What conspiracy theories do you think are real or are ridiculous?

[Bong-Man]

7 hours ago, slave to zep said:

He wants to buy up land which stops farmers growing food, he wants us to eat insects.... he wants the population decreased.

You're worse than my neighbor, 'the contrail guy'.  Bill Gates doesn't even crack the top 10 of private landowners in the U.S.  The Gates Foundation owns the most farmland, which they've been buying here and in 3rd world countries.  Their goal is to grow food more efficiently and seek alternative means of nutrition where needed.  Your claims are akin to Andrew Carnegie building libraries to stop the spread of literacy.  Wake up!  

[hummingbird69]

1 hour ago, Bong-Man said:

You're worse than my neighbor, 'the contrail guy'.  Bill Gates doesn't even crack the top 10 of private landowners in the U.S.  The Gates Foundation owns the most farmland, which they've been buying here and in 3rd world countries.  Their goal is to grow food more efficiently and seek alternative means of nutrition where needed.  Your claims are akin to Andrew Carnegie building libraries to stop the spread of literacy.  Wake up!  

 Mr. Gates believes in synthetic meat for all RICH nations.  It's not that big a stretch to think he agrees with people like klaus schwab. He thinks the world should be reinvented and reordered in order to control health risks and he would like to see vaccine passports for all people around the globe.

Hmmm, I wonder, did anyone here vote for these people?

https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/02/14/1018296/bill-gates-climate-change-beef-trees-microsoft/

Q: Do you think plant-based and lab-grown meats could be the full solution to the protein problem globally, even in poor nations? Or do you think it’s going to be some fraction because of the things you’re talking about, the cultural love of a hamburger and the way livestock is so central to economies around the world?

A: For Africa and other poor countries, we’ll have to use animal genetics to dramatically raise the amount of beef per emissions for them. Weirdly, the US livestock, because they’re so productive, the emissions per pound of beef are dramatically less than emissions per pound in Africa. And as part of the [Bill and Melinda Gates] Foundation’s work, we’re taking the benefit of the African livestock, which means they can survive in heat, and crossing in the monstrous productivity both on the meat side and the milk side of the elite US beef lines.

So no, I don’t think the poorest 80 countries will be eating synthetic meat. I do think all rich countries should move to 100% synthetic beef. You can and will get used to the taste difference, (whether you like it or not) and the claim is they’re going to make it taste even better over time. Eventually, that green premium is modest enough that you can sort of change the [behavior of] people or use regulation to totally shift the demand.

So for meat in the middle-income-and-above countries, I do think it’s possible. But it’s one of those ones where, wow, you have to track it every year and see, and the politics [are challenging]. There are all these bills that say it’s got to be called, basically, lab garbage to be sold. They don’t want us to use the beef label.

[Bong-Man]

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Mr. Gates believes in synthetic meat for all RICH nations.  It's not that big a stretch to think he agrees with people like klaus schwab. He thinks the world should be reinvented and reordered in order to control health risks and he would like to see vaccine passports for all people around the globe.

Hmmm, I wonder, did anyone here vote for these people?

 

I did, and I don't have any problems with the above.  The world population has doubled in your lifetime.  Obvious changes are necessary.  Bacon is 40% leaner today than when you were a kid.  Trans-fats have mostly been eliminated.  Wheat and corn have been genetically modified to increase productivity.  Advances in artificial soils and fertilizers have done the same.  You can go on and on.  Just because chocolate covered crickets and Cajun spiced grasshoppers aren't in your plans, the rest of the world is going to carry on without you. Eating such things is more natural than a ballpark frank or what Arby's calls 'roast beef'. Also, many countries already require certain immunizations to enter.  That's hardly new.  Embrace and marvel at the changes that surround you, and I hope we both live long enough to drive an electric car while snacking on some Planter's spicy crickets 

I find it humorous when someone cries about the perils of globalization as they're flying around the globe.  Gee...do you think you're hampering or contributing to what you seem to think is a problem?   

[redrum]

Planter's spicy crickets.

😄

Probably taste better than crotch crickets. 

