have them so the past is never forgotten, but you've freed up a lot more room to consider and act on progress.

Maybe a little clumsy for an analogy, but the point is valid.

And here's something that many will find hard to believe.

I have been considering for some time now some kind of method for reparations.

There would have to be a cut-off date, anyone born after a particular date would not be eligible.

They would have to be 21 years old minimum.

And there would have to be a set amount, not some percentage based on anything.

Say the amount was $100,000, after taxes, about $60,000.

The Government's CDC website lists 39 million as African-American only.

Maybe 65% of those are over 21, so 39M X .65 = 25.35M would receive this payout.

That would be an outlay of roughly $1.5 Trillion.

Less than what we're spending on Obamacare.

Once you receive it, it would be counted as income, and would obviously make you ineligible for any Unemployment, SNAP or Welfare benefits you may currently be receiving.

And I think there should be a 2-year moratorium on re-eligibility for said benefits.

That would spur unprecedented economic growth, create jobs, and significantly reduce the amount of government assistance spending.

Whether people spent the money on homes, cars or drugs would be completely up to them.

But after that, my only caveat would be simple - now let's leave the past in the past, and let's make the necessary changes to make a better future.

That's what you would get from a TypeO Presidency.

[Rock Historian]

But the point is, what I said earlier and what was in the O'Reilly video wasn't "Hey buddy, your kid is a snot nosed little asshole juvenile delinquent and causes trouble in my neighborhood, keep your kid outta my block...oh, and fuck you too since you raised the little shit stain."

It was simple, honest straight talk that is what's necessary to have the "conversations" on race relations the country needs.

But that simple, honest straight talk goes through the Privileged White Cracker filter that many African-Americans refuse to disable from their operating system, and it ends up sounding like, "Hey buddy, your kid is a snot nosed little asshole juvenile delinquent and causes trouble in my neighborhood, keep your kid outta my block...oh, and fuck you too since you raised the little shit stain" to them.

And that is simply Not. My. Fucking. Fault.

Just like the addict has to suck it up and recognize he's a mess when the intervention kicks in.

I'm not sure you realize the person I am.

My wife is Black.

My 3 kids are Black.

And yes, technically they are mixed, but what I completely and clearly understand is that if they are stopped by police, or filling out a job application, they are fucking Black.

And my wife isn't some bourgie, spoiled BAP, with a taste for white boys, either.

She grew up with a single mother, starting in the projects.

She votes Democratic.

And we had a falling out on election night 2008, because she couldn't understand why I couldn't put politics aside and just be happy a Black man was elected President.

I am one of the most racially-aware white people you could imagine.

When so many white people complain about Black History Month and say stupid shit like, "If there was a White History Month, that would be racist!", I understand that every month for the last 400 fucking years was White History Month.

People used to say to me, "you never told me your wife/girlfriend was Black!", and I would say, "why would I?"

I'm a hell of a lot more understanding of Black culture and the Black Community than the vast majority of White people in this country.

What I'm NOT, is an apologist.

History was a motherfucker.

But wallowing in it isn't going to get these young Black males off the streets, get them an education, and get them careers.

The Black Community has to fix itself.

And all those things O'Reilly said are dead-on, nail-on-the-head, accurate and true.

Bitching about the fact that O'Reilly said it is the same stubborn bullshit that has people screaming Justice For Trayvon.

Black people should be pissed off that it took O'Reilly to finally say something real, instead of more placating, victimized bullshit from most Black "leaders" starting at Obama and going down the line.

Black people should be screaming at Jay-Z and Lil Wayne to stop glorifying the thug life, and cashing in on young black lives to sell fucking records.

THAT would be Justice For Trayvon.

THAT would have more of an impact at preventing the next Trayvon from dying.

Just yesterday, a 20-something black male who, as it turned out, was wanted for murder in the next county, showed up at a probation office here and shot a female probation officer.

He ended up getting shot to death by police.

A local radio talk show host made a comment to the effect of he was glad he was dead.

And then this stupid motherfucker -

wrote the following on the talk show host's Facebook page -

"If i see u in public any were im slap da shyt out u on air bitch ass craccer...i dnt give a fucc bout no police...g.b.i.f.b.i. whoever dey can get it to."

So he was arrested and charged with making threats.

So, big surprise, what do you think practically every single Black person responded with?

You got it.

What a bunch of bullshit that was to arrest him.

The talk show host shouldn't have said that about that guy who was killed.

This is the same bullshit when there's crime and nobody cooperates with Police because snitches get stitches.

This is the same bullshit when a young black male participates in class and gets good grades, he's ridiculed for acting white.

My son is going through that shit right now.

And it's infuriating.

So sorry, I'm not going to sit back and remain quiet when it's QUOTE time to have real discussions about race relations, and all they want to talk about is the past.

I'm not interested in parsing through the individual granules of our nation's history.

I get it.

Right now, it's time to talk about the present and the future.

Again, many white people WANT Black people to become successful, productive members of society.

The people who DON'T want that are the establishment Democratic Party who count on broken black families raised by single mothers dependent on the Government.

THOSE are the votes they can count on come hell or high water.

Should those single mothers get married, create a stable, 2-parent home with a male role model to help raise and teach young black males how to be a man, they would have less and less need for government assistance, and actually start becoming self-sufficient.

And that's the votes the establishment Democratic Party CAN'T count on, because suddenly, they don't NEED all the handouts anymore.

Why do you think immigration is the new hot-button issue?

Because there's a whole new crop of votes they can count on.

Guaranteed votes for the guys who made it legal for them to be here and start getting all this free shit.

This tangent has been identified, so this is a good place to stop.

TypeO, once again your 100% correct...as was Bill O'Reily...or at least, I feel that way. While I don't have nearly the amount if time that you have to collect my thoughts and write a lengthy statement such as many of yours, I feel the EXACT same way. You are not alone in your mindset and feelings on this "touchy" subject. Many people, including some hard working, decent black folks share your pain.