[slave to zep]

3 hours ago, Bong-Man said:

You're worse than my neighbor, 'the contrail guy'.  Bill Gates doesn't even crack the top 10 of private landowners in the U.S.  The Gates Foundation owns the most farmland, which they've been buying here and in 3rd world countries.  Their goal is to grow food more efficiently and seek alternative means of nutrition where needed.  Your claims are akin to Andrew Carnegie building libraries to stop the spread of literacy.  Wake up!  

Ummmmm you're telling  ME to wake up?

So you laugh at Bill Gates owning the land, but the Gates FOUNDATION is ok? 

Holy crap.

AND you want to drive electric cars.....

You do realise what it takes to make those car batteries, right?

Gates funds the WHO but he's no doctor, no scientist, just a rich little boy playing with the world.

 

[cryingbluerain]

I don't trust anyone who collaborated with "Mr. Science" Fauci.

How Bill Gates and Dr Fauci Conspired to Exaggerate the Covid Pandemic for Financial Gain - Brightwork Research & Analysis

[slave to zep]

2 hours ago, cryingbluerain said:

I don't trust anyone who collaborated with "Mr. Science" Fauci.

How Bill Gates and Dr Fauci Conspired to Exaggerate the Covid Pandemic for Financial Gain - Brightwork Research & Analysis

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[jsj]

Can I ask again how Bill Gates implanting a chip into the general public helps him buy more land?

[rm2551]

8 hours ago, jsj said:

Can I ask again how Bill Gates implanting a chip into the general public helps him buy more land?

It doesn't. it's a moronic "theory". Those that subscribe to this are no different to flat earthers. It boggles the mind how anyone capable of rational thought really thinks this is a thing.

[slave to zep]

9 hours ago, jsj said:

Can I ask again how Bill Gates implanting a chip into the general public helps him buy more land?

Not sure what you're asking?

He pushed the vaccines and he's buying up land, but not sure about the chip implanting?

[redrum]

I believe there's a local conspiracy that tracks my truck with a hidden device that knows to change the signal to a red light just before I get to the intersection. 

Redrum......Redrum......Redrum......Redrum.......

[slave to zep]

1 hour ago, redrum said:

I believe there's a local conspiracy that tracks my truck with a hidden device that knows to change the signal to a red light just before I get to the intersection. 

Redrum......Redrum......Redrum......Redrum.......

😅😅😅

[rm2551]

23 hours ago, redrum said:

I believe there's a local conspiracy that tracks my truck with a hidden device that knows to change the signal to a red light just before I get to the intersection. 

Redrum......Redrum......Redrum......Redrum.......

Now THAT is one I have first hand experience with. There are a few nearby sets that it's 1 in 10 you get the green.

[redrum]

4 hours ago, rm2551 said:

Now THAT is one I have first hand experience with. There are a few nearby sets that it's 1 in 10 you get the green.

👍

[slave to zep]

Red Meat Is Not a Health Risk

Analysis by Dr. Joseph MercolaFact Checked

• November 30, 2022Download PDF

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

STORY AT-A-GLANCE

• In an "unprecedented effort," researchers from the University of Washington analyzed decades of research on unprocessed red meat and found weak evidence that it is associated with six common health problems
• Uma Valeti is the cofounder of Memphis Meats, which is now Upside Foods. The company focuses on cultivated meat grown from cells extracted from an animal; the company has not produced a single product but is valued at $1 billion
• Investors in Upside Foods include Bill Gates and some of the largest companies in traditional meat production, who likely hope to be in on the ground floor of the industry that is designed to put them out of business
• While it may seem that the current push for fake food is incredibly shortsighted as it requires large amounts of electricity and uses animal serum to grow the cells, it makes more sense when you consider that it gives the elite greater control over the food supply, and therefore the population

Scientists from the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) published a systematic review of the literature in Nature Medicine¹ in which they found weak evidence of any association between unprocessed red meat and several health conditions, including hemorrhagic and ischemic stroke.²

For decades, red meat has been vilified as being unhealthy, cancer-promoting and artery-clogging, but in 2019, a paper³ from Dalhousie University in Canada demonstrated that if there were health benefits from eating less beef, they were minimal. The New York Times wrote, “The new analyses are among the largest such evaluations ever attempted and may influence future dietary recommendations.”⁴

The researchers concluded that there was “low to very low” evidence that red meat triggered health problems. The publication date was November 19, 2019. Yet, the prerelease triggered a response before the publication date⁵ from organizations like the American Heart Association and the American Cancer Society.

They came out against the paper stating it not only contradicted years of findings, but the data collected from over 4 million participants could “erode public trust in scientific research.” Also interesting is that the researchers did not differentiate between participants who ate CAFO beef or pastured, organically raised beef. Concerns raised around the study include the challenge CAFO production has on climate change and environmental pollution.⁶

It is crucial to note there are viable means of producing beef and poultry using regenerative farming and animal husbandry strategies that are not only humane but also protect the environment from the CO2 emission created by CAFO production and plant-based “meat” products.

 

As I have reported before, a Carbon Footprint Evaluation report⁷ for White Oak Pastures — an organic, grass fed livestock operation — shows that when you include enteric emissions, manure emissions, soil carbon capture, vegetation carbon, miscellaneous farm activities, slaughter and transport, and the total net carbon emissions, this type of beef production has a negative 3.5 kilos of carbon emissions per kilo of fresh meat.

This means an integrated, holistic system of regenerative farming is six times more carbon efficient than the average CAFO.⁸ The same cannot be said for GE soy, which is the basis for plant-based “meat” products. Data show GE soybean and corn farms are a primary source of water⁹ and air pollution.¹⁰

Decades of Data Show No Evidence Red Meat Is a Health Risk

Three years later, in what the Big Think¹¹ calls an “unprecedented effort,” scientists from the University of Washington analyzed decades of research on red meat and used a rating system that ultimately dispelled concerns. In a press release from the university, they summarized the study saying:¹²

“We found weak evidence of association between unprocessed red meat consumption and colorectal cancer, breast cancer, type 2 diabetes and ischemic heart disease. Moreover, we found no evidence of an association between unprocessed red meat and ischemic stroke or hemorrhagic stroke.”

The researchers used statistical analysis to evaluate relationships between six health outcomes and the consumption of unprocessed red meat. The researchers also wrote that there is weak evidence that unprocessed red meat is associated with an increased risk of disease and mortality.¹³

The researchers also used a burden of proof risk function statistical analysis to evaluate evidence of risk between pairs of factors. The function translates to a star rating system that was developed by IHME¹⁴ using over 30 years of data quantifying risk factors:

• One-star rating indicate that there may be no true association between the behavior or condition and the health outcome.
• Two stars indicate a zero to 15% change in the likelihood of a health outcome.
• Three stars indicate at least a 15 to 50% change.
• Four stars indicate at least a 50 to 85% change.
• Five stars indicate a more than 85% change.

Based on these star rating categories, the researchers believe that unprocessed red meat paired against colorectal cancer, breast cancer, Type 2 diabetes and ischemic heart disease are two-star pairs.¹⁵ When unprocessed red meat was paired against ischemic and hemorrhagic stroke, the analysis showed they were one-star pairs.

In other words, based on their data analysis, there was no true association between eating red meat and ischemic or hemorrhagic stroke and the likelihood of the other four health conditions being associated with eating unprocessed red meat was 15% or less. In a commentary about the study, Dr. Steven Novella, a Yale neurologist, theorized the risk of a high meat diet may lie in not eating enough vegetables. He wrote:¹⁶

“The evidence for a direct vascular or health risk from eating meat regularly is very low, to the point that there is probably no risk. There is, however, more evidence for a health risk from eating too few vegetables.”

 

‘No Kill’ Meat Unethical and Not Slaughter-Free

Uma Valeti¹⁷ is a cardiologist and the cofounder of Upside Foods, which cultivates meat "directly from animal cells to satisfy our cravings, our conscience, and our heart."¹⁸ Cultivated meat is grown from cells extracted from an animal through a needle biopsy.

These cells are then fed nutrients so they can grow into slabs of meat.¹⁹ After biologists, engineers, and biochemists spent years experimenting with the concept, they are now waiting for approval from the Food and Drug Administration to start selling these cultivated meat products to consumers.

NPR reporter Allison Aubrey toured Upside Foods’ 70,000-square-foot facility and signed a waiver before tasting a piece of chicken, a product that is not legal to sell yet in the U.S. She wrote:²⁰

“My first reaction: "It's delicious." (Isn't everything in wine-butter sauce?) And the texture was chewy, closely replicating the texture of chicken breast (minus bones, and tough bits or gristle.) "It tastes like chicken," I said, to which Valeti quickly replied, "It is chicken!"”

However, while the product may resemble chicken meat and the industry boasts that it is produced humanely, cultivating meat has relied on fetal bovine serum (FBS) as a growth medium. This serum is a blend of growth-inducing proteins usually made from the blood of animals.²¹

But it isn't just any blood. FBS is harvested from the hearts of unborn calves when pregnant cows are taken to slaughter. A paper published in 2002 describes it as “commonly harvested by means of a cardiac puncture without any form of anesthesia. Fetuses are probably exposed to pain and/or discomfort so the current practice of fetal blood harvesting is inhumane.”²²

A 2017 paper²³ described the challenges of scaling the growth of cultivated meat using FBS and discussed the growth medium under investigation:

“Most recently, releasates of activated human donor thrombocytes (human platelet lysates) have been shown to be one of the most promising serum alternatives when chemically defined media are not yet an option.

Additionally, new developments in cell-based assay techniques, advanced organ-on-chip and microphysiological systems are covered in this report. Chemically-defined serum-free media are shown to be the ultimate goal for the majority of culture systems.”

In other words, the industry recognized the unsustainability of using serum from calves in an industry that claims to produce meat without slaughter and moved to human donor thrombocytes with the goal of creating a nonbiological, serum-free medium in the lab. At the close of 2021, Upside Foods announced they had achieved an animal component-free cell feed for the cultivated meat industry.²⁴

They achieved this with the help of biotech and pharmaceutical scientists. Upside Foods is not the only cultivated meat manufacturer waiting for FDA approval. SCiFi Foods,²⁵ based in San Leandro, California, also uses FBS, but they claim it is only used in research and development and not in the production of their commercial products.

SCiFi burgers are not just beef cells but are also combined with plant-based ingredients. Good Meat is a third alternative, which is already delivering cultured meat in Singapore.²⁶

Cultured Meat Costly to Produce and Raises CO2 Emissions

On another note, the production of cultured meat raises CO2 emissions in the environment as large amounts of electricity are required to maintain the stainless-steel tanks in which the meat cells are grown.

Additionally, it is costly to produce these chicken and beef planks. Bruce Friedrich of the Good Food Institute tracks investment trends and is a lobbyist. He spoke to NPR,²⁷ saying that until the price becomes competitive, it's likely that the products will have only a niche market.

The evidence is clear. There is a push to control the food supply and ensure that many people are unable to access real food. Cultured meat products have moved from harvesting cells from animals and using inhumanely acquired FBS as a growth medium to creating a “chemically-defined, serum-free” growth medium.

How long will it be before scientists get rid of the animals altogether and create meat cells in the lab? After all, scientists are also working on meat grown from human cells harvested from the inside of your cheek.²⁸ How much further will they push these sinister plans?

More Potential Problems With Cultured Meat

Cultured meat is different from the ultraprocessed synthetic plant-based beef products produced by Beyond Meat, Impossible Foods and other companies. While researchers have tracked the many health dangers of ultraprocessed foods, the short-term and long-term problems associated with cultured meat have yet to be analyzed.

When you consider how quickly mRNA shots were brought to market and distributed to the population with little concern about the long-term health effects, it should come as no surprise that the industry and the FDA don't appear to be concerned about the long-term effects of eating meat products grown in large vats bathed in chemically defined growth medium.

This might be because experts estimate the industry will be worth trillions of dollars. Upside Foods was formally called Memphis Meat.²⁹ Along the way Valeti changed the name and won over investors including Bill Gates. The company, which has not produced a single product, is now valued at more than $1 billion.

Upside Foods has attracted other investors like Tyson and Cargill, which are some of the largest companies in traditional meat production, that likely hope to be on the ground floor of an industry designed to put them out of business.

Industrializing the global food system with fake foods and fake meat will ultimately threaten mankind's survival. Elitists are pushing for fake foods in the name of sustainability and going green, while it is clear that it is a key driver in a destructive environmental cycle.

While it may seem that the current push for fake food is incredibly shortsighted, it makes more sense when you consider that it gives the elite greater control over the food supply, and therefore the population. In 2021, the Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy’s Food Compass³⁰ was unveiled and called “a new tool to help consumers, food companies, restaurants, and cafeterias choose and produce healthier foods and officials to make sound public nutrition policy.”³¹

However, it's apparent that the ranking tool has some serious problems. Case in point: Frosted Mini Wheats scores three times higher than ground beef (87 out of 100, compared to 26), as illustrated in a graph posted on Twitter by independent journalist Nina Teicholz.³² It is unimaginable that ultraprocessed food would score higher than whole food.

Yet, it offers an excuse for people to eat poorly and rely on high-cost pharmaceutical drugs for their health. Evidence³³ continues to demonstrate that people eating the highest amount of ultraprocessed foods are likely to die sooner of cardiovascular disease, ischemic heart disease and have a higher rate of all-cause mortality.

Once living animals are eliminated and replaced with patented alternatives private companies will effectively control the food supply in its entirety, and they will be the ones profiting from it. By controlling the food supply, private corporations can ultimately control countries and entire populations. If we allow this trend to continue, biotech companies will eventually push farmers and ranchers out of the equation.

Looking down the road, it's easy to see that patented foods threaten food security — they don't strengthen it. When you shop for meat, look for a local organic farmer or Demeter (biodynamic) and American Grassfed Association (AGA) certified meats. These accreditations designate foods produced under high-quality, sustainable and environmentally sound practices.

             

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[cryingbluerain]

What are they trying to hide?

Biden releases most JFK assassination records (nbcnews.com)

Biden releases most JFK assassination records — but withholds thousands
All the documents should be made public under a 1992 law, but the administration is declining to follow its letter for the second year in a row.

President Joe Biden’s administration released more than 13,000 records of President John F. Kennedy's assassination Thursday, but it fell short of fully complying with the spirit of a 30-year-old law demanding transparency by now.

Edited December 16, 2022 by cryingbluerain

[rm2551]

On 12/17/2022 at 2:20 AM, cryingbluerain said:

What are they trying to hide?

Biden releases most JFK assassination records (nbcnews.com)

Biden releases most JFK assassination records — but withholds thousands
All the documents should be made public under a 1992 law, but the administration is declining to follow its letter for the second year in a row.

President Joe Biden’s administration released more than 13,000 records of President John F. Kennedy's assassination Thursday, but it fell short of fully complying with the spirit of a 30-year-old law demanding transparency by now.

They are hiding something. It might not even be that shocking, but as with UFO/alien encounters and the Governments knowledge of such things, the biggest problem they have now is being caught in such massive lies and cover ups.

[MortSahlFan]

I do believe the CIA killed JFK and the government has admitted enough and released enough public information to make me believe.

Don't watch oliver stone. He ruined The Doors (1990) and JFK (1991) by making ridiculous claims (CIA admitted they intentionally put out the most ludicrous conspiracies to The Church Committee) and distorting the truth knowing the power of Hollywood. I've traveled all over the world, staying in backpacking hostels and the Couchsurfing community, and music and movies is always a topic. Yet, as educated as many are, they fall for the Hollywood bullshit, and the powers know the strong first impression it puts, especially video, which appeals to the most senses.

People refer to that piece of shit movie as the truth, but when I ask "How do you know" or "Where did you hear THAT from?" they can't remember, but it's tattooed in their head. BUT, if you show them a great 25-minute interview of clairvoyance and intelligence (and busting the myth), most won't touch it. I would be happy to show you all the statistics, and how most people quit by the 30-second mark.. Instant gratification.

Jim Morrison and Mort Sahl Interviewed by Tony Thomas (Music, etc etc)

 

And this is the real Jim Garrison, not Kevin Costner.. Garrison was a colorful, witty, brave guy, while Costner was boring white bread, and nothing like the real guy.